Bandersnatch

1 minute ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

which is the best insurance to go with

First year is free 

1 hour ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

Then it appeared, BYD Seal Premium with a 650 km ( realistically 550 ? ) range , when I saw it i knew it was the car for me, can’t fault it on any level, beautiful design and a great price.

Just waiting now on delivery, quoted around 40 days.

Didn't know you'd ordered a Seal Premium - did I miss the announcement? or was that it?

Congratulations. What did you think of the test drive? What colour did you order?

1 hour ago, VincentRJ said:

I am not convinced that reducing CO2 emission will have any net benefit for the environment. CO2 is the 'gas of life' and the increased quantities in the atmosphere, due to human emissions, have helped to green the planet and increase crop production. In general, warmer climates are better than colder climates, for humanity to flourish, provided there is a sufficient supply of water.

Without the CO2 driven greenhouse effect this planet would be a lifeless ball of ice.

"warmer climates are better than colder climates"

but you can have too much of a good thing 40 ° C in the UK like we had this year is a challenge with houses designed temperate conditions. What will Thailand be like when 50 ° C is the norm?

US sets new record for billion-dollar climate disasters in single year

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/sep/11/us-record-billion-dollar-climate-disasters

Just now, Henryford said:

Bandersnatch - those photos of cars charging on the street are a joke. In London those cables would be stolen the first night.

Can't talk for all EVs but for mine the charging port locks during charging. 

17 hours ago, Photoguy21 said:

Also has anyone considered the following:

2. The batteries require rare earth materials for their production. Maybe no one has heard but they are called "rare" for a reason.

Gave up waiting for you to support this statement.

They were used in the nickel-metal hydride batteries used by early hybrids, but rare earths are not used in lithium ion batteries.

'rare-earth' is a misnomer because they are not actually scarce, although historically it took a long time to isolate these elements.

rare-earth elements are technically relatively plentiful in the entire Earth's crust (cerium being the 25th-most-abundant element at 68 parts per million, more abundant than copper

Ce and La are important as catalysts, and are used for petroleum refining and as diesel additives

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rare-earth_element

The moral here is to check what you write before you write it or get called out on it. 

13 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Impressive numbers. What kind of car is it? 

BYD Seal Premium (LR RWD)

5 minutes ago, Melpomene said:

 

Yeah they haven't really taken off in the way I thought they would've done to be honest.  I think the price is ok, particularly after the recent cuts, although maybe I'm just comparing them to the UK as they're about 15% cheaper.

 

I'm more concerned about the lack of service centres, I suppose you'd be gambling on them opening more sites and getting more trained technicians in over the next year or two.  There's a number of tales on the Thai forums of long queues to get issues looked at.  I'm also a bit wary of range compared to the Seal.  I want the LFP battery, so the only M3 option is the RWD which is just 513kms.  So you're paying 150-200k more depending on colour for a slower car with less range.  Then if you're looking at the MY it's only 455kms which I think really is too low.

I ordered the Seal Premium LR RWD. Like you I wanted LFP but I also wanted V2L, which I was hoping would appear in the Highland Model 3. When it didn’t my mind was made up. 
 

My wife thinks the lack of indicator stalks and drive selector on the screen is a dealbreaker.  

1 hour ago, EdrigoSalvadore said:

Check how the electricity in Thailand is produced... From gas and coal (85% in 2022). Pointless to have electric vehicles as long as that's the case.

You do realize that ICE vehicles are responsible for much of the pollution in our cities. 
 

Bangkok was ranked as the world’s 10th-most polluted city on Friday, according to IQAir, a Swiss-based air quality technology company, the recent spike in pollution, even before the peak of the burning season.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-02-09/thailand-targets-30-electric-car-production-to-tackle-pollution

7 hours ago, Melpomene said:

I don't think I've seen anyone on this discussion who owns one in Thailand, but if there is it would be good to get some first hand views of living with one in Thailand.

I for one was very excited when Tesla announced they were going to be selling EVs in Thailand. I was shocked at the price they chose to sell them at  - nearly 40% more than in other RHD markets like Australia. Tesla has been cutting prices around the world in the run up the the Highland Model 3 launch, but not in Thailand. In 12 months they didn't cut prices once and then only days after the dramatic sales figures for the BYD Seal.

As I have posted above. Tesla Charging is available in Korat, Pattaya and BKK. They have been put to shame by MG and BYD that have rolled out showrooms each with DC and AC charging.

The sales figures speak for themselves:

On 10/21/2023 at 9:05 PM, Pib said:

 

55 minutes ago, EdrigoSalvadore said:

So you can use your car for an hour once every month. Is that your point? Should I be impressed?

You haven't  bothered to read any other posts in this thread, just dropped in to deposit your pearls of wisdom 💩

3 minutes ago, EdrigoSalvadore said:

Check how the electricity in Thailand is produced... From gas and coal. Pointless to have electric vehicles as long as that's the case.

You didn't see my profile picture did you

1 hour ago, sidneybear said:

 

You skirted around answering my question, which was how many kWh do your solar panels produce per day, in the real rather than the theoretical world? 

every question you ask further demonstrates your ignorance of solar. Go back and look at the graph I posted previously and come back when you understand the meaning of the term curtailment.

1 hour ago, sidneybear said:

Fundamental laws of physics and thermodynamics are routinely ignored by green zealots, so please be honest. 

You have demonstrated that you can’t manage simple arithmetic. 

 

You intentionally missed the part about the laws of physics, universal facts that EV and other green zealots ignore. So how far do your puny solar panels power your EV for then? They max ot at 2.5 kW in the midday sun.

 You asked how many m2 of solar I had not understanding that panels have different Wattage.

I have 20kW of solar so can produce a maximum of 20kWh per hour. The max range per KWh is 8km - you work it out you need the practice 

“The Laws of Physics” 

“Universal Facts”

😂

2 minutes ago, Photoguy21 said:

The Lithium batteries they use

waiting for the cathode chemical formula that has one of the rare earth elements I listed above 

chop chop

21 minutes ago, Photoguy21 said:

2. The batteries require rare earth materials for their production. Maybe no one has heard but they are called "rare" for a reason.

Can you please post which Cathode Battery chemistries require Rare Earth Elements?

To get you started this is mine FeLiO4P Lithium iron phosphate.

17 minutes ago, Photoguy21 said:

Also has anyone considered the following:

1. Many people do not live in houses where a charger can be installed so how are they going to charge an EV?

Believe it or not these problems are being solved.

some pictures for you

11 minutes ago, Photoguy21 said:

How exactly is the required electricity going to be provided?

Currently Crypto mining uses more energy than EV charging which is mostly done at night at times of low demand or like me from solar in the middle of the day.
 

My EV has bi-directional charging so I could feed back to the grid at times of peak demand, when Thailand allows it.

42 minutes ago, retarius said:

You just killed your own argument with data. There were 500,000 odd sales from Jan to September. There are less than 5,000 chargers of all types....per your data ie less than 1 charger for 1000 vehicles. Not nearly enough.

500,942 vehicles sold of which 10.05% EVs = 50,000 EVs = 1 charger for every 10 EVs  - not very good at sums at school?  🙄

53 minutes ago, retarius said:

And soon like the UK you will need a separate electric meter for home charging (at higher tariff) with restricted hours.

I think you meant for home charging (at Lower tariff) with restricted hours

UK :

Currently in Thailand:

58 minutes ago, retarius said:

I will not buy one until the range problem is fixed

You can drive more than 650km without stopping for a pee? So you must have a urinary catheter bag.

1 hour ago, retarius said:

I will not buy one

Finally we agree on something EVs are clearly not for you. Stick with your old diesel it will probably outlast you.