Bandersnatch

57 minutes ago, TorquayFan said:

there is no doubt that EV contributed to this unprecented conflagration. Shocking !

7 hours ago, TorquayFan said:

the Fire Service report which I find inconclusive

Make your mind up! 

53 minutes ago, TorquayFan said:

A slightly dodgy video IMO

You dismissed a report from Bedfordshire Fire and Rescue Service’s fire investigation team, but offer instead "A slightly dodgy video IMO" ????

52 minutes ago, retarius said:

Very few things written in the press in general are unequivocally true, but this is.

????????????

Thanks, I really enjoyed that - please keep them coming 

2 minutes ago, TorquayFan said:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/net-zero/burning-electric-cars-dunked-baths-water-stop-fires-spread/

 

That's it ! ATB

The ToryGraph the number one source of balanced information about EVs and Green Energy

3 minutes ago, TorquayFan said:

which I find inconclusive

If you think the cause is inconclusive why did you post about the fire into an EV discussion?

27 minutes ago, sirineou said:

No I Meant Battery  Absurd Vehicles (BAV) Get your head in the game will you? 

ultracrepidarian and bad-mannered congratulations

10 minutes ago, TorquayFan said:

Footnote : https://uk.yahoo.com/news/1-400-vehicles-burned-luton-143433280.html

@TorquayFan not sure why you are posting a link to a fire started by a diesel car

Bedfordshire Fire and Rescue press release.

https://www.bedsfire.gov.uk/news/london-luton-airport-car-park-fire

12 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

That map is also out of date and it doesn't show the hydrogen fueling station  Bang Lamung District, Chonburi Province, Thailand

Because it’s not public  - it is a TEST facility

H2 is being pushed hard by the fossil fuel industry and their lobbyists.

As at the end of 2021 47% was made from natural gas, 27% from Coal, 22% from oil and only 4% from electrolysis because it so expensive.

https://www.irena.org/Energy-Transition/Technology/Hydrogen#:~:text=As at the end of,around 4% comes from electrolysis.

So basically H2 is a fossil fuel.

H2 is also being pushed  by Japanese Legacy automakers who are late to the EV party and are trying to muddy the debate around Green Energy.

Even using Grey and Brown H2 it is still not economic for passenger vehicles. If it was, it would have happened by now.

26 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

The project involves testing the Toyota Mirai FCEV

Don’t worry, it’s just a test.

24 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

Problem with providing images without links shows that map is dated 2015

Source Netinform.net 2015

https://issuu.com/asmpub/docs/hydrogen_economy_web/s/16368153

 

Don’t worry the map hasn’t changed much since 2015.

The link to the live map wouldn’t load on my phone but here it is now

https://www.h2stations.org/stations-map/?lat=24.310177&lng=120.756532&zoom=4

And a screen shot 

1 hour ago, sirineou said:

you cant take your solar system with you

Yes you can but not sure why you would want to as solar increases the value of the house: 2 identical houses one with a ฿5,000 a month electricity bill the other with ฿500 which would you buy?

1 hour ago, sirineou said:

many countries in the world do not have the electric infustracture to support wide use and charging of EV's. The grid just cant handle it,

I have already answered this in my reply to the OP please see above.

1 hour ago, sirineou said:

investments are being made by every major countries around the world, and it is not because they don't know what to do with their money

Federal funding isn’t going to help us here in Thailand. I don’t see any investment here in H2 for passenger vehicles. 
 

10 minutes ago, In the jungle said:

Did you ever wonder why race cars are always built to the minimum allowable weight?

No

25 minutes ago, BKKBike09 said:

I've also got a BYD Atto. Handles like a boat on the stock rubber / suspension

Next time you’re driving by your local BYD dealer, take the BYD Seal for a test drive. It has very impressive handling and is shod in 19inch 235/45-profile Continental SportContact rubber.

The 3.8sec 0-100kph AWD version has semi adaptive suspension and Intelligent Torque Adaption Control.

1 hour ago, sirineou said:

I foresee a Hydrogen powered EV, in everyone's life.

H2 is just not economic to produce in a sustainable way. When I make power from my solar system to put in my electric car there is some small efficiency loss due to the inversion process, but over 90% of the energy ends up in my car. 
 
With current electrolyzers, green hydrogen's efficiency is around 30%, which means 70% of the renewable energy put into producing green hydrogen is lost across the full cycle of production and use.

Good luck with Hydrogen in Thailand. Where are you going to buy your Hydrogen car  - none for sale here. Toyota keeps making promises about it's Mirai but you can't buy it here. Then where will you fill it up? Thailand has no public H2 filling stations.

25 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

So convince me EV owners are not a new religion.

The problem here should be obvious in this discussion.
 

The OP doesn’t own an EV and clearly from the amount of fact checking I had to do on his post, knows very little about them. Yet he feels the need to spread the gospel of “Anti-EV”

I frankly think it’s pretty sad 

5 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

What I was questioning is the percentage of people who take the next step from an EV to fueling said EV from solar.

Your electricity is not quite free, there is the sunk cost of capital equipment to be recovered first. IIRC, in my case it was about 2.5 years.

In this discussion I have seen 3 people who have both solar and an EV, there maybe be more.

I already said I have not seen a Thai study so can’t give you an exact % 

Most people get solar to power their house first, but in my graph above it should quite clear that the excess solar is “free power” and in my case it is curtailed. 

25 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Another example of begging the question, with the statement: " Many EV owners here in Thailand have solar".

If you can post actual figures from an independent, authoritative source, it's an improvement.

Based on comments in the EVs in Thailand discussion, many start with solar then get an EV. I am also a member of number of Thai EV groups and hear similar comments.
 

I am not aware of any studies on the subject here in Thailand, but once people get solar and realise the massive surplus of energy that is generated in the middle of the day it really is a only common sense to consider an EV you can drive for free.

Here is a graph of power generation from one of my inverters.