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C40 Recharge does have a more expensive twin motor 4 wheel drive version

https://www.volvocars.com/en-TH/ Volvo Thailand has had some substantial price cuts down to Tesla money: June 2023: March 2023 at the BKK Motor Show:

the temporary red plate tends to be a bit smaller compared to the white plate with all the dealer marketing on the plate holder.

I am looking at a similar price range and agree that Teslas don’t seem like luxury cars for the money, but maybe the Project Highland model 3 and Project Juniper model Y may be improved in that department. I was hoping that the new BMW iX1 would be reasonably priced, but having seen the price of the PHEV version, I don’t hold out much hope for the full electric version. Fortunately my current car is only 2 years old so I can hold onto it for a while longer while I keep looking. Anybody unsure what NEDC stands for, it’s Not Even Damn Close on that 14kWh battery.

@pub2022 next time you are sitting in the pub why don't you read the original 50 page report rather that a single newspaper headline https://www.volvocars.com/images/v/-/media/market-assets/intl/applications/dotcom/pdf/c40/volvo-c40-recharge-lca-report.pdf

Sorry to hear @Rimmer we have had similar problems on the family farm land

I had the same reaction - I think they were pissed off that the Ioniq 5 was getting all the attention and not their fossil vans that had nobody looking at them. I asked if the vans were electric ???? Then said "MG Maxus 9" to my wife and left to join the crown over at the MG stand.

Agreed Volvo EX30 an impressive car and is on my list pending the price here. - BYD Denza N7: The only Denza I saw at the BKK motor show was the D9 so no word yet but can't rule it out - BYD Sea Lion - again not at the BKK show and it only debuted in China in April, so might be a while - BYD Song L Concept revealed in April - will be a while - Hyundai Ioniq 5 - Hyundai Ioniq 6 Hyundai brought an IONIQ 5 to the BKK show but said you couldn’t buy it in Thailand, so no chance of the 6 either anytime soon.

Thanks for posting Andrew. 100% Electric cars representing 12.28% of new registrations in Thailand is something to be celebrated Some figures from Europe for comparison:

Tesla is slashing prices around the world - although not yet in Thailand - to shift old stock before revealing new models: Tesla Model 3 upgrade code named “Project Highland” Soon to be followed by “Project Juniper” upgrade to the model Y.

There is quite an active solar group here in the Alt. Energy Forum. I purchase the panels locally and imported the batteries and inverters from China. I then employed a Thai team to install My Main Components 20,000 Watts of PV @ ฿9/W 9kWh LiFePO4 Batteries ฿68,000 x 4 Inverters ฿36,000 x 3 The cheapest way is obviously to do it all yourself: https://aseannow.com/topic/1288002-home-solar-a-diy-approach/

Thanks for the heads up on the EX30. The video wasn’t too fact filled so I went looking for more info. The good news for Thailand buyers is that the The EX30 will be produced at Geely‘s Zhangjiakou plant in China and not in Sweden so no import duties. https://www.volvocars.com/th-th/cars/ex30-electric/

Yes my solar panels aren’t free but I installed them to power my house. In the middle of the day I have excess power and so that gets dumped in my EV. My payback is 6 years A PEA bill of 4-5k a month is definitely worth considering solar for.

Elliot Richards who is often featured on the fully charged show also has his own channel "China Driver" and just released a video on EVs in Thailand

99% of my journeys are within my own province and are powered for free from my home home solar. Recharging at home takes no time. I am 99% immune to fuel price rises and fuel shortages. My EV travels further in stop go traffic as it recharges itself from regenerative breaking. I have traffic jam assist which means that I don’t have to use the break or accelerator in slow moving traffic as the car follows the car ahead on it’s own - far less stressful and far less tiring. My EV has far better acceleration and torque than the equivalent ICE car, quieter and smoother to drive, doesn’t pollute my local environment. Cheaper to Tax EVs are cheaper and easier to service and have longer warranties than ICE cars I conclude that EVs have many points

I was hoping it was going to be a bit cheaper than the Tesla Model 3

Unfortunately, Toyota has announced the bZ3 will be a China-only model

Toyota actually make a very good PHEV, I’m not sure why it’s not available in Thailand as I’m sure it would sell well.

The all electric Toyota bZ4X is now showing on the Toyota Thailand website at ฿1.8m+ It has a rocky start with some unfortunate headlines: Good YouTube reviews are actually hard to find as most are “First Look” reviews from about a year ago where the reviewer has only a short time with the car under controlled conditions with Toyota press cars. Two channels that have more recent in depth reviews: Here is one of the “First Look” reviews from a year ago so you can see the car in more detail, but they have to take the Toyota stats as given.

BMW diesel parked in the only free EV charger at Robinson’s today. There was a free slot without charger next to it, but would have meant laying the cable across the BMW, which I was keen on doing, my wife was less keen. ????

This just came up on my Tesla Line Feed. Not sure what to make of it. maybe it was a suggestion from Elon’s new friend Ron DeSantis

My 9kWh LFP batteries with 6,000 cycle life cost me ฿68k. For me having power when all around are in darkness is worth it. Solar installations in Thailand cost a fraction of what they cost "back home" My solar system powers my house electric car and electric motorbike payback is 6 years.

Please keep us posted - would be interested to hear how the batteries standup to life in Thailand.

I think that they are manufactured in a free port designed for companies wanting to manufacture for export. Once the batteries enter Thailand they are treated as being imported and are subject to import duties!

@Muhendis I was interested in RedFlow's Zinc Bromine Batteries particularly when I heard that they were manufactured here in Thailand. So back in 2018 I contacted the reseller ([email protected]) and they quoted me US$16,000/AUS$24,000 for a 10kWh ZBM2 which at the time was twice as much as you could buy the same battery after it had been shipped from Thailand to Australia!