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GWM was at Robinson Surin today. Gave me another chance to sit in the Havel H6. It is a really nice car but unfortunately only a Hybrid. I asked the girl when she was expecting the PHEV version and found out that apparently “Plug In” is better understood than PHEV. It is coming next year.

MG Thailand (SIAC Motor-CP Co. LTD) has been manufacturing Cars in Thailand including EVs at it's 3 factories at Hemaraj Eastern Seaboard Industrial Estate for the past 8 years. In October 2020 it reached a total of 100,000 MG vehicles produced in Thailand.

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Tesla has proved that installing DC rapid charger infrastructure is as important as the car itself. Charging a Tesla in Europe and the US is definitely the best experience for any EV. I will probably be buying a new EV in the next couple of years and MGs investment in DC Super Chargers at their many dealers is a real incentive to stick with MG. I have also had a faultless and enjoyable experience with the car and great service from the dealer.

Some thoughts about EV Charging in Thailand: Home Charging: Currently MG and GWM are providing free wall chargers and installation. The chargers are 7kW AC chargers so 1 hour would add 7kWh to the car or about 40km of range Most cars also come with a mobile charger that can be plugged into any wall socket and are about 2.6kW I charge from my home solar system, if you you want to charge from the grid, overnight Time Of Use rate is cheaper at about ฿0.439 per km Destination Chargers: I live in Surin which has EA anywhere chargers at Robinson. If I drive to Robinson Buriram and plug in for about an hour using the 7kW ac charger I will be back to 100% state of charge DC Rapid Chargers: Most chargers in Thailand are located in big cities or shopping centers and long distance routes tend to bypass the cities. In a recent trip from Surin to Pattaya I passed several MG showrooms. An MG EV would only need one 30 minute DC rapid charge to make the journey. Last year MG installed 108 EV Charging Stations in MG showrooms and service centres, 67 of which are ready to provide services. Charging fees are 6.5 baht per kilowatt-hour during the off-peak hours and 7.5 baht per kilowatt-hour during peak hours. The company is ready to move on to the second phase by installing 500 more MG Super Charge installations across the country by the end of this year with an investment budget of over 500 million baht.

Long waitlists for EVs in Thailand. Comments online are saying that Great Wall's Ora Good Cat orders may not be filled until next year. I saw MG with a display at my local mall today and so asked them about deliveries for the MG ZS EV and MG EP and was told that there was a six month wait. They did have stock of the MG HS PHEV however.

Chinese EV startup Neta makes Thailand first stop for overseas expansion. Neta Automobile has signed a strategic cooperation framework agreement with Thailand's PTT Public Company Limited to jointly develop the local market. Neta will work with PTT to build a smart car ecosystem to provide high-quality smart EVs to Thailand and ASEAN. A right-hand-drive version of the Neta V will be the first available in Thailand. The Neta V is priced in China from ฿311,000 to ฿400,000 https://cnevpost.com/2021/11/10/chinese-ev-startup-neta-makes-thailand-first-stop-for-overseas-expansion/ Video in Thai from last month's Bangkok Auto Show:

Toyota set to sign MoU for Thai EV subsidy package Toyota Motor Thailand will sign a memorandum of understanding (MoU) with the Excise Department on Friday to make its future electric vehicles eligible for the government’s price subsidy. So far, Great Wall Motor (GWM) Manufacturing Ltd and MG Sales Thailand Ltd have signed MoUs with the Excise Department for their EVs to be eligible for excise tax reduction and subsidy of Bt70,000 to Bt150,000. https://www.nationthailand.com/specials/40015033

There are EV Pickup Trucks coming, but none yet in Thailand https://www.parkers.co.uk/vans-pickups/best/electric-pickups/ The MAZDA MX-30 is electric but not for sale in Thailand I have single phase on a 15(45)A meter and the company that MG chose to install my wall box said I needed to upgrade to 30A as that is a requirement to have a 7Kw home charger installed. Another option acceptable to them was a second 15(45)A meter supplying the wall box directly. Many EV owners have this meter on time of use rate for cheaper charging of an EV overnight - 09.30 PM to 08.00 AM. I now charge my EV at home from my solar system, but I did talk to PEA about it and they said the installation of the second 15(45)A meter for EV use was free. I had a consumer unit/Fuse box for outdoor electrics with a couple of spare slots. The Wall Box installer installed a new breaker box next to the wall box and this was included in the free MG wall box install.

The MG comes with 2 chargers: 1) Wall box - fixed to the wall 2) Mobile charger known as the “Granny Charger” because it’s slow. It has a type 2 AC connector on one end to plug into the car and the other end is a plug. (Unplug the fridge and plug in the granny charger) What the MG dealer told you about the granny charger is not correct, unlike me he has probably never used one and does know that it has 2.3kW charging capacity. Wall Box: Granny charger:

Thailand to only allow BEV sales from 2035 The Thai government will only allow purely electric vehicles to be sold from 2035 onwards. Along the way to this goal, the aim is also for electric vehicles to account for 50 per cent – and not 30 per cent as previously planned – of all new car registrations by the end of this decade.

I quoted TOU where the sliding scale does not apply

Not including the new Government EV discounts here is a good list of EVs available in Thailand some of which are not supported by local dealers.

Not true. The supplied "Granny Charger" is rated at 2.3kW and supplied wall box is 7kW 24hours x 2.3kW = 55.2kWh and the battery capacity of the EP is 50kWh

Interesting that you mention about long wait times. I have seen on some FB groups requests for anyone selling a secondhand PHEV or EV. Seems that the rising price of Gasohol in Thailand has got more people considering EVs I looked on one2car.com for EVs under ฿1,000,000 and found only 4

Reminder that this is a discussion about EVs in Thailand. For those more interested in EV Bashing - please move along to the Ice v EV Debate Thread

BYD Dolphin, a 100% electric car launches in Thailand this year BYD's investment from China and 4 Thai capital groups totaling 20 billion baht, divided into 2 main parts. Automobile factory, about 17.3 billion baht BYD, the parent company, invests 85% Thai capital group invest 15% Sales and after-sales service is approximately 2,300 million baht. Thai capital invested 85% BYD, the parent company, invests 15% The first car that BYD Automobile (Thailand) will launch in Thailand at the end of 2022 is the BYD Dolphin (EA1), a 100% electric car that competes with ORA Good Cat. BYD Dolphin is based on the BYD e platform 3.0 electric vehicle. Dimension BYD Dolphin Length 4,150 mm. Width 1770 mm. Height 1570 mm. wheelbase wheelbase 2,700 mm ORA Good Cat Length x Width x Height: 4,235 x 1,825 x 1,596 mm. wheelbase wheelbase 2650 mm The BYD Dolphin is similar in size to the ORA Good Cat, but is shorter. slightly narrower Powertrain Powered by an electric motor, Permanent Magnet Synchonous Motor, maximum power of 177 horsepower, maximum torque of 290 Nm, BYD Blade Battery (LFP), size 44.9 kWh, front-wheel drive, Front-Wheel Drive. Factory claim numbers Acceleration 0-100 km/h in 7.9 seconds Top Speed Top speed 160 km/h Running distance up to 405 km. (NEDC standard) Charging Support charging 800 Volt Technology AC alternating current supports up to 7 kW, takes 0-100% in 6 hours and 25 minutes. DC Fast Charging supports up to 60 kW from 30-80% in 30 minutes. BYD Dolphin prices after government discounts Expected to start at over 700,000 baht, cheaper than the ORA Good Cat 400 Pro model

You posted the same thing twice in this thread - not sure why Most condos built in Thailand do not have allocated parking because there are not enough parking spaces to give a parking space to each condo. However, If your condo does, you could make a proposal to the management committee to pay for the installation of a wall box in your space and the accompanied meter. The building would probably expect to make a profit on the sale of electricity to you and a monthly admin charge for for meter reading. When I was on a management committee we clamped vehicles parked in the wrong place with a fine for release.

MGs come with a free wall box and installation, not sure about GWM. In my installation the installer ran a cable from closest fuse box. An alternative is get a second meter installed, last year PEA had an incentive for EV owners of a free install of a second meter. You could then get that one as a Time Of Use and pay 2.6 Baht for overnight

Agreed 34.6 kWh in a PHEV is amazing. The smallest battery of the Nissan Leaf has a total capacity of 40 kWh!

All New MG ZS EV with Government EV discount 53.4 kWh Battery NEDC range 403km with V2L technology (Vehicle-To-Load) 2,200W high power supply

Agreed it is a bit odd - I did a google translate of the Thai page, but maybe they haven't updated the English Language web page yet

The Hyundai Ioniq 5, which was just recently crowned 2022 World Car of the Year would be great to see in Thailand.

Government EV discount on Great Wall Motor's Ora Good Cat https://www.gwm.co.th/en/ora-good-cat/

23% Government EV discount on the MG EP EV