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Any rangers fan who votes yes is a loon .It will kill the club stone dead stone .A rangers without no troops because there wont be a british army no union jack because no Britain anymore no queen or rule britannia a tims wet dream. any self respecting rangers supporter won't vote for the death of the club ..Sons of William vote NO How can you be a loyalist if there's nothing to be loyal to
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Rangers-Fans-For-Independence/496385913730588?hc_location=timeline HE FALL OF FORTRESS LABOUR
To try and understand the possible reasons why the Labour party have suffered so badly in their traditional stronghold north of the border we have to look much further back than the catastrophic results on the 5th of May 2011. Being one of the main Unionist parties Labour have campaigned long and hard to keep Scotland within the United Kingdom. The biggest miscalculation they have made is to assume that the people of Scotland oppose autonomy as much as they seem to oppose separation.
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The news that Falkirk Council’s arms length Leisure Trust have now pulled misleading and factually inaccurate adverts for the NO campaign funded by Tory businessmen based in the North of England has been welcomed by members of YES Falkirk.
This follows a complaint lodged with the Trust and their paymasters, Falkirk Council by the local authority’s SNP Group who claimed the adds were a breach of council rules on the use of publicly owned facilities at election time
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I would like to say, that "Yes" SC does know his stuff on Rugby League, just wish some of the other laddies where as knowledgable about the effects of a Yes vote in September.
Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand
your wish is granted,Here is a laddie with knowledge and understanding of CAUSE AND EFFECT
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It bounces the same as a League ball (near enough).
well i turned down the chance to go to the royal High because the sport they played the ball bounced funny,,so life might have sent me down the Tory elitist path if i did
Aye, sure, we can all wax lyrical about the fifteen-man code... Japan v Hong Kong tomorrow for the Asian Five Nations and a place in the World Cup next year - topically enough in the same group as Scotland ...japan has a very good standard of rugby and as you know or dont know craiglockhart is close to where Heriots play..
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I committed my own resources to supporting deep coal mining in Scotland, and I might as well have flushed my money down the toilet, but for the entertainment it gave my colleagues. I then invested in Lancashire manufacturing, with similar results
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plenty licenses going for the oil fields now then even though the no side have told us the oil is running out or even the energy deficient south needs our energy ..so you could invest in that and help our poor wee neighbours
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Aye, sure, we can all wax lyrical about the fifteen-man code... Japan v Hong Kong tomorrow for the Asian Five Nations and a place in the World Cup next year - topically enough in the same group as Scotland ...japan has a very good standard of rugby and as you know or dont know craiglockhart is close to where Heriots play..
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well i turned down the chance to go to the royal High because the sport they played the ball bounced funny,,so life might have sent me down the Tory elitist path if i did
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As I posted elsewhere, when I graduated I got on my bike to seek opportunity; this at a time when the French Onion Johnnies officially needed a work permit to work in the U K, though it is a long time ago and I am not sure...Are you saying you worked in Scotland for 25 years or England, Wales, Cornwall.?
Is this relevant?
Yes, to me it is so I can respond.......
So I got on my bike for opportunity and also took the opportunity to develop an interest in rugby league, something I am sure our WtoJ is missing, in the Land of the Rising Sun, or Craiglockhart or wherever he is
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so there you go you got on your bike to seek opportunity because the opportunity was not there in Scotland as it has been laid to waste by Thatcher and the people who followed her...or as a young graduate you suaght the wider experience of educational and work opportunity.. and hope that was so missing in Thatchers Scotland....The start of the broken Britain we have today.....Like i said previously check out the lyrics of LKJ if you want a more real perspective of what live was and is in Britain,,,for god sake only last week farange was trying to get people arrested for using the fascists word,,its the beginning of another more sinister round of freedom of speech and human rights get real people
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japan has a very good standard of rugby and as you know or dont know craiglockhart is close to where Heriots play..
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remeber there are people from all over the Uk coming up to Scotland as well for treatments,,,,,,,No he obviously wants the Berlin wall,,he has said as much
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You, and your friends at liesoverscotland, can dodge the issue all you want.
The situation now when Scotland is part of the UK will not stay the same if Scotland leaves the UK.
Scotland will be a foreign country and the same rules and regulations will apply to Scots receiving NHS treatment in the UK as apply to other foreigners.
Why do you find that so difficult to comprehend?
Or is this yet another example of the Yes campaign's apparent desire to be an independent nation whilst maintaining all the benefits of being part of the UK but none of the responsibilities?
I appreciate that it is in your interests to make everything seem complicated and unworkable, but there already exists a mechanism for patients residing in Scotland to receive specialist treatment in English hospitals AND for the costs associated with that treatment to be reimbursed to the English NHS. In 2012/13, reimbursements were made in the region of GBP 11 million.
http://www.nsd.scot.nhs.uk/%5C%5C/services/specialised/index.html
What is it you people find so difficult to understand about the fact that if Scotland becomes independent then it will no longer be part of the UK?
That's what independence means <deleted>!
What happened in the past while Scotland was part of the UK has nothing to do with what will happen in the future if Scotland leaves the UK.
As I said, it becomes more and more obvious that you and the other Yes supporters want to retain all the benefits of being part of the UK, without any of the responsibilities.
Tough; you can't.
SCotland NHS as been stated now by 2 members one in favour of a No vote is a separate body to NHS England what do you not understand about that.
so what are these benefits that you mention because as of today Scotland gets no benefits as regarding the NHS,,again it is your sub deeper conscious brainwashed 50 odd years of being in a Unionist bubble with the cap in the hand mentality that speaks....
I offered you to go speak to professionals who work in NHS Scotland who are more qualified than you will ever be to talk on the point yet you come back here again ....oh well...
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The truth is, of course, that the European parliament does not consider ENGLAND to be a separate nation, but a constituency within the UK.
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eventually came to realise, a mere irritation and an opportunity to educate. Well said ruam...
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Was the referendum won or not in 79 Yes it was is the answer ,,then they moved the goal posts to include the non voters and the dead and came up with the 40%....
. and just because you yourself, don't feel and injustice and resentment doesn't mean that it is nor rightfully justified,, after all it is a democracy and all experiences and opinions are as valued and as equal as the rest.
i also do not feel an injustice or resentment as i live my life without allegiances to any border or flag,, doesn't mean to say i will not expose some of the deliberate lies and propaganda the no camp is indulged in
Neither does it mean that i might expose the lies and propaganda of a future Scottish government
remember a democracy means the rights of people to vote,,this is the first time ever the people of Scotland have had a democratic right to vote on the issue of full independence.
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http://wingsoverscotland.com/liars-plague-our-land/
Spending on NHS Scotland is determined solely by the Scottish Government, which allocates resources to it from its budget as it sees fit, with no input from WestminsterPolitical independence would therefore change absolutely nothing about the relationship between four services which are already independent. The mechanisms governing cross-border treatment and funding already exist and are used daily, and patients are further protected by the European Health Insurance Card scheme which ensures reciprocal treatment in any states in the European Economic Area.
We’re sure that “Vote No Borders” already know all this, but have made the decision to cynically take advantage of the fact that a great many Scots don’t in order to frighten them with the false prospect that they or their loved ones might suffer as a result of Scotland voting to run its own affairs.
(Which is presumably also why comments are disabled on all their YouTube videos, lest anyone want to let viewers know the truth.)
The author of this piece, and you, seem to have little or no understanding of how the system works.
After all, the Yes campaign never cherry pick or twist facts to suit their argument!
NHS providers in the UK are all linked because the UK is all one country; regardless of who controls a particular local NHS budget; as the Scottish Parliament does with the Scottish NHS via the grant it receives from Westminster.
So, if someone from one part of the UK needs treatment in another, they get it.
But someone from another country, even another EEA one, cannot, as the piece suggests, simply waltz into the UK and receive treatment.
Yes, reciprocal arrangements exist between the UK and other countries; but these cover visitors to the UK, not nationals of those countries who travel to the UK specifically for free NHS treatment.
Similar with the EHIC. Although valid for 5 years, it exists to cover EEA and Swiss citizens whilst travelling or living in other EEA states or Switzerland.
The EHIC does not cover people who travel to another EEA state specifically to obtain medical treatment.
So, it's wingsoverscotland who are twisting facts and dealing out misinformation on this!
Not for the first time; and it wont be the last.
The author of this piece, and you, seem to have little or no understanding of how the system works.
Eh sorry i worked in the NHS Scotland for many years...Family members still do..Other family members have worked in NHS ENgland....
The video is clearly aimed at Scottish people,and the people who do not know that the Scottish and English NHS are separate
there is a good reason why horses wear blinkers,
So tell me;
Scotland becomes independent.
The EHIC card does not permit travel to another EEA country specifically to obtain medical treatment.
So how will people living in an independent Scotland be able to travel to the UK to receive medical treatment; unless they pay for it?
Yes, the video is aimed at Scottish people; as are all adverts from both sides in this campaign! Who else would either side aim their adverts at; Mongolians?
Scottish and English NHS may be separate, I'll take your word on that, but both are part of the National Health Service; and that nation is the UK.
If Scotland becomes independent then Scotland will no longer be part of the UK and the Scottish NHS will no longer be part of the UK's NHS.
How can it be when Scotland and the UK are two separate countries?
Or is this another thing the Yes campaign wants to retain from the union and yet another area where they expect to get their way?
Personally i know of at least 10 Mongolians who will be able to vote ,,so yes it is aimed at all people who can vote.
Wel,l there is your homework for you son, if you are questioning if Scotland and England NHS are not separate and what that all entails?.
why dont you go onto yes NHS Scotland and ask your questions seeing you are so open minded?
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There , professionals will be able and willing to answer your lack of knowledge on the subject matter
keep telling you that
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As usual, a Yes supporter who thinks that they will get everything that they want from the post independence negotiations; and will blame the Bastard English if they don't!
As usual you dont even need to rattle our English friends a little bit before Uk negotiations become English,,,but we all know that is how they have been brainwashed in England to believe,,but,some try and cover it up, unsuccessfully, by spouting on about only no one nation the UK and Brutishness. in the same breath as they squeeze out the England word in the name of political correctness.
Again it is only yourself and a few other people on here who claim that Scotland will get everything.
Its an negotiation,,,,that what it means a negotiation
,We all know that the British/.English are used to bullying,killing, seizing other people land and property in their terms of negotiation and that is when they did negotiate,,most of the time they just stormed in,,,,but this time they really have met their match.
oops and in case it has slipped your mind,,it will be an international team of negotiators ,, not just one man and his dog
Dear, oh dear.
The whole thrust of your posts in this topic has been that it is the English, not the Welsh or the Northern Irish, but the English who have over the years ground the Scots into the dust.
Hence my comment about the Bastard English. Apparently too subtle for you.
There are many examples, too many to list, of where the Yes campaign have confidently predicted that they will get what they want from the negotiations.
I am not anti English in any shape or form,,so dear oh dear it is you self who is unclear on that,,,
,must be a shock to you that you are wrong,,cause you are never wrong in anything, and force feed people your opinion,,
,,you do try old boy i will give you that,,but lack a lot of substance....
.Again it is a charge you and nontebury have constantly spewed out....but have offered no evidence at all because there is none,,,
you for one would have went snooping for the evidence you proclaim.....
again just a tactic by the no camp to get personal to stop them from the debate.
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I live and work in Scotland and so far there is insufficient information available to make an informed decision.
The White Paper, and the SNP's subsequent comments, leave so many questions unanswered and the "yes" campaign are just as vague.
I work for a company that has workers across the UK, and would have a cross border pension scheme under independence.
How can I make an informed decision when nobody from the "yes" side can tell me what happens to tax and pensions, which are obviously the 2 things that would most affect me.
I am also married to a Thai, so who would become responsible for issuing visas to Scotland if we get a "yes" vote?
The required unravelling is going to cost an absolute fortune, look what happened with the Scottish Parliament building, massive overspend.
Putting emotion aside, there are many more questions than answers with only 4 months to go
there are many qualified people out there who will be able to answer your questions,,,If you can hook onto a comments page and say your concerns you will get good balanced answer eventually.
I agree with you the cost is going to be substantial ,,but that worked on both sides,,so its in both sides interest not to get too entrenched,,though .
What social media sites have you been looking at?
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http://wingsoverscotland.com/liars-plague-our-land/
Spending on NHS Scotland is determined solely by the Scottish Government, which allocates resources to it from its budget as it sees fit, with no input from WestminsterPolitical independence would therefore change absolutely nothing about the relationship between four services which are already independent. The mechanisms governing cross-border treatment and funding already exist and are used daily, and patients are further protected by the European Health Insurance Card scheme which ensures reciprocal treatment in any states in the European Economic Area.
We’re sure that “Vote No Borders” already know all this, but have made the decision to cynically take advantage of the fact that a great many Scots don’t in order to frighten them with the false prospect that they or their loved ones might suffer as a result of Scotland voting to run its own affairs.
(Which is presumably also why comments are disabled on all their YouTube videos, lest anyone want to let viewers know the truth.)
The author of this piece, and you, seem to have little or no understanding of how the system works.
After all, the Yes campaign never cherry pick or twist facts to suit their argument!
NHS providers in the UK are all linked because the UK is all one country; regardless of who controls a particular local NHS budget; as the Scottish Parliament does with the Scottish NHS via the grant it receives from Westminster.
So, if someone from one part of the UK needs treatment in another, they get it.
But someone from another country, even another EEA one, cannot, as the piece suggests, simply waltz into the UK and receive treatment.
Yes, reciprocal arrangements exist between the UK and other countries; but these cover visitors to the UK, not nationals of those countries who travel to the UK specifically for free NHS treatment.
Similar with the EHIC. Although valid for 5 years, it exists to cover EEA and Swiss citizens whilst travelling or living in other EEA states or Switzerland.
The EHIC does not cover people who travel to another EEA state specifically to obtain medical treatment.
So, it's wingsoverscotland who are twisting facts and dealing out misinformation on this!
Not for the first time; and it wont be the last.
The author of this piece, and you, seem to have little or no understanding of how the system works.
Eh sorry i worked in the NHS Scotland for many years...Family members still do..Other family members have worked in NHS ENgland....
The video is clearly aimed at Scottish people,and the people who do not know that the Scottish and English NHS are separate
there is a good reason why horses wear blinkers,
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As usual, a Yes supporter who thinks that they will get everything that they want from the post independence negotiations; and will blame the Bastard English if they don't!
As usual you dont even need to rattle our English friends a little bit before Uk negotiations become English,,,but we all know that is how they have been brainwashed in England to believe,,but,some try and cover it up, unsuccessfully, by spouting on about only no one nation the UK and Brutishness. in the same breath as they squeeze out the England word in the name of political correctness.
Again it is only yourself and a few other people on here who claim that Scotland will get everything.
Its an negotiation,,,,that what it means a negotiation
,We all know that the British/.English are used to bullying,killing, seizing other people land and property in their terms of negotiation and that is when they did negotiate,,most of the time they just stormed in,,,,but this time they really have met their match.
oops and in case it has slipped your mind,,it will be an international team of negotiators ,, not just one man and his dog
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clear enough for you yes bashers about when Salmond will call an election
Without a link to the source, it means nothing.
If it is an official SNP poster, I would not be surprised if, come 2016, Salmond finds a reason why he cannot call an election just yet!
If it's not from the SNP, it's worthless.
Strange that none of you are confident enough about this to have accepted my £50 bet!
and you are not confident enough to take up my kind offer of meeting you in the flesh to discuss the questions.
Why it it worthless.You seemed to have difficulty in knowing when the election was to be held,,so now you know,,as you yourself have confirmed,by writing the 2016 date.
you also seem unable to shake off your believe that the yes vote is a vote for the SNP...
It will be in the case of a yes vote, the Unionists who will hold up the process ,if anyone is going to do it.it will be them Cameron ,Farange and the likes.
now care to give,your opinion about the NHs video which is being shown throughout cinemas in Scotland,as posted earlier
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How the voting thing % wise will work I don't know, but imagine the YES get it 55/45 and the idea turns out to be a complete cock-up for Scotland.
How are the 45% going to feel, how will they react down the line.............?
For a serious Scotland move the vote should be near unanimous in my opinion......
You make a fair point but where would you draw the line, and what ratio of Yes / No voters would be acceptable to permit secession?
Rather than focusing on split of opinion, I think more important is the push to make sure as many voters as possible are in full possession of the facts, and not just bombarded by propaganda and lies, such that they can make an informed decision.
I appreciate that, at this point, I am opening myself up to attack from those who are convinced that not a single word of truth comes from the Yes campaign, and the No campaign speaks nothing but the gospel truth, so, for the record, as I stated in an earlier post, I do not believe that the campaigning seen to date would impress any arbiter of perfect information, but I do believe that Project Fear is a genuine thing, and that, in the future, on a Yes vote, people will look at Darling and co with a sense of disgust that they tried to win the debate with lies.
Unfortunately we went on and on about the unfairness of the 1979 referendum, which required 40% to vote in favour of devolution, so such a rule was unlikely to be applied again. I just hope that there is a good turn-out for the referendum, and that the result is not close, for the sake of the future
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seemed to recall that the 40% vote in favour came into play after the vote was in and dead people counted as a no vote
Yes 1,230,937 (51.6%) No 1,153, 502 (48.4%) Rejected ballot papers 3,133 Electorate 3, 747,112 Turnout 63.6%-
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http://wingsoverscotland.com/liars-plague-our-land/
Spending on NHS Scotland is determined solely by the Scottish Government, which allocates resources to it from its budget as it sees fit, with no input from WestminsterPolitical independence would therefore change absolutely nothing about the relationship between four services which are already independent. The mechanisms governing cross-border treatment and funding already exist and are used daily, and patients are further protected by the European Health Insurance Card scheme which ensures reciprocal treatment in any states in the European Economic Area.
We’re sure that “Vote No Borders” already know all this, but have made the decision to cynically take advantage of the fact that a great many Scots don’t in order to frighten them with the false prospect that they or their loved ones might suffer as a result of Scotland voting to run its own affairs.
(Which is presumably also why comments are disabled on all their YouTube videos, lest anyone want to let viewers know the truth.)
of course the advert is just an opinion .Even though it is a blatant lie it is an opinion...The lie is not to deceive anyone,It is not to scare any one..It is only an opinion
Are the actors even Scottish or live in Scotland. ?,,like their actors in the photo poster campaign ,who are based and live in England.
Would a Scottish person or someone familiar with the nuances use the word muppet.?..Would the E word not be more appropriate to the text if authentic as more commonly used in Scottish dialogue.
.So come on yes bashers defend this,,you normally have lots of irrelevant counter arguments and of course the NHS is relevant is it not ?
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The CBI cant even cover up their cover up
The Confederation of British Industry's application to become a registered participant in the independence referendum was signed by two of the group's most senior officials it has emerged.
The Electoral Commission (EC) has published the CBI's application on its website showing that the lobby group's request to register as an official backer of the 'No' campaign was sanctioned by its head of political campaigns, Richard Maughan,-
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Scotland to become independent in March 2016 if referendum passes
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yes if more diplomats and politicians for that matter, took the stance that he did then the world would be a little bit brighter and better...