Gweiloman

You are much more optimistic than I am. Western politicians have lost the plot Majority of European politicians are too weak. Just look at Scholz’s reaction when Biden said that America would put an end to NS, thereby damaging Germany’s economy to no end. Just look at how the Scandinavian politicians are too afraid to release their findings on this terrorist act. They are stuck between a rock and a hard place. Too afraid to defy that hegemony and too racist to support the alternative.

A link! Must be true then. I take it that Ukraine is winning?

After a hard day’s work, I have the chance to relax with a double Royal Salute on the rocks and watching some real, factual news on the TV. It got me thinking about some of the claims of the haters. Among them, an unprovoked invasion to which I ask, to what purpose? Land grab? Ridiculous as Russia is already the biggest country in the world with an unimaginable amount of resources. One particularly outlandish claim was that Putin feared being overthrown if the Russian people could see how Ukraine could prosper by joining the EU and its citizens would become free and prosperous. Obviously that poster doesn’t know geography too well as Russia shares a border of over 1,000 km with Finland, arguably one of the freest and most prosperous country on earth. Russia also shares a border with China which is the greatest economic miracle the world has ever seen. Russia started this SMO with just a couple of hundred thousand troops. Contrary to what some might think, Russia knows warfare very well. Even a non-military person like me knows that that is insufficient to take over a country the size of Ukraine. Obviously the objective was something else. I believe it was to bring Ukraine to the negotiating table which it did. If Russia had wanted to take over Ukraine, then surely they wouldn’t have bothered with negotiations so early on in the conflict. March 2022, a mere few weeks after the start of the SCO, I believe. This series of events seem to support the notion that Russia had genuine security concerns about the intentions of NATO, led by a country that benefits from wars and conflicts all over the world. This is also a view supported by the global majority as well as a lot of renowned American and European scholars, military analysts and veterans. Question is where does this end? Further escalation, ending in nuclear Armageddon as per @connda’s new thread? Problem is that the west is so caught up in their own hubris that they can’t admit they were wrong. Interesting times ahead. Oops, need a refill.

I believe if there’s a nuclear war in Europe/US, Asia would still be quite safe, unless China gets involved. It could be a global reset, with China taking over the reins and finally bringing peace and prosperity to those parts of the world that survives. Might not be a bad thing, from humanities viewpoint.

Question is, does the west dare to take that chance?

Of course. But then, you’re a nobody. Russia is a superpower with nuclear bombs.

If I were to hazard a guess, I would say…. less than Ukraine.

Well, if you can’t intimidate them with threats, then try enticing them with treats…

I gave you a laugh emoji 🤣

The number of times Putin haters ask for links and references outnumber those who have objective views by 10:1. Similar ratio of Russian vs Ukrainian casualties 🤣

Humiliated, discredited and disrespected by a bunch of old geeks living in Thailand on the cheap with their soi 6 giks… whatever shall I do?

Talk about being blinkered..

Oh, I’m so bruised and battered…

I think you will find that I only retaliate as opposed to slinging the first insult. Not that it matters, this is just an anonymous internet forum with keyboard warriors that have nothing better to do all day.

Did you just make that up? Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Friday he had no objections to Ukraine joining the European Union following the European Commission's historic decision to back Kyiv's bid to become a member. "We have nothing against it. It is not a military bloc. It's the right of any country to join economic unions," Putin said on Friday when asked about the prospects of Ukraine joining the EU. https://www.euronews.com/2022/06/18/uk-ukraine-crisis-eu-russia

Seems like you’re an exception.

Spasiba.

So you reckon that Zelensky’s a great president? Blimey, you do set your bar low. I guess you will be voting for either Sleepy Joe or Trump the perv as either of them are the best possible candidates ever?

I believe most countries in the world won’t invade another country without very good justification (there’s one exception of course). As to why Russia “invaded” Ukraine (please note the apostrophes), there was an anti-Russian poster (can’t remember who) who stated that attack is the best form of defence. Think about it.

Wow, I never heard of this word, nadir, before. As I’ve said before, English is not my mother tongue so there are many words in the English language that I’m not familiar with. Thanks for helping me to enrich my vocabulary. I wasn’t referring to you in my earlier post of course, but that doesn’t mean I don’t consider some of your posts as the nadir of intelligent discussion (is that a correct usage? I’m still learning).

And your Russian friends (presumably still living in Russia?) represents the wishes of the majority of Russians and knows what’s best for Russia? If, on the other hand, they aren’t living in Russia, then they don’t have much authority, do they?

Most of us know the truth… I find this a most interesting statement. Truth… What is the truth? Is it what you believe or want to believe? If someone else believes the opposite, is that not the truth to them? Who is to say what is really the truth? A court of law? Judges? The ICC issued a warrant of arrest for Putin. This was widely applauded by the west, as justice was seen to be done. The same court might now issue warrants for US supported leaders in Israel. This is completely unacceptable to some US politicians, leading to calls of sanctions and who knows what else. Justice? Or hypocrisy? I’ve always held western education in high regard and believed that westerners are fair and just people. I now realise that I was merely a victim of western propaganda and that westerners are as fallible and gullible as everyone else. Worse, a lot of them are unable to be introspective and robbed of the ability to see another point of view. It’s time to replace the rules based order with international law and order.

I haven’t watched the video. As it’s still up, I assume it’s from an approved and credible source and judging from the fact that there are only likes and no confused emojis, it’s showing Ukraine winning and killing 1,000 Russian terrorists (not my words, just repeating what one poster said) every day. My question is why bother with the peace summit in CH when you are winning the war? I can understand Russia not wanting to negotiate if they are winning but most posters are telling me that I’m deluded, a Commie, Red etc, whatever that means. I’m either white if Caucasian, yellow if Chinese, black if Indian and brown if Asian. I always thought red referred to the Red Indians that suffered genocide under the invaders. History lesson appreciated here @Danderman123

Makes two of us. On this forum, doesn’t bother me the slightest.

Er… who is Mr. Wang?