Bluespunk

Looks like they’re going to have a sixth vote now. McCarthy being nominated by a member who has referred to this process as Groundhog Day. A lot of blah blah blah again but definitely targeting the band of 20…again. Apparently McCarthy can get things done…except for getting a speaker selected it seems. She’s just accused Democrats of drinking alcohol during this process. Democrats nominated Jeffries again. Took about 30 seconds and unlike the McCarthy nominee did so without hurling insults about. Band of 20 nominating Donalds again…ranting rather than rambling this time. According to him Washington is broken. This is going nowhere…

Fifth vote done and looks like McCarthy has again failed to reach required number. Even before got through a quarter of members votes Donalds had scuppered him again. McCarthy not even hanging around to hear final tally. Knows he’s lost the vote again and has left. He might well be done now, Ken Buck hinting his conservative grouping may not continue to support McCarthy in another vote. https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-us-canada-64153397?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=63b5d80e11d49175f77b656d%26We might see more defections away from McCarthy%262023-01-04T19%3A54%3A30.818Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:523ab3a3-0829-4ab2-b2c1-660cacf79b50&pinned_post_asset_id=63b5d80e11d49175f77b656d&pinned_post_type=share

McCarthy lost fourth vote. Democrat nominee got most, but not enough, votes again Straight away McCarthy nominated again…5th vote on the way by looks of it. Lot of blah blah blah with nominating speech but seems targeting the 20 who voted for Byron Donalds and the one who acknowledged they were present but wouldn’t vote (sparks or Sparts or something like that). Jefferies now being nominated by dems again. The band of 20 now renominating Donalds again. Fairly rambling speech but finished by implying trump has talked to the 20 and said McCarthy should quit trying to attain role of speaker. Seems to be an endless cycle of doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. The very definition of stupidity.

Vote is still going on but already looks like McCarthy has lost a fourth vote.

I would be very surprised if the British govt felt it necessary to undermine the Good Friday Agreement, as you suggest may be the case, as this ended the troubles. No one wishes a return to that violence. Only the grossly inept and incompetent would contemplate such an action; and while I have nothing but the utmost contempt for the current tory govt, I do not consider even them to be that stupid.

Exactly.

Nope. Just basic comprehension.

It was quite clear to me what the poster meant.

Nonsense.

This coming from someone who earlier posted a 51% vote for joining the eu wouldn’t be an acceptable result. Hypocrisy much?

Nonsense.

Do you understand the concept of “current threat”?

Think again https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/jan/04/record-133-uk-food-inflation-raises-fears-of-another-difficult-year?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Oh dear, you wouldn’t respect the vote then…

Who said brexit caused all the problems.

the main threat remains white supremacists.

*Deleted post edited out* Yeah pesky facts that show the negative impact of brexit.

It is hardly a coincidence that so many eu countries use home based companies to print passports. Whether awarded or through tendering process.

They tell you that because that is the current assessment regarding terrorism.

That you reap as you sow? Be careful what you wish for? The truth hurts? All of above?

I don’t drink alcohol.

EU regulations at the time allowed countries to award passport production contracts rather than put up for tender. Hence France doing so. “French passports are made by Imprimerie Nationale, the state-run French printing organisation, with the French government having made the decision not to put the job out to tender, as allowed under EU rules” https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2018/mar/22/contract-to-print-uk-passports-abroad-will-save-120m That may no longer be the case but it was when the U.K. govt chose to put the current contract out for tender. Edit: Other countries do so by citing security concerns I’m led to believe. Whether they are genuine or not they are cited…

That would appear to be a school of “thought”.

Nonetheless...

Doesn't change the fact it was the uks decisions that led to passports being produced in Poland, not eu rules. They did NOT have to put the contract up for tender but could have chosen to award the contract to a UK company. The French did the so for French passports.