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Yeah ^^^, I'd just go with a conventional tank and a pump with an integral pressure tank. A 500l pressure tank = a potential bomb!

CCTV on the linked page. He wasn't exactly hanging around!

Since this is not Thailand related let's slide it over to The Pub.

I did say "relatively low cost" not "as cheap as I can find". All are from known Chinese manufacturers. Of course they have their MCBs and the internal "melt the wire" protection too. I'm not worrying.

Works for me and would probably get you past Mr PEA. UK now requires RCD protection on pretty well every circuit in a domestic environment.

If you have a 3kW (13A) or so oven I'd run a seperate circuit in 2.5mm2 on a 16A or 20A breaker and hard wire it. Theoretically you should be able to run it off an outlet, but ... The smaller table-top beasties should fine on a (good quality) regular outlet. Practice in the UK used to be to put a single 13A outlet on the cooker supply to feed the oven. Hard wiring via a fused-connection-unit on the cooker circuit is also common.

I've posted this PEA document many times, once more wont hurt ???? Groundwire Mk2 book-Manual.pdf The important diagram with translations. Note the routing of the incoming neutral, you will need to do this to pass the MEA/PEA inspection.

Pretty much, once you have your permanent meter there's no further inspections. Of course if you cause a problem for the network they are going to come looking.

An oft asked question, particularly by us Brits. Please feel free to comment on your home country regs, ask questions, whatever. Let's keep it civil there is no "best" system every set of regs has it's own plusses and minusses. On to the subject at hand The general answer is "yes", most of the world's regulations (including Thailand) are based upon IEC 60364 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEC_60364 which makes an attempt to harmonise standards globally. Unfortunately, due to local historical effects it doesn't do a particularly good job. I've started this thread for discussion of what you can and can't do here and where your home country requirements are unnecessary (adding cost) or potentially hazardous in the Thai environment. It's important to understand that if you do decide to wire to BS7671, AS3000, US NEC or whatever you must do your whole installation to that standard, you can't cherry-pick the bits you like and ignore other parts, going down this route can lead to a hazardous situation. I'll kick off with BS7671 (The IEE Regulations) used in the UK. There are a couple of UK practices which could introduce a hazard if implemented in Thailand. The Ring Final (Ring Main) Beloved of us Brits along with the BS1363 fused plug the ring final was born out of necessity after WWII. The basic structure is a ring (odd that) of usually 2.5mm2 cable which runs around the area to be supplied. Outlets are scattered at stategic points (never where you want them of course) around the ring. The ring is protected by a 32A fuse/MCB. In order to protect appliance flexes each plug has a smaller fuse (up to 13A) which will open long before the MCB thinks about it. The problem here in Thailand (and most of the known universe) is that we don't have fused plugs! Implement a UK style 32A ring here and the bit of 0.5mm2 speaker wire supplying your fan is "protected" by that 32A breaker. A short in your fan is going to have that wire melted and glowing well before the breaker operates (to be honest the 20A usually used on radials is going to be marginal too). Also, the Thai outlet is (generously) rated at 16A, I don't really want to know what will happen at 32A plus when Uncle Somchai attaches his big welder! If you do have rings wired with Thai outlets why not break the ring at a convenient point and put each half on a separate 20A MCB? Less hazard and you gain an extra 8A of capacity! The Main Switch A UK Consumer Unit (distribution board) has a, usually 100A rated, main switch as incoming isolation. This switch is just that, a switch, and provides no over-current / short circuit protection to the incoming supply and meter. In the UK said protection is provided by a fuse usually 60A or 80A (occasionally 100A) in the service head, this fuse belongs to the DNO (Distribution Network Operator) and is sealed. Blow it at your peril! Here in Thailand there is no fuse provided by the network. There is nothing between your incomer and the transformer which may have a pretty large fuse. An average 150kVA "village" transformer is going to be fused at around 400A per phase on the LV side. Your 100A switch probably won't be happy and your meter may well be entering low-earth orbit if you get a short in your CU. Your incomer should be an MCB or RCBO (for earth leakage protection if you don't have individual circuit protection) sized to suit the meter you have. Usually 50A or 63A if you have the common 15/45 meter.

OK. Enough! Flame removed! Any more mis-information WILL result in a holiday.

If you say so, it's your home and your (and your family's) life. Do you actually have a copy of the Thai regs?

If it was I I would remove all subsidies on diesel. Let's see how long they last on market rates. UK is currently around 65 Baht a litre for diesel.

I admit to finding it "mildly" annoying when a forum noob comes along and tries to impose a foreign wiring standard. Try that in Oz and see how long you stay out of jail! If you DO want to use a foreign standard here the closest to Thai system requirements would be AS3000.

Oddly enough we are in Thailand, Thai regs apply. Do you actually have a 100A ISOLATOR? Where is your installation over-current protection, there's no DNO fuse here. Do you also have UK style ring-finals on 32A MCBs?

Which are then "massaged" by the local regulatory authorities! You may wish to consult the TIS standards for wiring in sunny Thailand.

To ensure no confusion please indicate which country's regulations you are using. Thailand has very simplistic requirements, basically a 30mA RCBO on the incomer with any sub units likely being 10mA. Discrimination is unfortunately marginal. Now of course there's nothing to stop you using higher current and/or time delayed units but the MEA/PEA inspector may will not understand what you have and fail the installation. When in Rome Thailand ...

My wife does that for ME sometimes!

Passing an office building late one night, a blonde saw a sign that said… "Press bell for night watchman” "She did so, and after several minutes she heard the watchman clomping down the stairs. The uniformed man proceeded to unlock first one gate, then another, shut down the alarm system, and finally made his way through the revolving door. "Well," he snarled at the blonde, "what do you want?" She replies… "I just want to know why you can't ring the bell for yourself??”

Are you referring to the 90 day reporting system? Or something else? If it's the 90 day system it's notorious for not recording postal and in-person reports with any accuracy. Have you received back your report notification?

One of our two barkers has has skin problems over a couple of months. He's had assorted anti-fungal, anti-bacterial and anti-histamine pills from the vet which have helped a lot (they have also helped to reduce my bank balance ???? ). Madam also read that Gentian Violet is good for skin issues so we now have a bright purple chihuahua! It does actually seem to be helping too, I brushed him this morning and very little fur came out, a couple of weeks back he would be dropping great clumps. Being purple does not seem to be affecting him mentally, he's just as crazy as he always was The vet thinks it might be an allergy to something in his food (they like the Pedigree small-dog) as his sister who shares the same bed etc. isn't affected so it's probably not something transmissable. There are loads of foods that purport to help with skin issues, some are $$$ others less so. Before I shell my hard earned wonga does anyone have any advice / experience / warnings?

I thought that was only for EU travel and that the rest of the known universe still go by the printed expiry date. I could be wrong of course. Anyway, I doubt anyone will actually have problems with Thailand Pass, at least on this front, there are plenty of other problems of course ????

When we were growing up in Dunbeath we had a boy called Donal. None of his classmates liked him because of his stupidity, especially his teacher, who was always yelling at him "You are driving me crazy Donal !!!!!" One day Donals mother came into school to check on how he was doing. The teacher told his mother honestly, that her son is simply a disaster, getting very low marks and even she had never seen such a dumb boy in her entire teaching career!!!! The mother was shocked at the feedback and withdrew her son from the school & even moved away to Glasgow !!!! 25 years later, the teacher was diagnosed with an incurable cardio disease! All the doctors strongly advised her to have an open heart operation, which only one surgeon could perform and he was in Glasgow ...... Left with no other options, the teacher decided to have the operation, which was successful...... When she opened her eyes after the surgery she saw a handsome doctor smiling down at her! She wanted to thank him, but could not talk. Her face started to turn blue, she raised her hand, trying to tell him something but eventually died! The doctor was shocked and was trying to work out what went wrong, when he turned around he saw Donal , working as a cleaner in the clinic, who had unplugged the oxygen equipment to connect his Hoover !!!!! Don't tell me you thought that Donal became a flipping doctor ????

If you have Class-1 fittings (need an earth) you can pick up from an outlet circuit, or even your building steel. In reality, most installations don't bother with earths on lighting circuits, the lights are well out of reach and the juice should be off before you mess about with them.