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28 minutes ago, tebee said:

I'll give you one - Commercial drivers are screwed, that is for both passenger vehicles and goods vehicles. To be a union operator you will need a transport manager in the EU27, otherwise you are a third country operator. That means you can’t do cabotage runs (not gonna explain that, look it up and use the word cabotage much much more) and if you do a lot of commercial transport in the EU27 you are going to have to seriously consider moving there.

 

https://ec.europa.eu/transport/sites/transport/files/legislation/brexit-notice-to-stakeholders-road-transport.pdf

There will also be restrictions on air traffic if the UK becomes a third country and no preparatory arrangements have been made.
It is likely that the UK would initially fail to participate in the free internal aviation market. This would apply to flights operated by British airlines within or between EU / ECAA states and, in turn, flights operated by airlines from EU / ECAA states within the UK or from other EU / ECAA states (7th and 9th freedom). The British easyJet could then no longer operate between France and Italy or within Spain, and the Irish Ryanair should fly only from Ireland, but no longer from other EU countries to the UK.

27 minutes ago, The Renegade said:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jul/20/france-minister-nathalie-loiseau-brexit-concessions-theresa-may-commons

 

???

 

No smuggling goes on the within the EU, especially people smuggling ??

 

EU complaining about red tape ??

 

Worried about competition ? No cheating goes on within the EU ?? 

 

If this article is true. It must be, it comes from the remainers handbook. Then Barnier is an even bigger idiot than I gave him credit for.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/mar/08/uk-faces-2bn-fine-over-chinese-imports-scam-say-eu-anti-fraud-investigators

UK faces €2bn fine over Chinese imports scam, say EU investigators

Customs officials are accused of negligence for failing to crack down on criminal gangs flooding Europe with illegal goods

2 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

 

This is truly shocking, and relatively recent swing away from the traditional Republican/conservative positions on free trade.

 

 

 

 

Here are a few countries and circumstances that have changed the attitude to the US to the negative.
Thanks to Trump's insults to countries and individuals.

All of Africa (54 African states) – shithole countries.
Mexico - Criminals and rapists (Trade war)
Canada - has really stabbed us in the back somehow (Trade war)
EU (28 states) – the foe – (Trade war)

G7 - Breach of contract within 24 hours (Trade war)
China – took advantage of us (Trade war)
NATO (29 States) - Good breakfast- (betrayal of trust)

Paris Climate Protocol (197 Nations) - a blatant minus business. (US isolation)

Süd Korea - Undisclosed commitments from Trump (betrayal of trust)
Iran - Exit from the nuclear contract - Malicious system – (US isolation)
and many more.
 

And here the never ending list from 487 People, Places and Things Donald

Trump has insulted so far.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/01/28/upshot/donald-trump-twitter-insults.html

And more than 70 percent of Republican and Republican-leaning U.S. adults believe  that will be good for the Country?
Who are those people?
Are they completely isolated from world news or what?

29 minutes ago, vogie said:

My reply to you is if the EU want anything out of this, they are going to 'have' to negotiate, and hopefully the UK will protect its own interests too, but you cannot tell with a remainer running the country. Our only saviour is we have Jacob Rees Mogg keeping her in check.

Wonder who produced all the hate.
The referendum was almost 50:50.
There must be compromises, from both sides.
Or even more division of society, and in the end civil war or what?

If the UK is so divided and incapable of deciding parliamentarily what kind of Brexit they really want, they can not be so stupid as to reach a compromise here, that will extend the withdrawal date sufficiently, to clear first there own mess. 

More than 70 percent of Republican and Republican-leaning U.S. adults believe increased tariffs between the United States and its trading partners will be good for the country, according to a Pew Research Center survey released late Thursday.

They only believe, but most have thought the least. They trust their "Führer", the insulting Clown Trump.


However, most economists warn that the imposition of import tariffs could disrupt global manufacturing supply chains, raise input costs and raise prices for consumers, leading to slower economic growth.

This logic chain is already more correct.
 

If the UK is so divided and incapable of deciding parliamentarily what kind of Brexit they really want, they can not be so stupid as to reach a compromise here, that will extend the withdrawal date sufficiently, to clear first there own mess.

17 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

 

Let me repeat what I wrote above:

Any impact from the UK's leaving will be absorbed by a much larger aggregate economy than the UK's. So the pain will be more spread out.

 

And here's a quote of mine from a slightly earlier post:

The EU certainly doesn't believe that it won't be hurt. But it's obvious that whatever it suffers won't be as much as what the UK does.

 

Brexit will hurt everyone.
Both the uk and the eu. Brexit is a weakening of the EU as well as the UK. The future economic competitors are China, India and now the US with this insulting clown Trump. Now leaving the world's largest market against the background of the swirling trade wars is extremely stupid.

1 hour ago, Basil B said:

There are many more...

 Donald Trump Jr and Eric Trump with a leopard they killed on a trip to Zimbabwe. Photograph: Hunting Legends

Even more yank's behaving badly:   https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/jul/29/cecil-the-lions-big-game-hunters-social-media

seems this may be a desperate vote winner...

How sick are these people?

Such types are only puke.

They are so greedy, they do not want to leave anything for the next generations. The prophecy of the Hopie Indians will come true under Trump. There has never been a US president who has spread so much hatred in the world.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5971063/Russia-showcases-six-new-cutting-edge-missiles-just-days-meeting-Trump-Helsinki.html

2 minutes ago, billd766 said:

 

You have stated your opinion many times and it is always negative.

 

Now roll on and see what happens.

 

Nobody really knows what will happen, not even you.

 

I certainly don't and neither does anybody else.

 

For example, will Theresa May still be the PM in 3 months time?

 

Could it be Boris, JRM or even Corbyn?

 

Will the Tories even be in power then?

Exactly, it is a mess.

Planning uncertainty on all fronts. That will certainly have negative economic consequences.

Tory hardliners fail to grasp that the EU would set the terms of a no-deal rupture.

https://www.ft.com/content/8980fc82-8a8e-11e8-bf9e-8771d5404543

2 minutes ago, The Renegade said:

All that studying worldwide economics did nothing to help your English Comprehension.

 

Do you see that key word '' Manufactured ''

Yes my english is not good as yours, coz english is not my first language.
But what does this have to do with the knowledge of economic issues?
You can wind around your lack of knowledge in this field as you wish.
I have given you the definition of the term in the economic sense.
 

4 minutes ago, The Renegade said:

That is because you struggle to understand English, a common affliction among remainers.

 

Goods and products, not farm produce.

 

Just to try and help you understand.

 

That would be GOODS, not FOODS.

In the teaching of economics worldwide, food is just as much a commodity as a pair of pants or a car
In all textbooks of micro and macroeconomics a distinction is generally made only between goods and services.
You apparently have not studied economics.

1. plural noun

Goods are things that are made to be sold.

Money can be exchanged for goods or services.

...a wide range of consumer goods.

2. (sometimes singular) economics

commodities that are tangible, usually movable, and generally not consumed at the same time as they are produced

Compare services

3. articles of commerce; merchandise

17 minutes ago, stephenterry said:

But after Brexit when the UK reclaims its fishing waters, the fish graph will change to minimum imports and greater exports. But alarming stats, all the same.

This does not necessarily have to be the case, as most of the imports are overseas fish.
In 2016, imports were highest for tuna (more than 120,000 tonnes), cod (120,000 tonnes) and shrimps and prawns (more than 80,000 tonnes).
Main exports were salmon (more than 100,000 tonnes), mackerel (more than 80,000 tonnes) and herring (more than 40,000 tonnes)
Also, the market prices for these types of fish are very different. 
http://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN02788/SN02788.pdf

19 minutes ago, The Renegade said:

I have told you on many occasions, that you cannot understand it is your issue to deal with.

 

Tell me one Country, who is a Net Importer, that can be considered doing well for itself ?

 

Most of the goods, that we currently import, should be getting manufactured and produced in the UK.

 

Massive benefits including millions of employment opportunities.

But then the UK should start growing fruits, vegetables and coffee right away.
Looking forward to see how the UK farmers sting their asparagus for 20£ an hour.
Brexiteer economics Volume 1 - LOL

40 minutes ago, The Renegade said:

Yes it is tragic, some people might have to get off their @rse and do something.

 

How difficult is it to get an IDP,  if you require one at a massive cost of around £5?

 

What you also fail to mention is that drivers from  all EU countries, plus Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway and Switzerland will also require the same if they wish to drive in the UK.

 

So let's not just make it about '' UK drivers ''

Lucky, only £5, my last IDP cost me £12 and a half day waiting.
The issuing authority must then be in the home country.
Does that mean that all the UK people living in the EU and all the EU people living in the UK have to go home to get this &§@ IDP?

Who would ever have thought of that?

Currently, UK driving licences are valid in all EU countries, plus Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway and Switzerland.

But unless a specific agreement is reached, UK drivers will need "additional documentation" in Europe after Brexit, the report says.

https://www.google.co.th/search?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.com%2Fnews%2Fuk-politics-44881058&oq=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.com%2Fnews%2Fuk-politics-44881058&aqs=chrome..69i58j69i57.-1j0j4&client=ms-android-samsung&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

Trump talks badly about his own security institutions. There is now the first time criticism from the Trump's own ranks, since they themselves are affected by his stupid mouth. 

Perhaps the Trump supporters can now understand how Europeans, Canadians, Mexicans, Nato, G7, climate scientists, etc. feel like if he insulted them in his impudent,  lying way.

Unfortunately, there was no criticism then. There is probably a lot of fear that with criticism, one gets fired by the megalomaniac, dementia sick,

orange clown.

Another aspect of how little DT thinks.
Two days before he threatens the EU - the foe - because of the gas pipeline, Nord Stream 2 sharp.
Then Putin must have clearly said his opinion.
Suddenly he is the tender Twitter little bird in Putin's hand.
 

U.S. President Donald Trump eased his tone about a Russian natural gas pipeline to Germany after a one-on-one meeting with President Vladimir Putin, shifting from the harsh criticism he’d levied in Europe last week.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-07-16/trump-says-u-s-will-compete-with-russia-for-european-gas-market

So you can not shape international politics.
Words such as stupid, naive and reckless are still too soft in the description.
The US must be careful not to be taken seriously on the world stage anymore.
There is urgent need for correction to stop this megalomaniac one man show.