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27 minutes ago, nauseus said:

You are confused. Brexit is not about rectifying any woes in the UK; it is about the EU. The referendum result is the long-awaited opportunity for the British to tell the EU that it is not as wonderful and necessary as it thinks it is. Common trade and travel (even reciprocal European employment/residence) agreements could be easily agreed between willing countries, without having to have these "four pillars" looming over an EU, which is shrinking within its own protectionist market.  

Oh dear.

Without the protectionist market?

Do you really think that European companies could compete with countries worldwide, where workers earn $ 3 a day in production?

I think Brexit does not want to have "cheap" Polish and Romanian craftsmen?

What is this?

UK - market Protection?

Then one could cynically say that the uK economy is not competitive even within the eu.

Have fun then with you future trade deals.

17 minutes ago, Jip99 said:

 

Except we don’t go round remoaners houses trying to ram the fact down their throats....?

True. I forgot , what was the name of the sekt with the red bus?

Sorry i only joking.

You should never scoff at the harm of others.

28 minutes ago, Grouse said:

So tell me, how are these Great British people who can't compete with a bunch of linguistically challenged East Europeans going to survive when our import barriers are demolished to allow in the cheapest, most hazardous goods the world can offer? Better buy an even bigger TV now while you still can

Do not ask so difficult questions.

Every brexiteer knows that the Uk is out in 10 months and that afterwards the paradise awaits them.

This is a little bit similar to the case of Jehovah's Witnesses.

12 hours ago, colinneil said:

INTERESTING POST, now here is a scenario for folks to think about.

After the election when Prayut is given his marching orders, he goes to the UK meets up with Yingluk, hello love you fancy going for a drink, and a chat about old times.

And they will certainly counting there money together, which they have acquired quite creatively.

My friend like to drive around the UK with his truck and buy the best Scottish Whiskey.
Then he drive down to Spain and sell the stuff at parties.
On the way back he buy the best Spanish and French wines and then sell them in the UK.
And then I'm not surprised he finds Brexit is shiiiiiiiiiit.

41 minutes ago, nontabury said:

sI’m sure there are some,if not many politicians who do have experience of international trade, unfortunately when you have remainer Teresa May in charge,  this results in Brexiteers fighting on two fronts. 

I do not want to exclude that there are a few politicians who bring the expertise in detail.
But the way politicians work are PR, lobbying, and beautiful speeches which they pobably have not even writen by themselfs. There is not much time left to study details in depth.
 

6 hours ago, The Renegade said:

Stop arguing with the Brussels clowns. 

Yes, it is so painful for the well-planned, intelligent, well-thought-out, well-informed, very well organized,

well prepared and united uk negotiation team.

This concentrated negotiation competence is indeed frightening.

11 hours ago, Jip99 said:

 

 

A European Economic Community might have worked...... a a bit like ASEAN. 

It all started that way.
Then over 40 years the eu project has developed. And the UK was involved all the time as one of the biggest net payers. For the uk there were made many times special solutions. I think it's a pity that the uk now, after 40 years suddenly say everything is shit. This is probably where the EU parlament members from the UK have failed. With its veto power, the uk could have changed the eu.
and there could have been majorities for many topics. 

In 40 years, the EU has evolved from a pure trade association.
For example the binding jurisdiction. how else could the eu enforce the following measures in each country uniform:

if a federation of 28 countries decides that e.g.

- plastic bags may be dispensed in supermarkets for free to reduce the microplastic in the sea.
- Only energy-saving lamps can be used to reduce co2 emissions.
- prescribes the mesh size in fishing nets so that the juvenile fish can survive.
- requires phone companies to limit a maximum for roaming charges to protect consumers from rip-off.
- to regulate the maximum working hours to protect workers from exploitation.
- Conduct basic research together and share the research results.

I could list 1000 more examples.
But at the core this is more efficient than, each individual state implements such measures for itself depending on there mood or even not.
 

35 minutes ago, Jip99 said:

 

 

Europe is brilliant.

 

 

Just a pity that the EU forked it up.

 

 

I never had, and never will have, any desire to be part of USE or a federal Europe.

I respect your opinion.
But how timely is your opinion against the backdrop of globalization, global value creation, global supply chains, international financial markets, resource scarcity, global environmental threats, overpopulation, species extinctions, etc.
The relapse into small states will certainly not be able to solve the problems of this planet.

If those criminals  can go unpunished, that is again a punch in the face for all honest and sincere people.

4 hours ago, Grouse said:

Very little to discuss. Of course the negotiators have lots of time left. Anyone know any good jokes?

Again 4 Brexiters have drowned.
They wanted to build a cellar under their houseboat.

2 hours ago, Grouse said:

Very little to discuss. Of course the negotiators have lots of time left. Anyone know any good jokes?

Hello, I am from Britain, you know, the one that got tricked by a bus.

And 90% from the other half do not know until today that it was a ladyboy. 555

It's interesting, the brexiters are all against an more united europe.

The horror superstate, where nobody can directly vote the leaders.
But who voted directly for TM as PM to lead the UK now?

39 minutes ago, tebee said:

Brexit Planning Process

 

2016: We have a plan 
2017: We have many plans
2018: We have no plan

2019: It's your fault we didn't have a plan.

There was no plan at any time.

Building up a functioning

tax audit should be one of the most important reforms. The balance check between official income and actual wealth would disclose corruption among many officials and would contribute to eliminate the social inequality and injustice.
 

But this is difficult, if many of the decision makers, for reasons of self-sustainability, have no interest in this subject at all.

“We will need a starting budget of between Bt10 million and Bt20 million as we will also have to buy a machine to get useful extracts from marijuana,” he said.

Why not buy a proven bamboo bong for 500 baht to get useful extracts.

The owner of  Victoria’s parlour

faces 12 charges, including procuring prostitution and human trafficking and is on the run. On the other hand, we have an ex-police chief who has borrowed 300 million baht from this criminal.

What a fine society.

On absolute moral low.

I am also not a fan of the Islamic invasion in Europe. There should not be such a lifelong residence permit in Europe. I would prefer that permanent migrants have proven to have a family bond from proven europen roots.

Higher tariffs on steel imports ok. In return, Europe should pull out the plug from Microsoft , Google , Facebook and the spy software of the NSA.

An upgrade and reasonable maintenance of existing rail links is more urgent than monstrous spendings on new high-speed trains that maybe drive in 5 years+

1 minute ago, Khun Han said:

 

That's because they know that the general retail prices drop which is going to filter down from brexit will create a consumer spending boom.

Sure.
The product quality is not bad.
In Germany, we have here Porsche, BMW and Mercedes drivers who buy their champagne at Aldi.
The division of society is also in full swing in Europe. The classic three-layer model: upper class, middle class, lower class has stoped to existed since the 1970s.
Today there are only 2 layers left and the middle class is dying out.
In the UK, too, there will be further thinning out of the middle class.
The overwhelming effect will be that the people of the middle class slip into the lower stratum.
And then there are the nice German discount supermarket chains, which will supply the growing lower class at a low Price. In this segment, it will then come to a spending boom. Hurray.

Brexit no problem.
The German carmakers are crying, the German food discounters celebrate. "Aldi and Lidl will benefit if more consumers in the UK have to pay more attention to the price in the future." Aldi and Lidl have recently announced massive investments in new stores and in the modernization of their UK branches. Hurray.