Kitsune

Chamchuri is one stop center for those with BOI privileges.

Yes us non-BOI standard farangs are not good enough to have downtown location

And Merry Christmas to you too Mario!

At last a good news !

Russian are not westerners, and in any case, if there is a problem with Russians working illegally, the authorities can easily deal with them, as they have Russian passports... (unless we believe one of the posters here that some have fake French passports).

I got an ED visa by going to a Thai language school, which is perfectly legal. So your allegations of breaking the laws are both wrong and rude, and please keep them to your self.

As for the Thais benefiting from my stay here, that is obviously true - my money comes from abroad and goes into Thai businesses and individuals, and would not have been there otherwise. It's not like there is a quota and I'm taking someones place...

And finally, there is a term called a Win-Win Situation, and perhaps you should familiar yourself with it in your advanced age - it's when both sides benefit from a situation. The foreigners that stay here do it for their own benefit, the same way as tourists come here for their own benefit; It does not mean that Thailand does not benefit from it as well.

Does the new requirement say "westerners" ? No.

Agakure, we have not tested it yet but it seems people with a lot of tourist visas may find it difficult to obtain an ED visa. Sent from my GT-I9190 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

thats good as they are not students..just visa jumpers

Wrong.You can't say that for everyone,don't generalize.I have a lot of tourist visas but i actually have never missed a thai school lesson on my ed visa,and i'm eager to learn thai language.

It would be better to have some sort of test based upon how much months/years did you learn thai.Those who have ed visa for several years but can't speak even a word,those are the real problem.

As said so many times, please bring me an immigration officer to test my Japanese, I have a level 3 certification and 7 years of study, but somewhat they persist in talking to me in Thai, and it seems the case for every language beside Thai

So proof of income...from how long into the past, 1 month, 3 months, 6 months or 10 years?

I think the idea is to show how you will support yourself during your study, not how you support yoursef in the past.

So you must provide your current (foreign or Thai with foreign input) bank statement showing the withdrawals from ATM ? Just the current month is OK?

1/ How much is need per month ?

2/ can't you say your thai spouse is supporting you ?

Thanks

There has been no official amount mentioned.

You could say Yyor wife is supporting you.

If you are legally married to Thai you don't need a ED visa or extension. You could get extensions based upon marriage. Or a multiple entry non-o visa.

I'm not married yet, but will soon, so can I say my GF is supporting me ?

1/ How much is need per month ?

2/ can't you say your thai spouse is supporting you ?

Thanks

- Newly renovated, big 3 bedroom house located at the very end of a private soi with private access to river to share with one lady.

- Huge lounge, kitchen, pantry, office, 2 bathrooms.

- Good size bedroom with a huge private balcony

- Big garden

- Mobaan with security, parks, 2 lakes, swimming pool and tennis courts.

- Access to expresss way (2 minutes) and transports to Khlong Boat (30 minutes to Central World, 15 minutes to Thonglor).

- Partly furnished : Fridge, washing machine but need bed/sofa/table etc

For clean, non smoker, friendly, quiet animal lover.

Avalaible in 3 weeks

Well the only explanation could be someone slaughtering them and sell dog meat, but it is a lot easier to kill the dog with a gun or use the knife on the dogs throat and it will be over in a few seconds .

The other explanation would be fur and meat or just fur.

In fur industry animals are skinned alive to keep the fur intact. Hence the screaming.

Please check numerous horrific videos on youtube about this for reference.

Or could be electrocution; a way to stress the animal to the fullest (it is believe the meat is better if stressed) and it does not cut through the fur either.

That would also explain :

- why patchy is still alive when all the others have disappeared

- why they don't feed and take the mangy ones

Stray dogs are a blight on the country...good to see them put to good use rather than just buried or burnt on heaps.

A poor person has probably had a nice meal today that they might not have been able to afford if it was beef or pork....pork is getting so expensive now....and chicken....270b for a village chicken now at the market.

So you approve of animal torture ?

Still in shock from the disappearance of all these dogs, I decided togo to the local vet of our mooban.

I told her everything, the dogs from the main road gone, the dogs from the sontjaew area gone, the screams at night... She said she did not know about it but it did not surprised her as one of her customer reported that 3 years ago they killed all the dogs in the mooban and no one said anything. I asked her how it was possible, she said that Thai people don't like Thai dogs (that's what they call stray dogs) so they don't care.

She gave me the number of a" fashion model that makes cruelty against animals law" ??? Might have lost something in translation there ! Strange but apparently this person can help me ...

I asked her several times not to tell anyone about this, first I asked to talk to her alone so her assistant would not hear, she says it's "ok" as her assistant does not speak English. Then her mate calls and the first thing she does is tell her about me and my story right me in front of her assistant in Thai...

So much for privacy ! I don't think Thai people understand the concept of protecting sources ...

I'm still in shock, the all thing is huge, we are talking of over a thousand dogs killed during the last 10 months (4 a day in average = 1220 dogs) and tortured and many people must know about it as they see the packs arriving and disappearing right outside their doorstep !

I feel dizzy and nauseous.

I don't know what to do anymore, Im so in shock and I cannot trust anyone here with my identity and yet I have to stop this but how ???

I just been to the end of the mooban where the sonthaew drivers have their area and all the dogs except 2 are GONE !!! 3/4 weeks ago there were about 12/15 dogs there!

The drivers were resting in hammocks and looked at me passing on my bicycle, one of them said something to another and he said my soi number! (they know me and looked suspicious of anyone coming to their area)

The only 2 dogs left are the black eye patch friendly one (remember him?) and another brown one, Patchy might actually be lucky to be patchy (patchy fur does not sell?)I bet Brownie is next to go...

They made a little makeshift cage made of wood planks where there was a dog inside 3 weeks ago and now it's empty !!!

That might explain the lower pace of screaming sessions ...

Very strange! Could it be monkeys?

No it's either a different dog or the technic has changed.

or both

It happened again at 9.06 but the voice has changed

what used to be flat same pitch on top of lungs screams: (breath in) waaaaaaah breath in) waaaaaaah (breath in)waaaaaaah

is now articulated modulated yaps with 4 or 5 different types of harmonics but repeated exactly the same way :

(breath in) waah waah waah waah (breath in) waah waah waah waah (breath in) waah waah waah waah

Amazing how some men allow this to happen to them. . . . .anyway, be careful.

Thank you for your support

Yesterday and for the second consecutive Sunday, only one time around noon and nothing in the evening.

What I thought could be a Loy Kratong/ Bank holiday exception, could actually be a Sunday pattern.

At least writing here gives me a track of previous event I can go back to.

So if it's like last week tonight, Monday night should be a busy night with 3 times around 7pm, so I plan to be waiting in the back alley.

For those who are interested, the hours have changed recently and so has the origin of the sound.

Today for example 12.30 midday which was a first

Yesterday evening no 7.03 pm but 9.45 pm, although I was there at 7.03 ... have I been noticed ?

I have been in the back alley about 10 times now but each time nothing happened

And also it happens not so often now, just twice a day instead of 4 or 5 previously.

Could it be related to the fact there are no dogs left in sight on the main road ?

It used to sound like behind my opposite neighbor and now it's behind my right hand side next door neighbor. That, I have no explanation for.

try http://www.petaasiapacific.com/aboutpeta-contact-reportcruelty.asp

Thanks simple1

I will

thats nice to know but will they keep what you tell them to theirselves.

I won't count on that.

That's why I need to be sure it's really a matter of dogs slaughtering soon (my contract ends end of jan)

If I am right and I report it, I will have to leave the district, if I'm wrong I can stay in the mooban

It would be a shame I waited over a year to get a place in this Mooban and on so many other levels it was perfect.

Sorry, but i still can't get it round my small brain.

Why, after all these months of listening to the noise (which is stressing you) don't you just go there and bang on their door and ask them what is going on? From what i read and have been told, Thai neighbours have no shame in walking into other peoples houses, so why not you.

It seems that this has taken over your life, noting times etc. just go and ask them. Or get in touch again with the police and animal organisations. I would not have put up with that for one week let alone a year.

OK, I thought it was obvious but OK, I will tell you why:

1/ I still don't know where it exactly come from, as in which house, I had suspected my opposite neighbor but then ruled him out. As shown on the map previously attached, it take a long detour to reach a noise that lasts less than 45 seconds.

2/ If it's animal slaughtering in inhumane manner for money, there are 2 very sensitive issues: Crime and Money

a/ it's a crime to harm animals even here and people even in THL have been in prison for this. So it very unlikely they would open their door let me in or answer any question, and more importantly I would immediately put myself in great DANGER because:

b/ As previously mentioned by the forum, people involved in this type of trade are the worst scums are putting lots of animals in great pain for a few dollars, they have very little respect for life of others in general, not just animals. They would not hesitate to resort to threat violence or any form of intimidation to keep their business going and obviously avoid prison/fine etc. As my dad and people from the forum said, if I do anything I would have to move out. Even if I send an association telling them not to reveal my identity, I have no guaranty the perpetrator won't find out it's me who ratted on them and they will surely retaliate.

So there is NOTHING I can do except trying to collect evidences to prepare for denunciation before moving out. And that's what I am doing.

Do you have any farang friends you work with who could come over and help you out?

I have 2 farang friends yes, they are both married to Thai wives and I quote one of them said "I don't own my own time", and that goes for both of them.

When they want to visit me they have to ask their wife, like 2 weeks in advance, she usually says 'yes' to keep face but when the time comes he has to cancel at the last minute because something "came up".

Anyway they would not be able to come on that time. One has to help his wife and get up at 4 am each morning so cannot be here (40 km away from his house) at evenings, the other one is not allowed out when his wife is back from work which is evenings and weekends.

try http://www.petaasiapacific.com/aboutpeta-contact-reportcruelty.asp

Thanks simple1

I will

As said previously to record outside noises you need this (see picture), which I obviously don't have

2 guys agree it's dog in pain. None of them want to act on it. Why would the forum be any different?

I am not going to invest in recoding equipment to have a moron telling me it's his wife having an orgasm.

Ok sorry to trouble you people with my ranting about animals in pain.

I am obviously wasting my time here.

Best wishes

Kitty....have you been eating the meatballs or noodle soups in the area ?

No never

I just had a chat with my next door neighbor.

Remember the one who was supposed to come out last time to listen ?

He said that evening he was in his bath and his phone does not work well, which sounds like 2 made up excuses to me, one would have been enough and sounding more real.

Anyhow, he said he's been hearing it and paying attention to it more, and he admitted too that it does sound like pain (as opposed to loneliness).

I asked him if he thought it was one same dog or different ones, he said he thought it was the same one, probably a sick dog.

I told him pain that it last exactly 30 to 45 second every each time and it happens every single day except on Loy Kratong is very strange indeed. He could not explain that.

He asked me the strangest thing : Was the noise was disturbing my sleep? I obviously said "no" as I don't go to bed at 7pm. It fell like he was trying to make a point, that there was no issue, and I should stop looking into it. He was basically sending the hint that this issue / animal welfare was not an issue important enough to face dodgy business. I repeated the Loy Kratong break, the exact same duration and told him there must be someone hurting dogs here. So he felt obliged to show interest. Because I'm nearer to the noise than him, he asked me where I thought it came from.I pointed the area. He said he would go and have a look around the area (which sounded like an empty promise again). I immediately relieved him from his fake promise and told him it's 3 houses in row along the canal all with big walls and you cannot see anything. So he say he would not go then (as if I had believed one second we would have gone) and took that opportunity to tell me because it's located outside our mooban we cannot report it to the mooban authorities (as if they would have done anything) and there is nothing we can do ... So that ended the conversation.

The bad news is; Despite his friendliness, he's like any Thai person trying to avoid getting involved in anything that could potentially be doggy, even if it mean tuning a blind eye or rather here deaf ear to pain cries.

The good news is : He's the 3rd person (after my friend and I) to say it's a dog in pain.