Thorgal

I didn't miss anything. The first poster didn't specify which Israeli babies. The mass killing of 40 babies has been reported on one side + 1 baby burned in oven. The misinformation of the 40 babies has been debunked by AJ and verified with the Israeli officials + news outlets Again, misinformation should be debunked and avoided to be posted here on AN. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0el9wiOBmmM But there's also the false allegations of Israeli babies in cages from Hamas in Gaza : https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/unverified-allegations-beheaded-babies-israel-hamas-war-inflame-social-rcna119902

He talked about killing of Israeli babies : the only Israeli babies that have been reported so far by media was during the 7th of October attack. https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/unverified-allegations-beheaded-babies-israel-hamas-war-inflame-social-rcna119902

Some news outlets announce that the 40 babies story is not correct and never existed. Which makes me doubt each time this subject pops up on AN, and I'm just asking for proof to exclude any doubts or false information. The bombing of the Al Ahli hospital in Gaza resulted in 200 to 500 Palestinian causalities. I saw the uncensored images of the first ER just after the bombing. I could see al the corpses, etc. This tragic event was completely put into doubt through the resident CSI team claiming that there's not enough criminological evidence to conclude that it was a bomb and that there were so many causalities. No crater-no-bomb. Why do you become a troll if you raise the same questions for one Israeli case, but is it the opposite when Gaza victims have been pronounced?

Can you provide a link to the (national) funerals of these 40 babies? As per Jewish tradition it's usual to do the burial within 48 hours of TOD. Thank you.

It's just a request between members of AN to exchange their views and feedback with latest update of information that is available and that can be treated as reliable and not disproportionate for emotional or personal reasons. Free speech posting boundaries have been regulated through the forum rules that are clear for everybody. Free speech posting boundaries can not be imposed by other member(s).

Here's a good overview with more in-depth information about the failing security system/software Pegasus before and during the attack of 7th of October 2023. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWXxf1dUXzQ

In short : I'm right. The info given really happened and influenced the defense of Israeli citizens. It's relevant info that wasn't posted earlier. Confiscate : Thorgal added "a little twist" ? https://www.britannica.com/dictionary/confiscate#:~:text=%3A to take (something) away,duration of the field trip. Quote from source : : to take (something) away from someone especially as punishment or to enforce the law or rules

Don't accuse me for conspiracy theories coming from me because of reasons... Again, provide it with my posts, instead of suggesting that they were deleted. Almost the perfect crime of intention.

This is a summary from all facts of the attack from page nr. 1 till page nr. 265

I only put facts down that happened on 7th of October and earlier. This info is available from Israeli citizens or organizations. You can conclude for yourself without accusing me to push the conspiracy agenda. Which conspiracy theories did I post? Can you answer ?

1. Some facts have been made official, but taken back because of insufficient data at the moment of making it public. example : IDF tweet of the hospital bombing 2. More details are available now and have been checked and commented by independent experts or the State representatives. The question came from Mr. Owl Sees All, and his question is OK for me. There's no suggestion of a conspiracy or inside job. But if there was indeed an inside job then it's very bad. If there wasn't an inside job then it's even worse...

For sure, Mister OSA I've seen that day within the first 2 hours of the attack the first clips of the attacks on Telegram apps. The Merkava tank blown and the 3 guys taken out of the tank. The 2 IDF soldiers killed just outside the wall. Killing of Hamas frogmen on speedboats and/or jet ski's by the Israeli navy : I think they were the only branch in the army that did their job as expected : eliminate any threat immediately without any delay. IAF F-16's on low loader trucks taken away in emergency out of the region. This separation wall is reinforced concrete of 6 meters high and 30 meters deep. These walls have sensors an can provide signals to the operation center in case of intrusion. All personnel of these operation centers were (mostly) killed or taken as hostages. Some 15 penetrations were made into the wall. None of these explosions created an alarm signal to the operators. We have to believe that the Shabak (Shin Bet) domestic intelligence service didn't receive any tip from the whole preparation of the attack + any logistic information from weapons and/or equipment (tunnel equipment) and training (parachute glider etc...) I didn't see within the first 3 hours : - backup of Apache helicopters ; only after 4 hours with special forces - backup of mechanized brigades : no extra tanks from outside conquered perimeter Bonus : - 01/09/2023 Israeli government confiscates all handguns from security people in the Gaza belt. Security people was against this decision, but they had to deliver their hand weapons. - 10/09/2023 : Israeli municipalities received reports that there were predicted possible agitations with Palestinians during the coming Jewish holidays. They've asked for advice for the Gaza community belt to the IDF, but IDF replied that there was nothing to worry. - 29/09/2023 : Egyptian intelligence director phoned personally to Netanyahu on +/- 29th of September that they suspected a near future large scale operation. Summary : some 2.000 to 5.000 Hamas militia went within 6 hours with only AK47's, Para-gliders, pick-up trucks, motorcycles, handguns, RPG's, no tank to kill 1.400 civilians and bring back some 230 hostages.

Again, please, don't ask me any more questions in the future, as my answers would be labelled as deflecting or off topic... Case closed...

I'm also baffled by these points that you've raised. I'm always open for a constructive discussion to debunk all of them!

I made reference to your clip that was already used by another user. How can I deflect if it's the same 27/10/2023 interview...? Furthermore, I've answered you question in details. You didn't reply because you can't refute any point of it. Instead, the blame game of "deflecting" and "caught" and "running" sounds repetitive to my other posts whatever subject I've posted or replied. Again, please, don't ask me any more questions in the future, as my answers would be labelled as deflecting or off topic...

Here it is : https://aseannow.com/topic/1308598-israel-is-at-war/?do=findComment&comment=18470865 Please, don't ask me any more questions in the future especially to me, as my answers would be labelled as deflecting or off topic...

I've seen already this footage and this was already discussed by others. For advanced : Hamas is subjected through extensive preparation (+15 years) to 3rd to 4th generation warfare. Israel is subjected without preparation (3 weeks) to 5th generation warfare. Success to subversive warfare is that the information remains within military limited networks and non public. Pure from military operational view it's advisable to keep the locations of all network of tunnels at military level only. A weak link could be created by any civilian that wants to collaborate with the enemy. A similar model is still taught at military academies (not sur CIA) like West Point about the Battle of Algiers. All resistance cells were limited to a few persons (let's say 3 to 4 persons) and all cells didn't know each other. Which was very effective if one cell was caught (partly) alive and avoid internal interference in combat situations. Some 500 km of tunnel network have been created as per your footage and not made public for security (collaborators) reasons. Majority of IAF bombs used are the JDAM Mk84 of 2.000 LBS with bunker buster capacities. This means that any soil contact detonation of these guided bombs will destroy a section of your tunnel network. Any refugees taking shelter within these sections would be killed. Bomb craters of 10 to 15 meters don't forgive anything under it. The chance to survive aboveground is bigger I think than underground. Gaza ground offensive is phase 3 of the total plan. Let's not forget that Israeli hostages are also more vulnerable during bombing and Israeli PR is working with daily protests of relatives of the hostages. I've seen footages that Israeli people that were attacked bought a one-way ticket and never want to come back in Israel. It's part of subversive warfare. Moreover, these tunnels have been designed for guerilla/urban warfare, not as bomb shelters with respect to personal safety for larger groups + oxygen supply.

You've answered indirectly. Thank you for taking the time to answer my question.

Sorry, I didn't find any antisemitic subjects in this link. Can you elaborate which are the antisemitic parts ? Just 1 or 2 is enough. "I find this antisemitic for reasons" is not acceptable because we can't do mind reading...

OK, I will follow your good advice Mr. Neeranam. Case closed.

There was only 5 to 10% of your 486 posts in the last 10 pages that I've checked. Can you find "my Russian comrades" or your alter ego...? That was actually the point you've raised that I'm biased with Russian influencers or connections...???

It's not advisable to be confronted, but you've asked yourself : (from the last +/-10 pages, I've better things to do...) https://aseannow.com/topic/1308598-israel-is-at-war/?do=findComment&comment=18471664 https://aseannow.com/topic/1308598-israel-is-at-war/?do=findComment&comment=18471668 https://aseannow.com/topic/1308598-israel-is-at-war/?do=findComment&comment=18473064 https://aseannow.com/topic/1308598-israel-is-at-war/?do=findComment&comment=18473810

I saw recently that you repost frequently as "we". Did your supra alter ego met some Russian comrades...? If yes, we need to adapt the program of this group therapy as per DSM-5 cluster B.

Re-post : note : the speculation aspect is also applicable for you (but you knew it already) I've just pointed out that this protection of press building and maybe press personnel has not been respected. France requested explanations and has the right to receive for me them if these building have been used by the Palestinians for military purposes. No personal problem for me if Israel wants to continue or extend its PR disaster outside the region to the EU. As usual, you're just guessing without backup. Even the French authorities have no feedback but you're able to "produce" a conclusion...

I might as well start to put some people on "ignore" to counter latest personal attacks because after people get easily cornered. But mu hesitation originates from the fact that I will miss this entertaining part of "reverse Darwinisme". Some people do their best (or maybe not) to counter basics of human evolution without realizing it. Pure stimuli-response contributions (posts) without self-judgement capabilities can be funny and unveiling...