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http://thaiembassyuk.org.uk/?q=node/51

This website says "Non Immigrant O", but it's clear from the description that it's for retirement visas only. What about marriage visas? There are 2 different classes of "O" visas. Retirement and marriage. Seems they wiped out the marriage rules completely? Where is that now?

The link relates to the Thai Embassy and the O/A visa!

What to see more ?

Take a closer look at the website.

Looking back on this thread it would seem advise was actually given which suggested the child be taken to KK.

Not sure about the spitting !

Many such "cures" to be found in rural Thailand !

If you are "working" a better idea would be to legalise your situation by obtaining a "B" visa and work permit.

Cambodia. You could get a 2 entry tourist visa.

Not as I understand from Cambodia !

Maybe it was Laos which was intended to be suggested ?

Just because you are leaving every year does not mean you can't get an extension as long as you do your first extension at the time of year when you know you will be here for a couple of months. You only need a single re- entry permit to make your trip.

Why make border runs every 90 days unless you really have to.

I'd agree with that if the UK was my only trip. But as I travel out at least bi-monthly I don't need border runs and so it has been convenient up until now. I'll likely try for another non-O next year (unless things change again), it will be interesting to see how that goes as my UK bank account (into which my income goes) has my Thai address on the statements.

I'm in the same boat - making many trips out of country back to the UK or to elsewhere, so a non-O multiple has been very suitable for the past 6 years. If we are forced down the extension route (I'm married and over 50) we would not want to be paying 1,900 ThB every time we flew out just to reenter. BUT, I have now dug out my notes from when I visited Sisaket immigration a year ago. They were trying to persuade me that an extension was better than a multiple non-O for my circumstance (quite why they had an interest in persuading me was not clear - more work to justify their positions I guess - or just being naturally helpful which they seem to be)

I note now from my notes that there is an option to buy a multiple re-entry permit at 3,900 ThB. Can someone who is using such confirm its existence and current (or recent cost) and that it can be used repetitively over the course of a year. That would make the extension route no less painful financially than the non-O route. Just the sycophantic grovelling to be allowed in once a year then (Hull has never required that alt=laugh.png width=20 height=20> ).

A multi re entry permit is indeed available

You can apply for an extension of stay at your nearest immigration office. Your application will be refused and you will be granted 7 days at a cost of 1900bht to leave the country.

You may have to provide evidence of having a ticket to leave within the seven days.

Leaving the country and returning by air will provide another 30 days. Returning via a land border will give 15 days.

Getting a tourist visa in a nearby country will provide 60 days extendable at immigration for another 30 days !

I personally would submit what you are due to submit otherwise you are doing wrong. Don't give them any reason to have a complaint against you.

Today I was informed that the school would terminate my contract at the end of this month and provided a huge stack of supposedly complaints against me with a couple fraudulent warnings that I never signed. As anyone who has ever taught in Thailand would expect these complaints are either quite petty or half truths In order to receive my September salary I must sign a form from the school. Any suggestions as to how I should proceed?

Sign the form.

Receive your salary and move on

Get non-o based upon marriage and submit copy of marriage certificate with WP application.No need for a non-b this way as I said before.

How many times you going to tell the OP the easy option before he picks up what you're putting down?

As many as needed. This is another one.

How many more times will good advice be rejected ?

As the UK is making immigration so difficult for Thais (and all other non-EU citizens) is it any wonder that Thailand is responding in kind?

Those Thai's in farangland are taken care of, nooooooooooooo hoops,....... benefits............health care............the lot..............I cannot claim a single baht in LOS, YET, hoops.

LOS would prefer my wife should spend her life walking the streets picking up plastic bags and empty bottles to sell than me or any farang live our good life with what we have.

Have you attempted to navigate the "hoops" associated with a Thai gaining entry to any Western country ?

Resent history to stop folk milking the faragland benefit system once they have permission to stay. I cannot claim a baht in LOS and my Visa STATES, Non-immigrant, biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig difference.

Do you have evidence for what is being alleged ?

If you have 400k in the bank then get another letter and reapply ! ( don't make any withdrawals !)

As the UK is making immigration so difficult for Thais (and all other non-EU citizens) is it any wonder that Thailand is responding in kind?

Those Thai's in farangland are taken care of, nooooooooooooo hoops,....... benefits............health care............the lot..............I cannot claim a single baht in LOS, YET, hoops.

LOS would prefer my wife should spend her life walking the streets picking up plastic bags and empty bottles to sell than me or any farang live our good life with what we have.

Have you attempted to navigate the "hoops" associated with a Thai gaining entry to any Western country ?

I predicted this was going to happen and cited it as one of the reasons that we will move back to the UK when our kids are of school age because as an expat you are really at the mercy of the next year's visa changes.

I'm 35 and have 2 children with my partner, I was mulling over the option of raising our kids in Thailand because we are very close to our Thai family, however I knew that over the next 18 years that anything can happen to the visa rules and I would be forever at the mercy of whatever was decided year to year.

4 years ago I could get this visa just for visiting a Thai friend. Then it changed to you must have a baby with a Thai. The next year you needed to be married to a Thai, and then you had to be married and have 400k Baht in a Thai bank. This coming year it's upped to 800k, so just in the space of 4 years it's gone from visiting a friend to needed to be married with quite a hefty wedge of cash sat in a Thai bank. How much stricter are they going to make it over the next 18 years? All they need to do is make some rule like any expat is not allowed to spend more than say 90 days of any year in Thailand and that would destroy any life we built here after how ever many years our kids were growing up here for.

So either I forever live in fear of whatever visa conditions I need to fulfil next year and be treated as a national security risk and a 2nd class citizen for the rest of my life with my family here, or we all move back to the UK where my partner will have all of the rights and privileges I am entitled to.

Hope you are able to meet the UK financial requirements of moving the family to the UK

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas-immigration/partners-families/citizens-settled/spouse-cp/can-you-apply/financial/

As per that website, yes I qualify the condition for having 2 children 3 times over. Thanks.

The "condition" does not relate to the number of children but rather to having a provable income of , at minimum, £18,600.

I predicted this was going to happen and cited it as one of the reasons that we will move back to the UK when our kids are of school age because as an expat you are really at the mercy of the next year's visa changes.

I'm 35 and have 2 children with my partner, I was mulling over the option of raising our kids in Thailand because we are very close to our Thai family, however I knew that over the next 18 years that anything can happen to the visa rules and I would be forever at the mercy of whatever was decided year to year.

4 years ago I could get this visa just for visiting a Thai friend. Then it changed to you must have a baby with a Thai. The next year you needed to be married to a Thai, and then you had to be married and have 400k Baht in a Thai bank. This coming year it's upped to 800k, so just in the space of 4 years it's gone from visiting a friend to needed to be married with quite a hefty wedge of cash sat in a Thai bank. How much stricter are they going to make it over the next 18 years? All they need to do is make some rule like any expat is not allowed to spend more than say 90 days of any year in Thailand and that would destroy any life we built here after how ever many years our kids were growing up here for.

So either I forever live in fear of whatever visa conditions I need to fulfil next year and be treated as a national security risk and a 2nd class citizen for the rest of my life with my family here, or we all move back to the UK where my partner will have all of the rights and privileges I am entitled to.

Hope you are able to meet the UK financial requirements of moving the family to the UK

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas-immigration/partners-families/citizens-settled/spouse-cp/can-you-apply/financial/

That was a totally bogus an inaccurate piece of nonsense !

As I read it it related to all marriages between a Thai lady and a foreigner regardless of where the marriage took place !

Although there was a 2003 constitutional court ruling that gave the Thai wife the right not to change her name - you would be a brave soul to rely on this when it comes to Thai-Farang as opposed to Thai-Thai marraige.

A lot of information out there in reality only applies to Thai-Thai marraiges and is incorrectly associated with Thai-Farang marraiges.

As you can now see, the Thai Embassy is insisting that in the case of Thai-Farang marraiges the Thai wife has to have changed her name - now you can take them to court on this based on the 2003 ruling for Thai-Thai marraiges if you wish......... but I do not think it will get you anywhere.

You still have not posted a link relating to the "law" which is alleged to exist !

BTW My Thai marriage certificate lists my name and my wife's MAIDEN name !

You do not have a visa ! You have an extension of stay !

If you wish to leave the country and keep the extension of stay alive a re-entry permit is required.

If you do not stay in Thailand for a whole 90 day period no addess report is required

90 day reporting resets on your return.

kannot

I do not understand your problem.

If you are fifty within a few weeks all that is required is a single entry Non O Visa based on marriage or an intention to retire.

Once back in Thailand an extension of stay based on marriage (or retirement if you have the finances) is easily obtained.

If an O visa is refused then all that is needed is a tourist visa which can be converted at immigration at a cost of 2000bht (You would , of course need to meet the financial and other requirements).

Toward the end of 90 days apply for an extension.

This simply comes down to the fact that some people don't mind handing over money they don't in fact owe, and others do mind.

What if the example somehow changed, and you were charged the extra 100 baht fee 200 times a year. Would you care then?

Why is it that I have managed to live in Thailand for many years without being subjected to "scams" ?

Why have I not been targeted ?

I demand to be scammed I am a foreigner !

Strange how they have changed the information link to their Visa Service. They had a dedicated section explain everything in detail. Now its just basically a flyer.

As ubonjoe says, perhaps they scaled back their advertising which I find bizarre, wouldn't you say?

There have been recent reports of a "toughening" attitude toward the issue serial tourist visas !

Maybe the "scaling back" is related to a more rigorous enforcement of "rules" at the Consulate ?

If that is the case, then this is starting to get ridiculous. Now they are scrutinizing Tourist Visas as well.???

Don't make it difficult on those who abide by the rules and are genuine visitors.

Unfortunately the behaviour of the "abusers " reflects back on all .

There is some pilot study data to support a potential benefit.

http://cgpsl.org/downloads/pdf_cgpsl/7.pdf

Sorry but that is a very poor study involving only 12 alleged Dengue sufferers .

I would agree it's a largely unproven remedy but where is there any proof of it being a hoax or quackery?

Unproven doesn't mean fraud.. It just means unproven.

Or is someone sitting on a some study that shows Papaya leaf is ineffective?

The whole point is that Dengue is a potentially lethal disease.

Close medical monitoring can reduce the risk.

There is absolutely no evidence that Papaya leaf cures Haemorrhagic Dengue Fever.

But as they say in Thailand "Up to You" !

The attitude will soon see the OP gone !

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There is some pilot study data to support a potential benefit.

http://cgpsl.org/downloads/pdf_cgpsl/7.pdf

Sorry but that is a very poor study involving only 12 alleged Dengue sufferers .

American English is an oxymoron !

But thanks for adding to the confusion !