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Be careful there at the end of the beach...too many pickpockets..and all in monkey costumes!

Yes...it is very easy and do not need to use any costly help...but...be careful.

if you are divorced is better to have your divorce documentation, translated in Thai, to show at the Amphur. If you do not have it, or do not want to show it, the better advise is not to write divorced on the Embassy affidavit, write single...to avoid any problems or delays at the Amphur. The US Embassy site say it is need it, and I had all my divorce documentation and translation ready. A local "advisers" I asked before said that was not necessary to have it. Guess what? The Amphur asked for my divorce documentation...

Because the first step after the Embassy affidavit is the Foreign Ministry Certification, and the Amphur is the last step...... If the Amphur rejects the application because the divorce papers are need it, will be necessary to do all over again....

A while ago I met a woman in her late 40s. She was on an online meeting site. Business owner, independent, nice car and house owner, English speaker, amazingly sweet, smart, and beautiful, looking for a farang husband. When I met her in person, I felt craze in love, right away, but she told me that she was looking for somebody with good financial situation. I understood that I was not right for her, and we just kept exchanging notes in Facebook. She mention that a farang from the US she met one year before here, a lawyer, wanted to marry her....when he decided to retire and move here. Because this guy was also on her Facebook, I contacted him too. Very nice guy, and really in love with her. But, 6 months later, this woman met another nice farang, and after 3 months she got married. No was a surprise for me. I was happy with the news, but was a surprise for my friend in the US. He was so upset because she didn't told him about, he deleted her from his Facebook.

I just asked him what he was expecting...... For a woman like that to keep waiting for him to decide to retire and come to Thailand?

OP, if you want the girl to be honest about compensation, then you should be equally honest as well. Meaning, you should tell her from the outset that you're only interested in free sex.

Contrary what people say here...Very many good girls will go to your place on the first date to have sex....even just hours after meeting, very many, but good girls will feel insulted if you ask how much its want for sex....If you need to ask, it is just because you are not very sure about what kind of woman are you dealing to. In that case, and if you are looking for free sex, do not ask, do not take to your place, and let it go. Most of the times Thai women do not understand English well, but will make you believe the opposite, and that is a recipe for wrong interpretation and problems.

Again.....Women and men have the same sex drive, just with different approach. Bar girls and prostitutes have other interest attached with that, and sex drive doesn't count, to fake it well counts. It is part of the "job".

With so many good girls in Thailand looking in have a good time...why take risk with bad girls?

Sorry..I do not get it.

Tis a wonder this does not happen more often where I live...many bike events around here and training groups from town out here every day.

I always ride on the opposite side of the road so I can see what is coming, hopefully the extra couple of seconds might get me out of the way.

Hi my friend. About riding in the opposite side of the road.....I had the same idea years ago..but...I forgot that the car driver will be in the right side of the car, and looking in that way when crossing the freeway...The driver cannot see me, cross my path and...I crashed. I was lucky. I fell before my bike got under the car, I had a helmet, and I landed on ground and not on the pavement ....I hope you think about this next time you ride..Take care.

Get a bbq, light it outside, wait for the coals to glow and move it inside, good heat, no smoke, last hours, no electric.

Coal?...bad idea....

If your marriage is going strong, the sex "problems" will not affect you in any country.......in any city. But..if you have doubts about how strong is for your husband...do not move to South Asia.

In the end..the US will oppose to anything that looks "red"....After so many years...The US still paranoid about any kind of socialist ideas and/or people's movement....and keep promoting its "Democracy for the 1%".....

In the US 90 cm is the normal high for railing...and most Americans are tall people. I do not remember to ear about so many falls from balconies in the US....

Auto maker in India making big profit? Ex CEO of General Motors? Low cost products? Competition to the BIG ones?........

Conspiracy it is more common in this world that peoples think....

I used in the US the collar type holding a small box on my cocker spaniel. He liked to bark when I was home alone. Are not cheap, but works very well. Give a small electric shock to the dog if barking. Because dogs respond by conditioning, after using it for a while will be not necessary anymore. The barking will stop...and..if coming back..use it again and repeat the process...Probably are made in China and you can buy online...or ask a friend in the US or EU to send you one by mail...

With millions of available young women in Thailand, why do you waste any thought on her. It may even be a shit test and she returns later.

Whatever, go on and find the next chick. Shouldn't take more than a few days.

Thank you. Out of the millions there should be at least one that will qualify with my requirements. You see my problem? I have requirements in return for some bills or gold.

Sorry....but...if a man need to use some bills or gold to get its "requirements"...what is the difference of its woman with a bar girl or prostitute..?

In more than 3 years in Thailand, I had so many funny or absurd things happening to me, and I believe that every tourist or expat probably had too.

I am curious to know about yours, just for fun...

One of the situations I smile every time I remember, I called "Lost in translation..or what?"

In December 4, 2011 I travel to Loei from Chiang Mai for a weekend in my way to BK, and a friend advice me to get the bus ticket from Loei to BK at soon I arrive there, because was a holiday coming, and buses may be full.

Well..I did. After arriving in Loei I walk to the first office showing a BK destination with a VIP bus service. With a 68 years old body, I pi 10 times a day, and I need a bus with toilette. I do not speak Thai, but I tried to check if that particular VIP bus had a toilette, and I asked the lady at the counter about.... because will be an overnight ride and I was also looking for a good sleep.

Was not easy..she probably knows 3 words in English, but the word toilette she understood, and she was very happy in sell a ticket to me. She said something to a person standing close, and that person translated to me. She said " You are lucky, you got the LAST seat, and with toilette! "

Well..I was really happy for follow my friend advise. I got the LAST available seat to BK on an overnight VIP bus!

Two nights later I was there again, waiting for the VIP bus, and I saw a just painted very old bus parking in front of the office with a VIP and BK sign....the only one at that time...but not many people around it. Was really a "classic"..and I asked about. Yes...was my VIP bus.

The bus attendant called passenger to board in loud voice, and I show in first place....because..I was the ONLY passenger boarding the bus...and the attendant shows me my seat...the LAST one on that row.....just by the toilette door.

Was early..and I waited for more passenger to come..but not..I was the ONLY ONE passenger on the bus, and seated on the LAST seat.

The bus was a museum piece from the 50's and my seat was small and hard...with fixed or broken back. The only thing related with a VIP ride were the free water and cookies I got, 2 small TV hanging over the walkway, and.... the "personal" service. The attendant kept seated by my side all night with a big box of cookies, watching TV with all lights ON...To get a good sleep was just a "dream"..

Finally...I arrived in BK in need of a full restoration....like the bus.

Here are my observations and experiences living in Thailand for more than 25 years.

Thai lady’s occupations and their dating practices:

Thai ladies have different needs depending on their background, education or work ethic and date accordingly. Some ladies live alone, some live with their children and others live with family or friends. How they live is a big factor on who they date and what they are looking for in a mate. In this chapter I will try to explain the differences in the types of Thai ladies looking to marry western men and the type of guy they are looking for.

Career Oriented Women

The career minded Thai lady is well educated and work driven. She either works for a large firm or company where she can advance to the top or owns her own business. Many work in sales for large companies and can make their own time to meet men. They drive nice cars and live in a nice house or apartment. Most have never been married nor have children so they have money to travel and go out. The age range is around 28 years old or older and they dress well and are very attractive.

The Business Thai lady is well educated, bright and studied at the finest universities in Thailand and many studied abroad. Some speak English very well and some do not speak anything but Thai. When they go out for fun they go with their lady friends or colleagues from work. These ladies adore white skin so if you enjoy outdoor activities in the daytime, beach and sun they are not your type. They are from wealthy families and have their position in their work because their family groomed them for the job. They either work in the family business or for a friend of the family. When it comes to a boyfriend or mate they would rather have a wealthy Thai businessman and usually not marry until she is over 35 years old. These are the hardest ladies for a western man to get close to. The western man has to live in Thailand and have high status such as a college professor, CEO of a large company or foreign government official.

My encounter with a Thai lady professional was in 1991 when I was working at Payap University in Chiang Mai as an advisor for the Mass Communications Department. I started in 1989 and the university gave free Thai language and culture classes 3 days a week, which I attended. I had to dress smart and look sharp every day and follow Thai customs and traditions.

On a Saturday I went to a Thai handicraft festival at Chiang Mai Land with a couple of Thai friends when one beautiful well dressed and sexy lady caught my eye. She worked behind a counter selling jewelry so I left my friends and made conversation with her in Thai as she couldn’t speak English. We talked for a couple of hours and I went and bought Thai food for her to eat while she was working. I went back the next day and visited her until they packed up their booth and left back to Bangkok. She was working in the family business with their main jewelry store in Bangkok while her and brother traveled around going to trade shows.

To make a long story short we saw each other almost every weekend for months. When she traveled to North Thailand I would go with them to the trade shows all over the north then I got invited to her home in Bangkok. Her home was very large with 2 Mercedes in the driveway. They put me up in their spare bedroom and her family and I ate together, they told me about their business and we talked all weekend.

The next weekend she visited me at my home in Chiang Mai driving all night to meet me in the morning. We had breakfast then she made Love to me. We were intimate all weekend long, whereas before I couldn’t even touch her, then she dropped the bomb. She said “My father wants us to marry but you have to move to Bangkok and work in the family business exporting our jewelry”. I told her I would think about. I never heard from her or could talk with her again.

I did run into her 2 years later in a shopping mall in Chiang Mai. I asked her why I couldn’t talk with her after that day. She said her father says if I didn’t go right away to work with the family and marry her I never would. She was now married to a Thai man and had an 8 month old baby. Lesson learned.

Government Worker

Thai ladies who work in Government service such as teachers, nurses, government offices again are well educated. They are very dedicated to their job and have very little time for dating or going out. On weekends and holidays they have to work with children, prepare for festivals, giving vaccinations in small villages. They also have to cater to high government officials, members of parliament and Royal Family visits.

Most do not speak English unless they teach the language. Many are not married nor have children as they have little time to meet men. Many go online to meet western men on social web sites. They do not drink and are very obedient when it comes to Thai and Buddhist traditions and customs. They are family oriented and most live at home with their parents, brothers and sisters and their families.

The government lady worker enjoys the outdoors, camping and outdoor group activities. They are very family oriented and like men that enjoy staying home with children, no drinking or smoking, must know Thai and Buddhist culture and customs and also be willing to live with their family. These ladies are probably the best wife a man in Thailand could have if you are willing to live by their high moral standards.

I met a school teacher at a temple in far North Thailand where I was teaching English in 1994. She lived in Bangkok and we visited each other many times in both Chiang Mai and Bangkok. I stayed with her family of 11 persons in 1 large home when I went to Bangkok. Most of the time while visiting her on weekends I went with her to decorate temples, help her decorate floats for parades and went on scout trips with her and her students. We married in 1995 and before we married I asked if she would move to Chiang Mai within 1year after being married and she said yes. We did marry in Bangkok but divorced 6 years later as after all those years she never came to visit me in Chiang Mai. We agreed to divorce because she did not want to leave her family in Bangkok and I just could not live in a house with 11 people. We are still friends.

I have also dated a government nurse. The problem with a nurse is we never saw each other. Her working 14 hour days and weekends is the normal practice with little time for meals together or even talking to each other on the phone.

Service workers

Service workers include are those who work in restaurants, hair salons, hotel worker, tour guide, and retail sales persons. These ladies are probably the easiest nice girls to meet as they are in the public daily. Their ages are from mid 20s to 40. Most have at least 1 child and divorced. They work about 12 hours a day and get 1 day off a week and get a salary plus commission and/or tips. Many speak English but some do not. I talk about meeting and dating a service worker later in the book.

In 2002 I met a Thai lady who worked at a seafood restaurant in Phuket. I visited Phuket several time over the next year although I live in Chiang Mai. I visited her at the restaurant every day I was there. I made sure I went during slow business hours so we could talk. One day when I went to Phuket and the restaurant the staff told me she went back home to Udorn Thani. They were nice enough to give me her phone number, which the girl I went to visit requested them to do.

I called her and she asked if I would go visit her family there in Udorn and I said I would. I took a flight the next day and checked into a hotel then called her. She was very excited that I went to see her and then she invited me to her home. I had dinner that evening at their home and invited her, her sister and mother to come visit me in Chiang Mai. The next day the four of us flew to Chiang Mai where I put them up in a hotel at the night bazaar, showed them my home and around the area for 3 days.

Two weeks later I return to Udorn and asked if their daughter to come to live with me and Chiang Mai and they said OK. 2 days later she moved in with me and we stayed together for 6 years. I sent her to school to learn English and she work with me in my bakery and my tour company. Her English and business skills were great after all these years together.

One night she asked me if she could live alone as she always had someone to take care of her and had an idea to start her own business. I said that was up to her and that I Loved her and not to be a stranger. She now has her own dress and shoe shop in Pattaya and doing an excellent business. She works very hard and says she doesn’t need a man any more (now 43 years old) but we do get together at times and are very good friends.

Hill Tribe Girls

Many hill tribe ladies work in restaurants. Hill Tribe Ladies make very nice wives if this is what you are looking for but not as a girlfriend. They want to get married quickly and you will not be able to have contact with any other ladies or hang out with previous friends. Going to a pub or bar is out of the question and drinking is allowed during their festivals when the whole village drinks homemade whiskey. They are very strict and bossy with little or no patience. Everything has to be their way or no way. Also you will have to live in her village and build a nice house for her family.

I dated a Lisu Hill tribe girl but very briefly. She worked at a noodle restaurant and was very sweet when we were together dating in the city. When I visited her home and family for 2 days with a Thai male friend (we stayed at bungalows near the village) and when one of my female tour guides called me she was very angry saying I could not talk to girls. The next day my female tour manager called me and the Lisu girl went ballistic asking why I am talking to so many girls. My Thai friend (one of my tour company drivers) and I tried to explain to her I have to talk to my manager and guides and I was only talking business. She told me to go away and never come back, wow what a shock. Her parents were angry with her and wanted me to stay for dinner but we left thinking am I glad I didn’t get involved with this girl.

Bar Girl and Escort

These ladies should be just for fun and never get serious with. Most are from poor families with very little education and many have children and their husband or boyfriend left them. They have to take care of their family and being a bar girl is the fastest way to make money. Child support here in Thailand is unheard of so the guys can get away with fathering a child then leave for a younger girl with no children. Some girls have a Thai boyfriend or husband they go home to every night and others have many boyfriends that live all around the world and send them money. The western boyfriends will come visit her for a few months a year and she will make sure they guys never meet or know about each other.

Living in Thailand for more than 25 years I have visited my share of bars and pubs. I have many lady friends who are bar girls but never leave the bar with them. I buy them a few drinks for their company and ask questions about their life which is very sad. Many Ladies have children that are handicapped or mentally challenged. Other ladies have been raped by a family member and kicked out of their home to make money for the family. These ladies have serious problems and NOT marrying material.

Thank you for sharing your experience. Even if I live here and single for not more than 3 years, and I never dated a Hilltribe woman or a bar girl, I agree with your description of all others. After dating so many women all around Thailand, for fun, and also looking for the right one to marry, Finally... I got lucky, very lucky....but I know that was not just luck.... I was married 3 times before with Western women, now just good friends, and I am 70 years old retired Brazilian designer, and not wealthy at all. I took my time to learn Thailand...getting prepared to recognize the opportunity to be married again. She wasn't sure she wanted to do it. I insisted, and we got married 2 months after meeting. Best decision in my life.....and I hope for the years I still having to enjoy happiness whit love at my side. ..

I will say again.....Even for an expat...to ride bikes or drive cars in Thailand ONLY if is absolutely necessary.....and ONLY with a Thai driver if possible.

For a tourist to rent it and take the risk attached to it....INSANE!......I was insane for 4 months.....never again!

Wow, great! All except the last paragraph. Sounds to me like you have found a subservient, house servant rather than a wife. So I can only gather she is the exact opposite of your previous spouse. Thus you enjoy living here?

Maybe I am reading too much into this but you have less a marriage, but more a owner/servant relationship. But if it works for you excellent, and I fully agree it is a good reason to be living here.

Cheers.

i can see how it reads like that. believe me the relationship goes both ways. i certainly have my choirs and responsibilities. i was only trying to highlight how great she treats me and keep the spotlight off myself. its not the case like on another thread that i call up stairs for her to come down and open my beer, if i did i would have it being broken over my head. .

and no prior marriages

And you will appreciate your wife even more if you were married before with western women....I was married 3 times before my Thai wife...and I never felt so in love and so happy in my all life..even if I have complaints some times about the Thainess...Her respond always is..sabai...sabai...and she is totally right. We..farangs...take things too seriously some times...and can not see what is really important.... Live to learn...learn to live...and that includes different cultures....and learning to smile and have fun with simple inconveniences..

I you do not drink and smoke, do not like to go out every night, and you do not like to paid for sex, you can live very well with $500 TOTAL expenses in Thailand. How?....Renting OUT the tourist areas of Chiang Mai, a nice place, even a small house, not just a room, for not more of $150/month, not using the AC too much, brewing your coffee if you drink much, and eating in streets and markets "restaurants"....and using ONLY 15 THB mini buses for transportation. For fun, get on the Internet and meet local girls from 18 to 45. Thai women always look younger than Western women. Be direct and franc with them about your financial situation, many will reject you, many will meet you for a cheap date. At your age it is easier to make friends here than older people. Always greet and smile EVERY women you see and like, and ask for "directions"...and a date. Nothing to lose with that....You may meet a new good friend...or a good new lover....In the last case...use condoms EVERY time.

Believe me....If you discipline your self in not wasting money with "superfluous" or unhealthy things....not getting into the tourist or bar scene, you will be surprise how much you can do with that money in Thailand. If you get bored...get a teaching job, even not well paid, You will meet nice people... take your time to know the culture, the customs, no rush with important decision...and...who knows? Welcome to Thailand!

Out two biggest monthly expenses (other than food) are housing and my daily ice tea... We chose to live in a larger sized apartment (2 bedrooms so one could be a den/desk space) withing walking distance of everything in the Old City. That expense could be cut in half if we moved outside the ring roads. I love ice tea, but it costs me 60 baht a day to order two glasses of it with my lunch. That's more than I pay for the food itself! A 10-baht bottle of water would save $50 a month just on tea...

Sure, one 'could' live in Chiang Mai on $500 a month. But I wouldn't want to.

If you like tea so much like me, but you are worry about the cost.....Go to a local street market where "ordinary" people buy goods, and ask for the cheapest Thai tea " Number One Brand", red, green, or yellow type from 60THB for 400 grs. I think is better than any expensive tea on the market...and so good that I am sending to my friends in the US and I pass that info to many "high class" Thai people that never knew about. You have to brew it your self in a coffee or tea maker (350THB in Big C) and you will have tea for months.

Thank you for sharing this.

This was the point on a posting about corruption few days ago. That 1%, with that kind of money can corrupt EVERYBODY, EVERY COUNTRY, EVERY ARMY...and corruption now is accepted in our global society like a normal way for ordinary people to increase its income. To reverse this Global mentality is the challenge for the new generation ....but..sincerely... I do not know what generation will do it. At 70, no mine for sure...after voting for a CHANGE in a country that becomes more corrupted and unequal than ever....and try to be the "example" of Democracy and Justice.

Look on the Thailand DBD web site. www.dbd.go.th

It is in English. Takes notes and go to the local DBD office to ask about. You may be lucky and found an English speaker employee with good disposition in helping you. If you use outside help may cost you a lot of money you can save. To register an individual or limited partnership company is not a BIG deal, and cost not more than 1500THB and can be done in the same day..or two. Just bring the info about the business porpoise, personal documentation, and a hand draw map of the business address. After that, you can visit the tax and VAT office, if necessary. After registration at the DBD, somebody will visit the place of business. No bribes asked, no problems here, but may be different in every province.

Only a Limited Company or Corporation registration will require an attorney office help and bank and taxes statements, etc, etc, etc.

Own experience.

DON'T DREAM YOUR LIFE.....LIVE YOUR DREAM.....

Thank you for sharing the link. I agree with most, even if do not know much about other Asian markets, I think cannot be easier and cheaper than here to open a business, and that may be the reason why Thai people open and close businesses so easy and before doing any serious research.

My opinion.....

Many people said that Thailand is not ready to share the Asean market, and they are right, but that is exactly why Thailand is a good place for business related with the Asean market. Even languages teaching schools may be a good business more than it is now, because without English, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, even Portuguese languages knowledge the Thai professionals cannot compete with the ones from the Asean countries.

The Thai Government is giving funds since 2012 to all Thai elementary schools to hire ANY English and Chinese speaker....but salaries are not good.

I believe that very soon that will change, and the Thai government will partner with private companies in that programs and others, to get leveled with Asean countries. Abut Thai talents?....Young Thai university students are really bad in languages, but I met some computers savvies here that will beat any from the US... Training people for the Asean market is the challenge here....and it is a big opportunity for foreigners to get into that now...

About the money?....Here, now, with $5000/month you can have a lot better life than in the US or Europe with $20,000/month.....and with a lot more chances in making $20,000/month here and not there.in any GLOBAL independent business.

Yes....you will need to have the right Thai contacts and partners...but that will be a condition in ANY "3rd world" country...Believe me..I am Brazilian..

By the way...Do you know that McDonald is not more an American company?....In 2009 was sold to a Brazilian company for $14billions..next?

I know...Thai is a surprise for some of you..specially for the ones from the US....But...sorry....the world is changing......

Then there is the other side of the coin. A Thai wife married to a Thai man will cheat with a farang. I'm no "hunk" by any means, but have been hit on by attractive Thai women about 40 yo or so who are married. Never took them up on it. I like breathing in and out.

Happens with me too..and always will happen specially with farangs..in any country, but here, to date a married woman is a suicide adventure, for both lovers. In western culture, infidelity is a path to divorce, here is a part of marriage. Anyway.....I posted this question because I saw many Thai men talking freely about affairs, even charming other women, in front of their wives....and doing things that I cannot comment here..I was invited many times by professional Thai married men to go out with them to karaoke bars full of prostitutes.....and with wives knowledge. I come back home alone..them...the next day.

Thailand is the #1 country in the world when HIV is contracted by wives and children because spouse behavior.

I think that is a down side of their culture.

I think that is a downside of their culture. You think?

I doubt that those stats are realistically knowable anyway. In any case, the high incidence of HIV/AIDS in this country is a good reason not to 'nork jai' your wife here and not to sleep with any prostitute or anyone else's wife for that matter.

I know about this situations for some years now, and may be just a coincidence, but my wife have a beautiful young friend I met months ago at a party. She was alone, and I asked if she had a boyfriend or husband. My wife responded that she got HIV from her husband and now she is divorced. She looks good. Any man will date her if do not know or do not care about. Anyway.....Be ready to be shock...because I did when I knew, and probably few people know about this.

I was teaching in a village's Government elementary school in 2011. I had many conversations with the Thai English teacher working there. She told me that are many kids HIV+ in the school, and that only the Principal knows about because they cannot refuse or discriminate them by Government rules. She said that most of the other kid's parents do not know about.. I was surprised by this....

Sincerely, I do not know how Western countries schools deal with that. My daughters are grown women now, but...sorry.... If I know that my kids are sharing the school, plays, and food with kids, infected with HIV I will be very worry....even knowing that the risk of getting the virus is not high, or that my daughters may had the same situation in Brazil and I was unaware of that......

Realistic information only make sense sometimes when we are part of the stats...and when is too late. I had friends is Brazil and the US dead already because AIDS......and I know that I just got lucky.

Oh no, you might be misunderstanding.

It's not so common here, just like everywhere in the world but naturally Thai women compromise too much and some of them lean on their spouses only.

They stay with them even they know their husbands have affairs mostly just for the sake of the children, not that they are happy about it.

They suffer, they cry like most girls in the world when sth like that happens and most of them break up or divorce in the end. (eg. my mom and dad)

That's the main reason why I don't want to be in relationship with Thai guys anymore.

My Thai ex-bf of 5 years cheated on me with his friend(she's my friend too) for a year without me knowing. You want "gik" or "mia-noi"? Go get one but without me.

I wasn't mad but I decided to break up suddenly, cried for one day and moved on.

it's common only in Thai soap opera...

Your comment is was the right response to my question. I am married with a Thai woman now. I do not cheat my wife and I believe that she do not do it neither. My experience about this topic was dating and talking with many Thai women, single and married, during 3 years.The single ones I dated always believed that I was dating other women at the same time, even if I am not so young to do that. I am 70 y.o. When I was asking why they believed in that, most of them said that they were cheated when married, and cheated when single and dating Thai men. They said that was upsetting for them, but they never cheated their husbands or partners, and only divorced when the men actions were given them big problems.

Most kept the marriage or the relationship to keep the appearances, not to upset the children or the family, .....or not to "upset" the men. Some even met the husband's lovers. One live under the same roof with her husband's younger lover, some were abused by their husband or partners. I met other women in their 50's looking for a farang husband telling me that they do not care about sex, and they do not want sex, and they will not care if their farang husbands will have lovers during marriage. And I am talking about mid class educated women. One of them is 55 y.o, and at the present time is secretary of a province's governor. Another, 60 y.o is a School Principal. Sure, they said that was in their mind all the time to meet a farang to take them out the marriage situation, not a Thai, because with any Thai men will be the same. Another woman I met, in her 40's, was a lover #3 for 15 years of an important married Thai official before its die. Its wife and lovers met many times, and were present in his funeral. Another woman in particular still my friend. She is a medical doctor, 46 years old, amazing beautiful, with a 16 years old son, married with a high rank Police officer that rarely spend the nights with the family, and openly cheat an abuse her. She never cheated her husband, but she is looking for a farang in her age and same social level to get her out of that marriage....If wasn't for that I was married with her already. We never dated. She is just a good friend now. I love my new wife...and I hope will be the last one.

I was married 3 times before, in Brazil and the US.

And...responding to many other farang concerns and opinions here...this very beautiful young Thai doctor and many Thai professional women I met in the last 3 years, are using Internet dating sites to find a farang husband. These women are not looking for a foreign "sponsors"..they are looking for real love, because they believe that farangs are not "serial" cheaters. I may be wrong, but I think they are right, and that those situations are not common in Western countries. I never cheated my ex-wives in my country, because I do not wanted for them to cheat me, and I loved them.

That's why we got divorced 3 times....before the relationship was getting so bad that cheating may happens.

I believe in equal rights....It is a Western quality or not?