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Eric Loh
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The junta doesn't need to care; luxury of a non elected government.
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Thought the qualification vetting was done before the election. The EC did announced that they qualified and now they do not after the election. Mystifying.
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Prayut already has a prepared 'thank you' script.
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This thread has taken off to a different trajectory because of one man obsession with Thaksin and refusal to come to term with current political reality. The danger that this individual refused to acknowledge is that the establishment and the military are changing all the rules and eradicating oppositions like Thanathorn to continue their authoritarian rule and corruption and disregarding the separation of power and independence of agencies. Fortunately we now have a push back by a coalition of political parties and activists who are pro democracy and voters have made their voices heard with resounding popular votes for the pro democracy coalition. As for the thread, Khun Taptim is in his usual divisive style and trying to cause friction when they are none. Thanathorn knows all the dangers of being in politics and have spoke out against the coup and the military and even the constitution. He is putting himself in the front-line of attacks and persecutions and there is no question that he is the real deal. To even suggest that he is a political opportunist is inscrutable.
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2 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:So for you it's perfectly ok that a super rich business man does corrupt politics to get a lot richer as long as he gives enough crumbs to the stupid people so that they vote for him again?
Judges decide if someone is guilty or not according to evidence. There is more than enough evidence against Thaksin. He should be in jail even if he did a few good things for the people.
Anybody who is pro Thaksin is pro crime and pro corruption. And you call that democracy? That would be laughable if it wouldn't be so sad.
Who divided the Thai people more, Thaksin or the military? Imagine Thaksin would have gone to jail for his so called honest mistakes 20 years ago. And imagine a honest leader would have been elected who cares about all Thais and Thailand. Democracy, freedom, no coups, it could have been wonderful. But stupid people vote for the criminal again and again because he did also something good for them. Disgusting!
Absolutely disgusting and I should say hypocritical that you never talk about the blatant junta corruption and that they have been dividing the country since 1932. How else can they remained dominant without creating division and killing off those who opposed them.
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3 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:What exactly is the "pro-democracy coalition"? The criminal Thaksin, the people who work for him and the people who want to have a piece of the cake? That is the pro-corruption and pro-criminal coalition. It has little to do with democracy because there is only one leader who decides.
Even the basic, you have difficulty in understanding. Pro-democracy is allowing the people the freedom to vote and choose their leaders. Like minded parties formed the coalition to seek the answer from the people whether they prefer a military coalition that will appoint a non elected Prayut who has rigged the election into a non level playing field or a coalition that will form the government with the mandate of the people. You talk about criminal coalition and you turn a blind eye to all the criminal acts by the junta to intimidate pro democracy politicians and activists. Just where is your moral judgement.
4 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:I guess many of us have a view similar to our surrounding. I live in the middle of Bangkok. Last time I checked my part of town was deep blue Democrat party.
i live in Bangkok too and has never change my democratic view. Universal suffrage is my belief and seizure of power via coup is illegal and to be condemned. Don’t you?
4 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:about the military: They cleaned up the streets and removed the violent criminal red-shirts and the MiB. They also r
5 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:f Thai democracy would work and if honest people would be in charge then there would be no reasons for coups. But as long as criminals are in control it's good that the military removes them if necessary.
emoved the corrupt Shinawatras two times. These facts are strong facts pro Prayut.
The establishment with the military and their politician allies created the chaos as pretext for coups. Yes Thaksin is corrupt and he has been charged, assets seized and on the run. No pity for him but he has brought empowerment to the people and good policies and it’s up to the people to disown him by electing him out. Only those who fear his popularity chose to take him out by power and guns.
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17 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:Have you heard about the Democrat Party and Abhisit?
Obviously they are far away from perfect but at least they don't work with the criminal.
But you should know this if you live in Thailand. ????
I think YB is right that you don’t live in Thailand. If you do, you know that the Dem and their relationship with the military in the last decade. Even after punished by their supporters for their closeness to the military, their leaders still sprout intention to be in the junta coalition. They prefer to work with the criminal junta government. Why they don’t work on the side of the pro-democracy coalition is because their leaders know they will never win any election and thus will clink to the coattail of the establishment to have a chance to be in a government.
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52 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:It's farcical here really. Even if he has 3 speeding tickets. and his mobile phone was tracked as being in that vehicle by route and time, it proves nothing. Even if you accept he was in the vehicle and it was him with the phone it proves nothing regarding the actual date when the shares were transferred.
Unless the EC have the transfer and are questioning the truth of the date.
What transfer date and what truth BB. You sure like to make it up as it comes conveniently to your narrative. The EC just took the petition of Srisuwan who quoted news report from an agency as the only evidence. They make up their mind to charge Thanathorn without giving him the chance to explain. In just a short time, the EC has already charged him.
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7 hours ago, webfact said:
Thai private sector lowers 2019 export growth projection to 2.1%
This kind of news will unnerved all elected government as they have to answer to the discontent of the voters and needing to seek the endorsement of the people. However this non elected government will not have the same kind of worries and they will continue to gain wealth regardless.
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What about no minimum wage and let the market decide based on supply and demand. Countries that have no minimum wage seem the most prosperous and low unemployment. Allow workers to unionize and let them negotiate a fair wage.
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2 hours ago, scorecard said:
True, the applicable Thai law says the PM cannot have other jobs, and IMHO it should be that way, the good people of Thailand (or any country) have every right to expect their chosen PM devote all of his / her time to running country.
Quite positive you being sarcastic considering Prayut has another job as singer and song writer. However if you meant chosen PM, Prayut is ruled out.
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28 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:
I don't think the EC are or were ever expected to actually count any ballots themselves. Their job was to ensure rigor in all processes, procedures, and ensure voting was carried out in accordance with the relevant laws, political parties and candidates abide by the relevant laws, and to ensure the counting of all polls in all constituencies was carried out efficiently and effectively.
They were hand-picked to do that, given a sizable budget, allowed overseas research trips, and had plenty of time to do so.
I think the fruits of their labors are there to be judged by all.
We have judged and concluded that the EC is non independent and tool of the establishment. You agree?
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kind of oxymoron for someone rich beyond his earning ability to suddenly has empathy towards the poor and downtrodden indebted peasants. Maybe he has seen the light and start a go fund for the poor and setting an example by auctioning his expensive watches. His other rich generals will follow suit.
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7 hours ago, webfact said:
The ministry will, however, propose its economic-stimulus package to the Cabinet today.
Stimulus is a short term fix. Longer term need more structural changes like an elected government for a full 4 years uninterrupted term.
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23 minutes ago, laocowboy2 said:
In a new announcement the government apologized for the repeated errors and confusion surrounding the election.
And stated that in order to avoid any repeat, there would be no further elections.
Please don't give them any idea.
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1 hour ago, BritManToo said:
School fees have to be paid now, you can't save up for them.
My son's government junior school wants 6-10k in the next few weeks, and my daughter's uni fees are around 12k, not a problem for me, but the locals have extreme problems finding that much.
Shame that the government couldn't provide for free school frees for the primary education. Singapore and Malaysia provide free education including school fees for primary education. The budget allocation seem out of whack favouring the military.
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2 hours ago, Cloudy said:
How does anyone even know he’s on holidays.
Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa ConnectHave not seen his holiday photos in his facebook. Maybe check the Mekong River for mysterious drum.
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1 hour ago, sammieuk1 said:
Cant understand why I don't believe him or it could be the big ring and yellow tunic doing it????
The yellow tunic is his allegiance suit. He never got harassed nor his property vandalized by goons like Ekachai. Sure he has been called to report to the army barrack and he lodged complaints of military corruption to divert his actual agenda. He has always being friend of the establishment.
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47 minutes ago, allanpatty said:
As has been said before, the junta and its leader have learned from how neighbour Hun Sen deals with opposition !
Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa ConnectIt’s the other way round. Parties were banned in perculiar circumstances long before Hun Sen got the idea in latest election.
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7 minutes ago, seajae said:and it turns out the tally was wrong again and the democrats actually won it
Just a small mistake. We forgive you EC. You always have been fair and just.
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45 minutes ago, Dogmatix said:
I am sure a lot MPs who have won seats could be debarred on the same grounds, if there was a detailed investigation into all of them. I guess it is up to the other side to do this.
PPRP fielded 500 candidates and won 97 seats and a possibly 22 party lists. Most of the candidates are from the business sector and it will not be hard to fathom that should the investigation is fair, some of them will be in the same situation as the 11 FFP candidates. I am sure some may have registered their business activities in number of areas including media so they don't have the hassle of doing the registration again. I can understand that as I do the same by broadening my intended business activities that may or may not happened. PPRP targeted 150 seats so I guess that they are sore winning only 119 seats and will go out of the way to secure the rest of their target.
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29 minutes ago, billd766 said:
Absolutely correct. So far I have only heard about PT getting carded, having one connected party dissolved, yet nothing seems to happen about ANY MP of the pro junta PPRP.
The current has had nearly 5 years to rewrite the constitution in their favour, redraw the election boundaries in their favour, stack the election in their favourm yet they still have to fiddle with the election results as they couldn't win fairly or honestly. Granted that honesty, integrity and transparency cannot be found in most politicians worldwide and certainly in Thailand in the last 80 odd years.
It fills me with despair that they believe that they can run the country.
It fills me with despair too that they rigged the election and continue to use their cronies to interpret laws to their advantages and destroyed opponents. As though the intimidation and harassment of candidates during the election were not enough. Have a read at how low these criminals behaved.
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Just now, Baerboxer said:
And if/when he does, we shall all be waiting with baited breath for your apology to him for accusing him of being a Junta puppet.
I will take you up on that. If Srisuwan don't lodge the same complaint with the EC, can we conclude that he is a royalist and pro-junta?
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8 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:
Read the OP without those rose-tinted glasses. The social activist who had lodged these charges against 11 FFP politicians says he's gathering facts on pro Junta politicians he suspects of the same error.
In order to be threatened with disqualification for the same reason i.e. owning shares in a media company, you do actually have to own shares in a media company!
I will be waiting with bated breathe that Srisuwan will be that courageous as well as stupid to lodge compliant against any PPRP candidates who have association with registered companies and in the DBD's registration form has a long list of business which include media.The same complaint he leveled on the FFP candidates.
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7m Thais at risk of severe stress: health chief
in Thailand News
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Quite sure the Generals are the least stressed. No war to fight and inexhaustive opportunities for wealth and power.