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Piichai
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If that's the best argument you have, it's pretty weak.here's your urban legend ...
Excellent. Thank you. Makes it much easier for those who think to research and find out about it. Appreciate it. If we can kill of these most ridiculous urban legends like this one and the "paid mobs" we'll make rational discussion a lot better. So you've dropped the stupid notion of the "registration at the entry gate" for paid mobs, so progress is achieved. Now.
For the hard-core unthinking lemmings who would love to take urban myths to the grave, I guess these won't mean anything to you. To anyone more curious about what's true and/or factual, try Bangkok Pundit, a totally switched-on authority:
http://asiancorrespondent.com/18314/thaksin-paying-protesters-500-baht/
And consider an anti-Thaksin scholar who notes the myth-spreaders can't speak Thai (obviously)
http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2009/04/20/the-crushing-of-the-red-shirts/#comment-644943
And even after those, don't believe a word I say, and don't accept the sources I give, and go and find out for yourself other sources to discover what this video says and what it means, and why the urban-legend spreaders cut the video to 74 seconds so you couldn't know the context. Get your own translation, not mine (and certainly not the horrible one on the video).
Everyone with brains, please use them.
The rest, carry on with the ridiculous stories you spread. But be careful of accepting drinks from strangers because a lot of people lately have been drugged and woken up in a bathtub of ice with a kidney missing. Don't even try to doubt it.
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In other words, Thaksin was saying :
I will work for you for free: I dont need to be paid even the 500 Bht (which Id be entitled to under Abhisit scheme).
Could easily be:
I will work for you for free: I dont need to be paid even the 500 Bht (which I have to pay you to show up).
IMO, what's most telling is the look of absolute embarrassment on his face; he's realized he got caught screwing the pooch.
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SOURCE? "Recently reported" doesn't cut it on a rumor-free forum.
Recently reported at Army Club.Anyone know the whereabouts of PM Niwattumrong?
TVF. Do try to keep up!
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My money is on some one with the initials AV and answers to the name Mark...
Gotta admit he's the only one who came up with a framework for reforms...
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All these people being summoned ... are they allowed to decline? what happens if they just say "no thanks" ??
They are subject to arrest.
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Noppadon on the list, could not have happened to a nicer guy.Can someone tell me who is actually in custody right now from the opposition groups? Suthep I assume, but what about the fake monk?
The Mad monk was nabbed yesterday, there is a list of the 114 people the General wants or has some place. Looks like he is sticking them in room till they make some sense between them. This could be a looong process
There are multiple lists and the 114 is but one.
Considering the number and size of the lists, one should think these are more than just party leaders.
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link pls?
Chalerm got the cuff yesterday.But where's Chalerm? He's the one I want to see most rounded up...
Check yesterday's Live Feed.
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Military had shown a sign of change over the past 7 months. I truly thought the military would provide the security, force political parties to negotiate, find a happy medium set of reforms, and quickly implement an election. Unfortunately, the Army chose the path of old, outdated methods to deal with its people.
I guess you missed it when Prayuth held meetings for two days, and Thaksin forbid the PTP & UDD to compromise.
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I have a strong feeling it is not going to be as cut and dry as it seems.
The general knows how to play a dangerous game and win. Concrete reforms will be implemented, with transparency, and then there will be elections. I expect a five year ban on a wide swath of people on both sides of the fence will be part of all that. It's a shame General Prayuth probably will not initiate a lifetime ban for certain offenses, like corruption, but that I believe is inevitable in SE Asia, where everyone simultaneously wants to benefit from corruption and do away with it.
Then the man in Dubai will establish new connections, set up a new party, and the game will repeat itself.
Because neither side wants to implement changes that would limit their own power in the future (a problem enjoyed by all sides in democracies worldwide), I see this as a limited duration peace, which is dreadful. I welcome it, but regret it will be a short-lived brainchild.
Five years isn't enough. Let's hope they make permanent bans part of the reforms.
And no more MP immunity!
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Well, that didn't take long.
Good job!
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But where's Chalerm? He's the one I want to see most rounded up...Thaksins boy for rent is going to have to take one for the team
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Ah he was the one that brought the box of money to bribe the judges.. I can't remember if he did any time for that ?
Anyway its good to see all the PTP liars and cheats rounded up. He is a big liar.. so is Kittiratt and so is Surapong, bringing out false news all the time.
Chalerm got the cuff yesterday.
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Anyone know the whereabouts of PM Niwattumrong?
Recently reported at Army Club.
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The Army is, in fact, the arm of the PDRC.If you don't want to incite violence make bloody well sure all sides are treated equally and the PDRC are dispersed also. Failure to do so will only enforce the thought that the army are just an arm of the PDRC.
Then why did the Army detain Suthep?
Do you think they're having a party over there?
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PDRC Jubilant !,
Screams the headlines.
They won't be so jubilant when the people get the chance to vote again!
It's not about the elections...
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WHY ISNT SUTHEP IN JAIL???????????????????????????????????????????
Relax, Francis.
Right now Suthep is chatting up Thida.
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That's what they have been telling us for nearly a year. And we don't even know what the reforms are. Nobody in a high position here likes a democracy. And you belive a good way to start any kind of reform is to forbid people to criticize it
Thailand didn't have a democracy before the coup. And there's no hope of having a democracy unless Thailand establishes a democratic landscape.
What a sad perspective on democracy. Do you know how many people that have managed to settle their disputes at gun point?Perhaps the leaders of various groups have just learned that now is a time for working together to end the current situation.
One won't get far negotiating with someone if they criticize them as well.
This will not improve things, quite the opposite.
Hopefully they can accomplish that with reforms.
Reforms are to be negotiated by all interested parties, not dictated by one. First the framework must be established.
While Abhisit proposed a reasonable framework to begin the process, it was stonewalled by PTP & UDD.
The Senate gave them another chance, but PTP & UDD stonewalled again.
Now Prayuth is having a go. But still PTP & UDD couldn't do something for the good of the country.
There most certainly will be changes, but one wonders if PTP will be part of them.
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So this is what living in North Korea feels like.
North Korean go-gos are considerably less fun.
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What a sad perspective on democracy. Do you know how many people that have managed to settle their disputes at gun point?Perhaps the leaders of various groups have just learned that now is a time for working together to end the current situation.
One won't get far negotiating with someone if they criticize them as well.
This will not improve things, quite the opposite.
Thailand didn't have a democracy before the coup. And there's no hope of having a democracy unless Thailand establishes a democratic landscape.
Hopefully they can accomplish that with reforms.
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In Prayuth's world, around 75% supported martial law.
One should think slightly less will support Prayuth assuming power; after all, Prayuth did take the soaps off air.
5555 Mixed results on the lakorn, I think.
But yes, Prayuth starts out like all junta brass with a certain good will. But only inside Thailand. This time around, it is going to be a total shutout from abroad. No one is going to support him, and even inside Asean he is going to get criticism and pushback.
We'll have to wait and see, but I'd be willing to bet it won't be that bad.
Foreign intelligence agencies have an understanding of what's going on. They know what the Reds have been doing. And without regard to Kerry shooting from the hip and using the C word, I suspect the State Department will do a little research before making any decisions.
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Methinks Prayuth is gonna make the mother of all Unity governments with this assembled rabble.
Either that or he's going to lock them all up until it's all over
Either way sounds good to me!
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Oh man. And they were doing so well. Guess they couldn't resist the cookie jar once they got so close. This shows that no progress has been made or is planning on being made in politics and the military can basically take over whenever they want to regardless of laws or government.
Way to prove all the critics right! I was hoping for so much better.
What are you talking about? This is progress Thai style. The naughty children have been throwing tantrums for the last year. Finally the adults sit them down and asked them to behave. When the children refused they were sent to bed without their desert.
I aplaud the general for the balsy move a few weeks before his retirement. This is the example of duty to the country and its people. Thailand would have been a better place if more of its leaders showed the same.
When you put it that way it sounds much better. And I think that from that angle you are completely right.
The martial law thing was fine and a good idea, which I also applauded. But the problem that I just can't get over with the coup is the fact that they completely tore up the constitution again. I am afraid that they will again take sides and setup an unelected government in favor of the elites' agenda and make "reforms" that will dissolve their political opponents and let them remain in power despite the will of the people.
The reform process was going to change the constitution anyway; Prayuth's actions just make it easier.
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Richard Barrow @RichardBarrow · 2 นาที
[ThaiPBS] Former acting PM Niwatthamrong has arrived at the Royal Thai Army auditorium in Thewes pic.twitter.com/2vGuMRQQ45 #ThaiCoup #Thailand
Where's Yingie ?
Singapore!
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Richard Barrow @RichardBarrow · 2 นาที
[ThaiPBS] Former acting PM Niwatthamrong has arrived at the Royal Thai Army auditorium in Thewes pic.twitter.com/2vGuMRQQ45 #ThaiCoup #Thailand
Maybe Thaksin can start the government in exile...
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This extraordinary period in Thai history continues to set a new pace, as developments unfold quickly. Trying to sift through the news is the main challenge, and trying to verify such reporting in other publications is an added challenge. What we do know is that the Senate is functioning, and that is a key indicator and a very promising one at that. The courts similarly. It will likely take a number of days before things become clearer. The first aspect of the administration of this coup is clearly to secure control. Once that has been established, some path will likely emerge. But it is remarkable the change that has already taken place.There has been no violence or resistance. The PDRC remains jubilant.
stunning synopsis of what everybody already knew, scamper, master of the bleeding obvious. In case you hadn't realised most people can read the news for themselves without you reiterating it for them
Rather rude and uncalled for but not unexpected
on another note - maybe I missed it but I haven't seen the ex finance minister Kitirat mentioned on any of the lists
Kitirat is on the list of 100.
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Has Oak been taken in already? I don't recall seeing anything mentioned about him.
devaram Jatuporn is already detained, after yesterday's meeting.
Don't know, but Oak was not on the list of 100, IIRC.
Ex-Thai PM Yingluck reports to coup makers
in Thailand News
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Is that the best you've got?