11 hours ago, cornishcarlos said:

 

It's a tough one... 

Who looks after the kids, if parents are working frontline care jobs etc ??

Doctors, nurses, emergency services.....

In the UK schools have been closed EXCEPT for children of 'key workers'.  These children will attend school as normal.

14 minutes ago, Silurian said:

 

Yes, including Thai people in Bangkok. Most of the ones that I know either have a filter system of some sort or boil their water first before drinking.

 

FYI - The tap water in Bangkok has past WHO drinking standard since 1999.

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One thing you should know about Bangkok is that it is a relatively safe and healthy place in which to travel, unlike many other less developed Asian cities.The Bangkok Metropolitan Waterworks Authority claims that it is safe to drink the water in the taps in Bangkok and that it meets the standard established by the World Health Organisation.

However, this does not necessarily mean that the tap water is safe to drink, especially for visitors. Although the water that is produced by the water authority in Bangkok is perfectly drinkable when it leaves the plant, it will usually travel through old, dirty and broken pipes before it reaches your tap. This is how the water in Bangkok can become contaminated and not safe to drink.

Even though you might see locals drinking the tap water this doesn't mean that as a visitor you would be able to stomach it.

http://www.discoverbkk.com/travellers-tips/can-i-drink-the-tap-water-in-bangkok-thailand

Firstly, you need to find out (I don't know) what the accepted format of a CV is in Thailand.  It may be quite different from what is usual in the West.  I've written and helped with many CV's in the UK but I wouldn't attempt it in Thailand without doing a little research.

News reporting here, for example, is the opposite of reporting back home.  In the UK, for instance, an article will start off with the main headline explained followed by the detail.  In Thailand it's the other way around. (Thai reporting that is, not English language articles)

A good CV would have the main summary on the first page.  That is, SELL yourself up front and leave the detail in the pages following.  It's very easy to produce a front page of nothing but basic information.  That will usually get 'filed' and the following pages never read.

As I've said, that may or may not be appropriate in Thailand.  Speak to one or two of the main employers here.

28 minutes ago, metisdead said:

18) Social Media content is not to be used as  source material unless it is from a recognized or approved news media source,  the source of any such material (Twitter, Facebook  etc.) should always be shown.

Thank you.  I understand that to mean that links to YouTube is quite valid if the original source is reputable.

Question answered, I think.

To wear a mask or not.  There is a vast 'cultural' difference between the west and east.

In the west, people are discouraged from wearing masks as being next to useless and causing shortages of masks for health workers.

In the east, the situation is the opposite.  Wearing of masks is not only encouraged but stigmatised if you're not wearing one.

In the first group, the west, lots of evidence is shown proving that not only are masks unnecessary, they can actually be detrimental to your safety.

In the east, although there is no evidence supporting wearing a mask, the attitude is "Just because there's no evidence, that's not a good reason for not wearing a mask!"

Source:https://time.com/5799964/coronavirus-face-mask-asia-us/

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Germany

Coronavirus Cases:

21,483

Deaths:

73

Recovered:

209

 

ACTIVE CASES

21,201

Currently Infected Patients

21,199 (100%)

in Mild Condition

2 (0%)

Serious or Critical

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Feb 15Feb 18Feb 21Feb 24Feb 27Mar 01Mar 04Mar 07Mar 10Mar 13Mar 16Mar 19010k20k30k

Show Statistics

CLOSED CASES

282

Cases which had an outcome:

209 (74%)

Recovered / Discharged

73 (26%)

Deaths

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2 minutes ago, Logosone said:

Ahuh, still a death rate of 0.27.

 

Not exactly a huge mortality rate, is it?

What utter rubbish.  Germany has over 20,000 active cases and 209 recovered.

How many of those 20,000 are going to recover?  Mathematical nonsense.

12 hours ago, AussieBob18 said:

I look at Germany and I see a country that is 'bucking the trend'. In Germany there has been 13,979 confirmed cases and 42 deaths - mortality rate of 0.3%

That doesn't hold water.  You can only give a mortality rate when everyone has either recovered or died!

37 minutes ago, noone223 said:

he keeps the goatee on for the ladies in soi 8. they said he's sexy like that.

I shouldn't think so.  He's already married......... to his American boyfriend.

7 hours ago, MikeN said:

Reading between the lines of the story in the “unquotable paper”, he was able to steal the weapons because they were stored complete, and with ammunition, in an insecure facility.

 As I mentioned in another thread, standard practice during my military career was to store the bolt mechanisms in one strong room, the body of the weapon in another, and ammunition in a completely separate location. All were kept locked and required 2 sets of keys, which were kept in 2 separate safes. So virtually impossible for anybody to gain access to the weapons illegally.

 Obviously the RTA don’t have the same sense of security.

Makes perfect sense.  My sister belongs to a gun club in the UK.  The gun remains on the premises and she has to take the bolt home with her making the gun inoperable.

I must say though, that when I was involved in the Indonesian confrontation back in the 60's, there were no such checks.  Weapons and ammunition were there for the taking.

4 hours ago, christophe75 said:

 

The ability of many to just forget the facts, is really fascinating.

 

First, you should re-read History... Just 100 years ago.... The "spanish flu" pandemic.

It's really interesting.

 

Second, how can you discard the proof we have under our eyes :

-the cruise boat in Tokyo

-the "Singapore cluster"

-the "french cluster" (1 british guy who went to Singapore then went to a ski resort in the french Alps)

-the "german cluster" (just 1 woman from Shanghai with no symptoms infected 6 or more people, one of them then became the first "spanish case".)

 

Plus the utter disaster in Wuhan (even if we discard rumors and hysteria, ground zero is a real disaster, nothing less, despite all the chinese propaganda)

 

... All those facts should make us "modest".

 

This virus could be "simply" the 21 century version of the "spanish flu".

 

And in that case we won't be able to contain it.

 

And it will kill.

 

A lot.

 

As for the -totally idiotic- argument "just 40 cases here it's nothing !".... Is it necessary to repeat that... at one point in time... Wuhan too had only 40 cases ? !

 

Such a lack of basic common sense is really striking.

 

Why Bangkok, or Tokyo, or Seoul would be different than Wuhan ?

 

Explain it to us ! Enlight us !

 

Bangkok pollution ? The PM 2.5 ? The smell of som tam ? The magical effects of tom yam kung ?

 

Do you believe that the virus thrive only among "Wuhan" people ?

 

Do the inhabitants of Wuhan have something different than you ? Or the inhabitants of any other chinese city for that matter ?

 

In 1918/1919 people were unable to prevent the spread of the virus...

 

Do you seriously believe that in 2020, with a population X greater and all the movements worldwide... we could ?

 

What matters is the health system.

 

And its ability to cope with the number of sick people.

 

With 40 cases, sure no problem. We can save most of them, or even all of them...

 

But the problem is the tipping point. The exponential function is difficult to grasp for us....

 

"Imagine a large pond that is completely empty except for 1 lily pad. The lily pad will grow exponentially and cover the entire pond in 3 years. In other words, after 1 month there will 2 lily pads, after 2 months there will be 4, etc. The pond is covered in 36 months.

 

If I asked you when the pond would be half filled with lily pads, the temptation would be to say 18 months – half of the 36 months. In fact, the correct answer is 35 months. Right before the pond is filled, it’s half filled; because it doubles the next month."

 

At one point, the health system can't cope anymore... No more beds. And doctors and nurses are infected and/or exhausted. The people are told to stay home... Or are parked in "stadiums" (converted in "field hospitals").

 

Then the killing machine starts... at full speed...

 

This is exactly what is happening in Wuhan, and other cities in China...

 

So, how many serious cases, with accute pneumonia... the Bangkok health system can handle ? Hum ? How many real "isolation rooms" do we have ?

 

And.... what about up country ? This question is... rhetorical....

Thank you.  You have just proved my point.

The majority of cases will recover and most in just a few days.  The 'at risk' group are elderly and people with pre-conditions.  Of course there are exceptions as in any situation. This would apply to most viruses.

Hundreds of thousands of people in this part of the world are wearing masks needlessly causing a shortage for people who do need them. i.e. health workers.  Hysteria is spreading quicker than the virus itself.

I'm not sure whether to call this 'The forum of hysteria' or 'The hysterical forum'

4 hours ago, Matzzon said:

You can also think that the foreigner that did not accept this was acting in a selfish and ignorant way.

He was being far from ignorant but just following advice from pretty much all the health authorities, even the advice from the WHO in Thailand no less.

The ignorance was on the so called health minister.

There is no requirement for the 800k/400k to have come from abroad.  There is however such a requirement for income.

17 hours ago, rooster59 said:

But those who are feeling sick, who have been with sick people or who have been in an infected area should wear masks. 

 

In this sense wearing masks is being a responsible member of society, he said, in comments reported by Bangkok Biz News. 

His first statement above is okay, but then he goes and spoils himself with the second sentence.

'A Thai doctor'!  Wouldn't take much notice.

Not sure about other banks, but with Bangkok Bank, you don't need to go to the branch holding your account.  Regarding the same day update, when they produce the letter they automatically enter a 0/0 transaction to show the current date in your book.

On 2/8/2020 at 11:20 AM, Sheryl said:

Thus far there are very few confirmed cases in Thailand though of course this could change since the incubation is fairly long.

 

You are in far more danger of an accident on the road coming from the airport to town than you are from coronavirus.

 

And the plane ride is of some potential concern depending on its routing and passengers. If in economy masks are a good idea and above all scrupulous hand washing especially after using lavatory (and hand sanitizer after that). Your biggest risk is if there is an infected person on the plane with you.

 

I personally wouldn't worry about a public taxi from the airport but it is true that a private car would likely have seen less passengers. 

 

I can't update you re air quality in Bangkok as I am nto there now, see what others say. And rememeber it flunctuates from day to day.

 

 

Make sure you have your 'flu jab.  It gives around 60% protection and you are much more likely to catch that!

Note: Sorry, I meant to quote the OP not you.

36 minutes ago, LetsCleanUpTHAILAND said:

The WHO doesn't make sense. They say the make is for caretaking an infected person or similar. they also said that there's NO evidence that the mask protects. So why where it? viruses (and bacterias) are almost as small as PM2.5, so a hospital mask wont work. You have two jet streams of contaminated air flowing under the bask into the side of your mouth. Best to use a pollution mask because they form a 360 degree seal around your mouth and, therefore, are used for purification. Secondly, "general public"? So being in a crowded city area or on the BTS is where infected and non-infected general public are but the mask isn't needed? Loads of people cough without covering their mouth. So we should just inhale their mystery virus? Sounds like roulette game of "What's that virus?" Is it common cold or Conora? What do you think of the WTO's contradicitons? 

 

If you're in close contact for extended periods, i.e. caring for a sick patient in a room, then wearing a mask along with other precautions should be taken. Also any 'germs/bacteria' you have will not be transmitted to an already sick person whose immunity is probably low. It's also said that a sick person with a respiratory illness will already have difficulty breathing and a mask would cause them extreme discomfort and could exacerbate the symptoms. These are not people that are wandering about in public. But the mask used alone will not protect you.

It does make sense.

45 minutes ago, christophe75 said:

As usual those "experts" do to make any sense.

 

On one hand, there is this kind of gross propaganda, and on the other, there are facts.

 

The press in Singapore does an amazing work....

 

They publish the details... for the 40 cases !

 

And when you read, then it's obvious : this virus is no joke, the way its spreads, viciously.

 

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/novel-coronavirus-cases-in-singapore

 

I would love to see this article in... the thai press...

Also from the Straits Times and their PM:

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But fear can do more harm than the virus itself. It can make us panic, or do things which make matters worse, like circulating rumours online, hoarding face masks or food, or blaming particular groups for the outbreak.

 

Outside the epicentre of the outbreak in Hubei, the death rate is so far only 0.2 per cent. In comparison, seasonal influenza has a death rate of 0.1 per cent.

 

 

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/fear-and-panic-can-do-more-harm-than-the-coronavirus-says-pm-lee-hsien-loong

3 hours ago, saengd said:

I think we agree but you made my quote appear the opposite of what I actually wrote: I was pointing out that core inflation has been almost flat for the past five years, base prices have barely risen in that time so no, things are not that much more expensive. But of course imported goods are more expensive as are items that are not in the core inflation basket of goods.

 

As you say, it's important for people to distinguish between the loss of home currency value and inflation, they are not the same thing. A bag of sugar cost 45 baht five years ago, today it costs 48 baht, that's inflation. If the Pound was worth 55 baht five years ago and today it's only worth 39 baht, that's not inflation even though it costs a lot more Pounds to buy that same bag of sugar and it is far more expensive, that's loss of home currency value. So when expats here are complaining about the rising cost of living and inflation they are not really complaining about that at all, they're really complaining about currency strengths and weaknesses, from a Thai persons perspective there's no real issue per se. (for others....the prices and values I used are only to make an example, please don't post and tell me my sugar price is wrong).

Sorry, the system attributed that quote to you.  I realise that it wasn't a direct quote from you.  I was just taking the phrase from your post because I'm lazy.

Sorry for the misunderstanding.

9 hours ago, ThaiTony2 said:

those that handle and prepare food be required to where industry standard hand protection, such as gloves. 

How many sous chefs wear gloves.  Gloves are not required if food is to be cooked after prep.  Washing hands is essential when moving from say the preparation of food to cooking.

Do you ever see cooking programs, recipe vids etc etc with gloves on.

People serving 'ready to eat' foods need to wear gloves or use tongs.

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There currently are no requirements for glove use in food service establishments, but, a “no bare hands” policy is recommended for handling ready-to-eat foods (e.g. sandwiches, salads). Gloves and utensils (such as tongs) can be used to minimize bare hand contact of food.

Yes, one of the Thais came with the 138 evacuees. The two other Thais had contact with tourists.  Out of the 4 Chinese, 3 were from families already infected and one from a 'risky area' in China.

2 hours ago, saengd said:

"most things are more expensive now,"

I would agree but only from the retiree/residents here, especially from the UK which has seen the GBP dive since the referendum.  Other home currencies have also lost value, including the US.

In baht terms, prices have probably risen less than most other countries.

If I was still getting 60 or 70 baht to the pound, I couldn't complain about prices here, but the fact is that my income has been decimated by the exchange rate not about rising prices.

54 minutes ago, sadeghsep said:

 i think he is right , everyone has to wear mask specially in crowded areas , we can't protect ourselves till everyone do it , free your mind from all those news that they say mask is not effective it's the least thing we can do  whatever you think it's dangerous or not because we don't know anything about the situation so let's not risk 

We know a great deal about the wearing of surgical masks.  This is not a new phenomenon but has been enacted for decades.  The comments of this so-called health minister feeds hysteria.

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Health experts generally agree masks are useful if you have respiratory symptoms or are caring for patients.

But the World Health Organization's own Thailand office tweeted a graphic on Feb 4 stating masks are "not needed for general public who do not have respiratory symptoms".

 I'll stick with the people that know.