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Witnesses, circumstantial evidence, DNA, etc will likely be enough to convict."He said police had backed their investigation report with witness statements, circumstantial evidence and forensic evidence."
We were told for a long time there were no witnesses..... magic, all of a sudden?
Circumstancial evidence? In a murder investigation?
We all know the forensics are not worth any tissue they are scribbled on.
I sure hope their defence lawyer has not been bought, and tears this case to pieces.
I will agree with you on this one JD.
I'll even go so far as to say that No witnesses, No evidence and no DNA will likely be enough to convict.
I fully disagree with your assessment.
There is no evidence, no DNA & no witnesses.
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Luckily this case has got too big for the case not to go to trial. But because of the high profile nature of the case and all of the investigative flaws and torture allegations not yet contested I very much doubt these boys will be found guilty.
The trial just seems like a means of 'going through the motions' to appease the parents. The final sentences from the article seems to imply this. It's pretty certain that there is insufficient evidence to convict but the RTP can say "we tried but were continually hampered in our efforts by internet conspiracy theorists" and conveniently put the case as "unsolvable".
It is almost inconceivable that the judge will convict. The outrage internationally from press alone is something the junta won't risk. The scrutiny they're under so far has shown huge cracks start to appear in many different areas. They certainly wouldn't welcome any negative backlash. I might be completely wrong but I just can't see the Burmese chaps going down with the 'evidence' as is
I really believe the Junta don't give a shit about international outrage. They live in a nice little bubble, which is impregnable (in their eyes). Economic consequences are nowhere near as bad as losing face.
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An article about the injury that lead to his death
http://www.espncricinfo.com/australia/content/current/story/803763.html
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Pol Gen Somyot Phumpanmuang has got the brassest of brass necks!!
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When will TAT ever understand tourists?
The drop in tourism is not based solely on the political situation. That is what made people examine Thailand more closely prior to planning a trip here.
Until the Thais offer real smiles instead of smiles for the money spent and until the police stop being gangsters and until Thailand offers cleaner,and safer travel destinations without exhorbant price increases for foreigners then tourism will slide even more.
They could also clean up the garbage and rats and stop dumping sewage into the Bay. Thailand really shows that it's 3rd world.
More like turd world
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<The father of Win Zaw said the police doused the pair in petrol and threatened to set them alight.> Quote
If karma exists, I hope those coppers will burn in hell!!
If someone did that to me, I would admit to a session with Jimmy Saville and the Krankies!
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<The father of Win Zaw said the police doused the pair in petrol and threatened to set them alight.> Quote
If karma exists, I hope those coppers will burn in hell!!
If someone did that to me, I would admit to a session with Jimmy Saville and the Krankies!
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"DNA results from the four state hospitals in Bangkok -- Police General Hospital, Ramathibodi Hospital, Siriraj Hospital and Chulalongkorn Hospital -- now show that the two men are not involved with the murders and so it is unnecessary to forward the DNA results to the British government because it had no doubt about the investigation being conducted by the Thai police, said Pol Lt Gen Prawut."
Wanna bet?
The UK press will be all over this.
There's an election coming up.
One the Tories could very well lose and see their treacherous coalition partners destroyed as a political entity.
They will do whatever it takes to get favourable ratings.
And good press.
Is this a big enough story in the uk to sway votes?
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There are so many people that believe this whole episode is a complete sham......including me.
The RTP appear overly enthusiastic to have these results in the media as soon as possible to "prove" there investigations.........and to have a press meeting, with the father and son at the table, indicates to me that they are desperate to convince all, that they are right.
The BP website carried a picture of the son holding up the finger from which blood was taken and a doctor / medical technician displaying the paper used to collect the blood.
Pure theatre and childish but totally in keeping with the way things are done.
To be fair the whole society is based on childish behaviour etc. Just look at the tv, with all the boings and stuff. ALL thai channels are snowed out in my house. Unwatchable dirge imo
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Wouldn't it be amazing if in a few weeks/month the British govt suddenly play a trump card and blow the Thai faces out of the water. Slowly slowly catchee monkey!
Is there anyway that anybody can find out if we (UK) have DNA evidence from the victims?
Were they embalmed? Surely somebody must know this? If they were not embalmed then the Uk have forensics that can pick out alll sorts of DNA, including touch DNA
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This complicity must go right to the top! Outrageous really that a country can stick two fingers up to the international community & get away with it. Only sanctions from the UK, and a tourist blacklist will make these creatures take any notice
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Do you think he actually believes this horseshat that he spouts?
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JTH and/or jdinasia.
In any police-investigation, one of the first things the cops are looking for is motive!!
What possible motive would the two Myanmar guys have to brutally murder two complete strangers?
I don't buy the part about them being sexually aroused, because they saw someone making out. They are from the sticks i Myanmar, where sex isn't a taboo, they could probably get laid in their village for 20 baht.
They are captured on CCTV buying one beer each, so lets presume they were not drunk.
The very violent way in which the victims were murdered, almost in rage, to me looks like it was something personal. Commited by someone with an inflated opinion about his/their entitlement, and when refused/insulted have to get back, all in name of the all important face. And that in my opinion points somewhere else!
So just enlighten us about, what in your opinion would be the possible motive for the two guys to violently kill the two Brits!!
Theft and rape.
Yeh??? Theft at 2am when all tourists have their pockets stuffed with cash. Rape??? yeh when she is with a guy twice the size of the two Burmese guys
Not exactly the sort of scenario a rational person could envisage!
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I think it is time that any residents on Koh Tao to tell anything they know about that night - i know they wont tell the RTP due to mistrust but surely an appeal could be put out with an free english number to phone ( surely the parents / lawyers could do this)
I cannot understand why there is no conclusive evidence showing nomsod on the island( photos , witnesses seeing him in bar etc)
I am hoping that all British witnesses have told the police in england
I cannot understand why there is no conclusive evidence showing nomsod on the island( photos , witnesses seeing him in bar etc)
Have you considered the possibility that such evidence doesn't exists because he wasn't on the island at that moment?
No, there are a lot of cctvs that have not become 'available' for public consumption!
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You are the one repeatedly posting it, what is the source? Let me guess. Csila?
wrong, as usual
Source please.
hp or daddys?
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Doesn't prove anything when done in closed off room (24 hour time frame), with only Thai cops there, who are in on the original (set up) investigation, there not going to change anything, and lose face over this whole shame.
<deleted> it hang the kids and be done with it, lets all move on, the cops are never going to have anyone make a fool of them Ha ha ha , they've all been paid off to look the other way, we all know this, and I think now even the Thai defense lawyers know this also.
I think the Burmese will be released and then the case will slowly dwindle, and the real perps allowed to continue on their merry way
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Very very clever by the RTP. They now have the guilty party's DNA (Mongo & Dum Sod) and can now swap it with the Myanmar lads!
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We must all stay modest and cautious:it is a very difficult inquiry!No material proofs,no witness!!!!!
It would be a very hard work for any police...even a western one....
What on earth are you on about!!! take your head out of the clouds. There would of been loads and loads and loads of evidence if the police hadn't sabotaged the crime scene. There is still missing cctv, phone records, flight records & the 'little duck'!
Any proper police force would have had this sorted within a month, hook, line & sinker
Really Sherlock. That's why there are many unsolved murders on most police forces' lists of unsolved crimes. Many old "cold cases" now being revisited in light of technological advance such as DNA, with some very old cases being solved and the killer(s) brought to justice.
Solved in a month - based on what? You telling them who did it?
Take your head from where the sun don't shine. The police investigation file has not been made public so we don't really know what they have and haven't done. We know the crime scene wasn't isolated, that some officers made all sorts of comments and some posted inappropriate photos. Several leads / potential suspects were announced. Where these all investigated thoroughly - no idea, but the British Police will have now.
Police work isn't like all those wonderful American TV shows where the guilty get caught every week.
Yes, really, next!
In fact it should of been solved inside 12 hours! Put your brain in gear and think about it! Let me give you a clue. A Thai guy was caught VERY quickly in a scenario while not the same, has similarities!
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We must all stay modest and cautious:it is a very difficult inquiry!No material proofs,no witness!!!!!
It would be a very hard work for any police...even a western one....
What on earth are you on about!!! take your head out of the clouds. There would of been loads and loads and loads of evidence if the police hadn't sabotaged the crime scene. There is still missing cctv, phone records, flight records & the 'little duck'!
Any proper police force would have had this sorted within a month, hook, line & sinker
Really Sherlock. That's why there are many unsolved murders on most police forces' lists of unsolved crimes. Many old "cold cases" now being revisited in light of technological advance such as DNA, with some very old cases being solved and the killer(s) brought to justice.
Solved in a month - based on what? You telling them who did it?
Take your head from where the sun don't shine. The police investigation file has not been made public so we don't really know what they have and haven't done. We know the crime scene wasn't isolated, that some officers made all sorts of comments and some posted inappropriate photos. Several leads / potential suspects were announced. Where these all investigated thoroughly - no idea, but the British Police will have now.
Police work isn't like all those wonderful American TV shows where the guilty get caught every week.
Yes, really, next!
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We must all stay modest and cautious:it is a very difficult inquiry!No material proofs,no witness!!!!!
It would be a very hard work for any police...even a western one....
What on earth are you on about!!! take your head out of the clouds. There would of been loads and loads and loads of evidence if the police hadn't sabotaged the crime scene. There is still missing cctv, phone records, flight records & the 'little duck'!
Any proper police force would have had this sorted within a month, hook, line & sinker
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All they have put these two blokes through! And the only evidence they have is some dodgy DNA test done on the back of a fag packet! Disgraceful
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All the years of graft are taking their toll on this country.
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People eat meat. Some people eat dog meat. Why is it that people that are always going on about tolerance seem determined to force the world to adopt their ways? Next thing, they'll be going after the French for eating rabbits.
Yeh but eating dog meat is illegal, therefore there are no checks whatsoever on how they are transported to their destination.
Do you think these pics are an acceptable way to transports dogs 1000's of kms?
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No Suprise there, business as usual.....
Roll up roll up
To be fair, anybody going into a Tiger's cage deserves everything they get.
I once saw a tourist killed by an elephant, they just carried him away, washed up the blood and onto the next show.
I don't think people realise how cheap life is here & that all costs will be cut to create maximum profits. Health/safety/procedures are non existant
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Prosecutors set to arraign Myanmar men for Koh Tao killings
in Thailand News Headlines
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Because there is no evidence, no DNA and no witnesses, do you understand??