chang35baht

Prices are actually at the highest for a few years as far as I am aware.

As far as the purchase is concerned, 40 rai of already producing trees, with 20 odd years of production to come. Sounds like a no brainer to me.

The only snag I sniff(more experienced guys than me on this forum will perhaps confirm this or disagree)is that the income you`ve been quoted per month from the 40 rai seems a little low to me.

Good luck,

Chang35baht.

Welcome back Brahms, I,ve missed you.

When the trees are 50cm in circumference you can start to tap the trees.This is usually achieved when the trees are between 6-7 years old( if the trees have been reared properly). There is no real benefit in leaving the trees untapped until 10 years old, unless they have not reached the desired girth yet.

Tapping the trees to early can reduce the working life of the tree.

IMHO Mosha, you'll just be throwing money away by not tapping the trees when they are ready to be tapped.

Cheers,

Chang35baht.

Sorry. just re-read your post Mosha. Your already tapping some of your trees.So you probably know the above info already.

As far as I can make out the go to top feature has gone. Liked that.

Thanks for the replies guys. I'm still a year or so away from starting to collect our rubber. We have about 1370 trees.

Can you give me a heads up as to where I can look online or phone to get the day to day prices I can expect if I deliver to a local factory? Or are the price so different north to south.

This site I assume is more or less the FOB price. And I know I can't expect to get anywhere near these prices http://www.rubberthai.com/emag/test.php

By the way I'm up in Chiang Rai.

Thanks again,

Chang35baht.

By "at the gate" can I presume you mean at you own farm gate.

What would the price per kilo be for liquid latex(nam yang) at the gate, say?

Did you mean for cup lump(kee yang) when you quoted 44 per kilo?

Cheers,

Chang35baht.

Too many people reliving their youth on large motor bikes and having accidents recently. When in their native countries they didn't ride such machines. Protective gear is a must. The "hear hear" was my cheer for the call to wear said gear.

Suspicious lot aren't you!

I just want to see VF get his new bike, and some decent protective gear.

Then we can have a good day, riding some twisties....and leave all the bad day guys behind.

HERE HERE.

Maintenance. Spiking and sanding the greens only. Probably better to play at Waterford if your coming up for a visit.

Yer most of the Thai Police are cun_ts.

brown on the outside and red on the inside

hope your not looking in the wrong area.

Just saw Crossy's post below. Thanks.

Something simple I suppose . Why Can't I see who's browsing the TV forum???

Chang35baht.

Many of the police are just following orders. And in the same token many of the police follow the same line of thinking as the red shirts, only they can't show it. Army too.

"Have just been to collect my son from school and saw that a "Fleet" of Red Shirt trucks have blocked the road completely out side the police station....Trucks and cars 4 abreast and a long way back....Not a Police man in sight......

The Mae Kok army barracks are quiet with the army inside as far as I could see."

JAI YEN YEN DAVE, JAI YEN YEN.

The red shirts have not moved into Chiang Rai. The majority of people in the province are,I would guess. supporters of the red shirt movement. Not necessarily supporting the 1% who are only in BKK to make trouble.

There have been red shirt rally's at the Saemphu Hotel virtually every night for months. Red shirt supporters gathering to hear the latest news from down south via satellite link/ Microphone.

I too saw the gathering today between the 2 sets of lights either side of the police station. Took me 1 extra minute to get home only.

Situation normal at the army barracks at the Mae Kok. Even popped in to buy some golf balls on the way home. Only difference these days is you have to leave some ID at the gate and xchange it for a pass. Get back ID on exit.

Personally I don't think there will be any repeat of the BKK troubles in our province. I hope I'm proved right.

Only a few empty beer bottles at my local ATM booth. BLOODY TOURISTS, EH!!!!

C35B

Who would have thought that bread could cause such grief and heartache eh??

As Limbo already mentioned, ST is probably the best place in town to rent long term. Although, most of the guesthouses that rent bikes also offer monthly rental rates.

Welcome to Chiang Rai.

Good luck to you and the kids

C35B.

Wouldn`t have thought there would be too many pro Government protests ( is that an oxythingy) in Chiang Rai.

Is it a new YMCA??

How about this site? I`m currently in the Uk so don`t kow if anythings being blocked RE. the current turmoil.

Chang35baht

http://www.maxnettv.tv/index.php

Can Scorpio let us know the reason he required dry ice in the first place.

Well done to those who made the effort to find out where to aquire it for him.

P.S. Kandahar, I remember you saying a while back in one of your posts that you didn`t speak Thai. You must have been on an intensive learning course with all the asking around that you`ve done on this task/topic. Good for you.

Cheers,

Chang35baht.

Good news Brian. I`m very happy it was resolved in your favour.

Maybe a lesson learned and a heads up to future house purchasers (or any purchase of similiar amounts) not to put any deposits down until they`re sure of the finance being approved

Coming from the Overbrook hospital towards the police station, turn left at the police station junction.

Coming from Pizza company/ Night Bazaar towards the police station. Go straight on at the police station junction.

From Bahn Mai market towards the super Highway. Turn right at the lights/junction just past the market. Go straight and it will take you over the bridge to the police station.

C35B.

Hi Kandahar. Is there a monthly download limit on this service? Ie 3Gb, 5Gb

Thanks,

C35b.

Hi Brian, I see from some of your other posts that your proposed house is in Sinthanee. Is your contract for the purchase of the house with them for a new house? Or is it with the owner of an existing house on their estate?

I also notice from your previous posts that you thought you had bought the house already and that you were expecting to move into the house on the 22nd.

Were you under the impression that you already had confirmation of the finance for the house from the bank? I ask this because details like moving dates are normally only discussed after all financial details have been ironed out.

If you could Let us know who (without naming names) you actually paid 430,000Baht, maybe we can help you more.

Also,430,000 is a strange amount for a deposit. How was this amount calculated. Normally, deposits would be rounded off to 1,2, 300,000, for example, if the sums of money involved are large enough

Let us forget the banks for one moment. Has your wife signed any sort of contract?.

Let us know how things are proceeding Brian.

Good luck,

Chang35baht

I find it laughable (and yet sad) that anyone thinks that this topic shouldn’t be discussed on this forum. I find it offensive that anyone thinks they can bully someone else that chooses to post about their legitimate experience with this topic on this forum.

This forum (definition in this case: an open meeting for discussion) has rules and the rules haven’t been violated with the topic of choice. Some would offer up their own rules and expect others to obey. I’m not sure what their credentials are for trying to assume this role but I am certain that they are overstepping their bounds. The forum doesn’t belong to them. It isn’t their personal page. But it appears that some have decided that they own it and that they will choose who is right or wrong in making posts. They are, of course, wrong in doing so. We have moderators for that. If someone unjustly attacks this fair city or its inhabitants, whether Thai or Falang, then perhaps a quick rebuke is a good thing. If someone points out some disparaging components of the culture (payoffs, BIB, Gov., driving rules or the lack of, and many other things that we weren’t subjected to in our other lives), then I see that pretty much as a discussion point that might help me or others to adapt or understand.

I have noticed on the CR forum that certain people can post as often as they like about any of their pet issues, hobbies, fetishes or pastimes and are left to do so in peace and yet others, who offer up meaningful topics of DISCUSSION (as opposed to the DICTATION of the aforementioned) are likely subjected to ridicule and condemnation.

Some of these old threads get added to and updated constantly, by the same wagging tongues, with exceptional amounts of blah, blah, blah. I happen to notice that for the most part, the threads that have that curious large amount of input also happen to have an exclusive, small number of posters. This leads me to believe that those threads are of very little interest to the majority of forum users. The interests seems pretty much confined to that select, very, very few. In those postings, I personally find a form of vanity in the posts that I find offensive. The dictation, or monologue, meant to be taken with seriousness, is lost on me: He who lives in the glory of the deeds of others loses his opportunity to make his own good mark on the world. While the glory of his champions might live for generations, he won’t be remembered or missed and his time on earth is, most sadly, lost.

I couldn’t give a rat‘s butt about those topics or any of the information found therein. However, I also choose to ignore the threads. They don’t concern me. I find that some of the topics deal with the accomplishments of others in matters that don’t matter. While I’m bewildered that anyone would waste their time (and money) caring about such things when they could much more easily spend their time actually contributing to a better world, I have to stop and realize that different things make us tick. Their windings aren’t wound like mine (Hardly any are, I know). But I don’t spend my time attacking those posters. Let them post their nonsense. Let them take the deeds of others and find a personal relevance in it. To each his own. I don’t get it. I never will. I’ll just focus on what I do get and not waste my time or theirs by arguing my point. I won’t even bother with replies that address the vanity that is so apparent. That isn’t what the forum is for. And for those that find those musings to be right up their alley, then THEY have found the forum to be what they wanted. And the rest of us leaving you alone in your small world without ridicule or criticism is our silent pardon and forgiveness for your character flaw. You’re welcome.

On to another point. The forum is referred to as the “Expat forum”. Actually, in Thailand, it is referred to as THE Expat forum. It is the go-to source for info on living and dying here. True, a lot of postings are about the negative things we experience. At the same time, it is good to post about the negatives and help others avoid those traps or circumstances. What might be a common sense thing to avoid for a person from one country and background might not even be on the radar of a person from another set of experiences. What one person learned and how it was handled, is often very helpful to others. The way in which one person handles a negative experience might be a quick ticket to a butt-kicking. So, reporting, discussing, lending critiques and offering support when dealing with the negatives adds to the quality of life.

Concerning Thias reading this “Expat” forum and finding the Expat thinking to be offensive, I’ll say this: My wife has a keen interest in this forum. She is an educated Thai. Her family (also educated) has a keen interest in this forum. They know how we see things here. They don’t find it offensive. They know what happens here. They know that it is a part of the culture and they know it isn’t as bad here as it is in other parts of the country. They ARE embarrassed by the negatives that we, the Expats, experience. They experience it themselves and that is just a part of life to them but they are REALLY embarrassed when outsiders are subjected to improper experiences here.

We discussed this particular thread and here is the result- Do they think we should write about these things? Yes. They want others to know what to avoid in order to lessen the damage to the name of the country and especially, CR.

Do they think we should call out a salesclerk or shop owner who is separating us from more baht than they should be? Yes, and they see us as stupid and easy if we don’t figure up the bill ourselves AND diligently count our change AND notify the boss if there is a discrepancy. They say that is the only way to fix the problem and we‘re making it worse when we don‘t care or we let it slide for other reasons

Do they see us as stupid? Yes, but only because we let others take advantage of us. They say it is common knowledge that the Farang is stupid on that point and it is a common discussion point among locals. They point out that when one of us lets someone get over on us, it only encourages the likelihood of it happening to more of us. They tell me that it happens to EVERYONE in this culture and NOBODY should let it pass if it can be addressed. The Thais lose money to this type of nonsense from a few bad eggs if they aren’t careful and we Farang lose more because we aren’t careful or are too shy to mention it when it happens. And in the eyes of a small percentage of the population, we have “Steal from Me” stamped on our foreheads and we ought to be very, very aware of that.

The last question I asked my family concerning this thread, (though they have mentioned this issue before, after reading other threads in the CR forum) is what general sense they got from this thread. The answer, unfortunately, is that they just do not understand why the Farang are so hateful to each other or how we can say the things to each other that we do AND do it publicly like this. AFTER reading what the haters said, they asked me “Don’t these people know that some Thais read this? Why do they say those words to him?“ They didn’t think the OP was out of line at all and in fact, said that they hope newcomers read this thread early in their experience with CR. They really are proud of the fact that CR isn’t as bad as some of the other areas and they want CR to get better, for the good of all, but especially to attract more foreign income. The topic of the thread wasn’t any big thing to them; just another aspect of life in Thailand. How we treat each other IS a wonder to them. As many posts as there were in this thread, the hater’s posts are what this family remembers and will be talking about.

To the Thais reading this, I say, “Yeah, we’ve got some real jewels amongst us. But in your reading, you have also seen lots of good here. And yes, some of us know to count our change and to figure the bill, just as you do. We’ll continue to live here, keep our eyes and hearts open and just as you do, we will learn which of the locals to avoid and which to embrace. You can continue to read our forum and you will know the same about our group".

To brahmburgers and villagefarang, I say, “You guys are a few of the contributors that keep this thing interesting and actually add some good discussion points. I see that after particularly nasty responses from the usual suspects in the past, you guys have just bailed for long periods of time. This thing is as much yours as it is theirs. Lots of people just sit silently in awe when it hits the fan here. I’m usually one of them. I usually just don’t know how to respond to such behavior on this forum. In fact, sometimes I just log off and forget about it for a while. But this time I won’t. Get in here and get back to posting the good things that you post that actually give us cause to discuss something. Help to make this more than the one-sided crap that a small minority of others would have it be. Believe me, I’m not alone in my thinking.”

Please forgive any typos. I'm in a hurry.

Thanks Kandahar, funniest post I`ve read in a while