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I guess we may never know what really happened.

I for one don't believe the story that it was shot down by pro-Russian rebels.

Then why are there recordings and videos of the missile launchers being hastily removed and driven away?

How do you know they were pro Russian rebels?.... Could have just as easily been Ukrainians.

Only the Ukrainians had something to gain by this. The BUK launchers are also already equipped with technology for identification of a target. As far as the other poster is concerned.

I too don't think it was the Russians or the rebels. I think it was the neo Nazi fascist Ukrain government that is peppered with super right wing activists who have openly declared that they will stop at nothing until every Jew and Russian is off Ukraine soil. They are also being assisted by the US State department who want Russia taken out before it crashes the USD and the US economy.

Trust me..... 2015 is going to be a very interesting if not incredibly dangerous year for the world.

Personally, I would be at a complete loss if I didn't have my facebook newsfeed regularly bombarded with what Thais are eating at the moment.

Torture is not putting plastic bags on a suspects head. Torture is inflicting serious amounts of pain with hot irons, finger crushing pliers and beatings with clubs. This was just a Thailand style interrogation.

You could not be more wrong. There is a thing called mental torture and to admit to killing two people when you didn't actually speaks volumes that this form of torture must have been pretty bad.

I suppose you think the water torture isn't real either.

How did the DNA tests come out? Oh... yeah... Thai perps.... never mind. "A rule that is not enforced ceases to be a rule". Seems to apply regarding murder of farangs in Thailand. Many Thais too, of course.

The DNA does not prove murder in this instance.

It simply identifies the weapon that was used to stab the German.

There could be a reasonable explanation why the weapon needed to be used.

Self-defense.

Yeah, right. There were only five of them and the guy was unarmed. So stabbing him was more than justified.

Hate to say it mate, but your defense of any Thai accused of any crime, borders on delusion. Keep it up if you want, it's good to have alternative opinions aired, but you've reached the point of making yourself look a bit silly, and it reduces the effect of any valid points you might try to make.

Don't bother responding to ClutchClark. He is simply trolling to get you to respond.

He has similar pro-Thai views on the Koh Tao murders. He is about as anti-westerner as you can get.

Some members in this community don't really contribute to the discussion, they merely abuse the board for their own little mindless entertainment in trying to upset as many other members as they can.

Unfortunately every forum has them.

If people want to hold these forums and meeting etc... They should be careful of how they name the theme.

I found it a very good strategy to use certain buzz words in the title to make it look like the Junta are completely against 'democracy'. So I would have titled the meeting 'Democracy, and its effects on freedom of speech'.

That gives the outside world a clearer view of what the Junta are destroying in Thailand in a systematic way.

The use of 'democracy or Democratic' in all of these forums and meetings will sure be a headache from the Junta who do not want to be seen by the likes of the UN, EU or human rights organisations as dismantling democracy for their own ends. That is sanctions territory and they know it.

Just my twisted thoughts on the matter.

Selling CD's found in the trash. Sentence: Almost 2 years in jail.

Trading in human bodyparts: Released!!

This has to be the most screwed country on the Planet!!

We aren't any better in Europe. Tax evasion punishable with up to 10 years jail. Murder and rape only gets to 4-6 months for first time offenders...

Go figure

I'm interested.

Which rape and murder cases were punished with 4 to 6 months in prison. I would like to see that. It is quite a remarkable expose.

In the UK I was under the impression that rape was standard 2 years first offence and murder was 30 years both sentences liable to one third reduction for good behaviour.

I am sure that there are lesser penalties for extenuating circumstances, but on the whole the above is pretty consistent.

Also with the time off, you are out on license meaning that if you so much as return a library book back late you are put back inside to serve the remainder of your term. I know this because my mate got 3 years for robbery and served 2 and has that one year sentence hanging over him like a sword of Damocles for the rest of his life. He often says he would rather have stayed in and finished it while he was already serving time rather than have that threat hanging over him for the rest of his days.

The wife ran out of fuel once and I took fuel (1 liter milk container) to get it running and drove to station to fill up ( less than 1 kolimeter) They could not get 43 liter into the tank even with my urging. This is just a little background info for all you doubting thomas

That is an old scam. The pump attendant doesn't zero off the pump when there is a few litres registered on it from the last sale, and you pay it a second time and that is his skim. I believe they have something on the nozzle so that when it it put back on the latch it doesn't close the filling session.

Disgusting and symbolic of the fact that people have no bottom level to which they will go to get money.

Rest assured if the police bothered to investigate this, the parts would not have been obtained with the permission of the parent/s.

Always I think ,why now why did they not tell anyone 30 or 40 years ago?

Because they have been dragged out of the woodwork by The Mirror and Sunday People newspapers which are about as anti-Conservative and pro-Labour as you can get in the British media. They love to drag this sort of thing out at a time when the Tories don't need bad press, such as before a by-election or general election which we have both coming up.

But that is not to say it is fiction, on the contrary, probably 99% fact. It is nothing new, it has been going on for decades.

Don't just take my word for it, please take the time to listen to this radio interview with Michael Shrimpton (author of SpyHunter). Who is anything but a fruitcake conspiracy theorist, in fact he is a barrister in law and ex- intelligence and national security consultant who has the contacts and keys to many a private door. Probably the most well informed source for this sort of sensitive information.

Here he talks about Jimmy Saville, Ted Heath and the sexual assault and murder of kids on Heath's yacht as well as what happened to Madeline McCann, Robin Cooke, Princess Diane etc.... Very revealing and disturbing indeed.

He also goes on to explain how German Intelligence (GO2) is behind a lot of this.

This video goes much more in-depth. It takes about 4 minutes to get going but just jump ahead 4 minutes (in two parts)

I do apologise. The second video is in three parts.... not two.

So technically the victim just needs to be put in the ambulance and it drives off, and that is no longer classified as a road death in Thailand?... So what is it classed as??... Medical malpractice?????

So if they released the figures of everyone who actually dies as a result of a road accident, then probably Thailand will be number one on the list.

Also, why does Mark Kent have to comment like it is the fault of British tourists for the DISGUSTINGLY BAD Thai road death numbers? God I hate that guy so much. Just sort out the deaths of British tourists in Thai resorts rather than occupy yourself with tourists not wearing crash helmets. The actual reason why they don't wear them is that they see so many Thais not wearing them and assume it is not illegal. Which is what i first thought when I came here 5 years ago, including seeing up to four school children per bike no older than 14 riding without licenses straight past policemen at busy intersections in rush hour.

Politics and justice in action......laughable really.........

Reform.............probably no word for it in the Thai language

So three have already been not only granted immunity from impeachment, but also are allowed to vote in a case where they have 100% conflict of interest.

Well done again Thailand. Showing the world that corruption and cronyism is still alive and well at political level.

I feel for the Thai people who have had to suffer this for decades and will continue to suffer it until some other country eventually invades the place and takes over.

Because that is what it will take at the minimu7m to fix Thai politics.

Yawn!

Every constitution so far has been Thailand's 'last'.

Spare the 'more bullshit'.

The job will never get done.

It all depends really on how much they can get out of the coffers before things start getting a bit warm regarding discrepancies etc..... Then and only then will they give up the trough to the next bunch.

I reckon 3 years and they will all have enough to retire to their own south pacific private islands.

Well the border guards must have been in on this. It is nigh on impossible to get a vehicle through the border with fake number plates, and you can hardly walk a kidnapped person through immigration without the alarm being raised.

I would say that this probably smacks of involvement between police and immigration to relive this guy of 100 Ml baht.

They will still be in debt to the bond holders and when the interest is paid on maturity of the bonds they will be more than 682 Bn in the hole.

Surely freezing all liquid assets of the Shin clan (all of them) and seizing all hard assets will make a nice big hole in the debt, then they can go through all the assets of the PTP MPs and seize all 'unusual' wealth.

Well this is decent news, only MPs but still a delegation.

According to the anti PM posters He and Thailand are BARRED, but he/and TFM still keeps meeting up, and doing normal business.

Now some news worldwide are not favourable, and some are and here is a non rebuff.

You seriously believe everything you read in the Thai press?

Sounds more to me that they came calling because they had concerns that the Thais had no real answers to.

You are clinging to the Thai side of the story. There won't even be a British side to it, they don't gob off to the press whatever they were talking about behind closed doors.

Different breed of politicians. They only disclose what affects the British people directly and nothing else.

Welcome to Thailand, a new Myanmar in the making.

Surapong said more losses were incurred by that scheme and asked why those two were not being impeached.

Is this guy sniffing glue or what?

Those other schemes were subsidy programmes, and are designed to cost money and 163 Bn over a seven and a half year period is quite acceptable as a subsidy scheme for such a huge industry. that is about 21.7 Bn a year.... Then Thaksin Yingluck turned up and racked up losses of 518 Bn in just two and a half years. That's 207 Bn a year.... Ten times the cost of other governments.

Who introduced the policy?.... Yingluck government.

Who was in charge of the country?.... Yingluck Government.

Who made themselves chairman of the rice policy commission?.... Yingluck

Who is immediately responsible for the Yingluck government?..... Yingluck.

So Surapong... You are not the only one who wants justice for Yingluck, we all do.. If justice is actually done for the first time ever in this kingdom, then expect Yingluck to be swinging from a lamp post.

I wish this was Colombia, she would have been executed along with all her cronies before the end of last May.