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I think this is going to get out of control.
These days people are totally organised and there are groups who are intent on making this a massive turning point.
The police 'I think' are going to have no other choice as to embark on wholesale slaughter and martial law to control the situation around the country.
To be perfectly honest. The US cops have had it far too good with this constant immunity.... I can't say I blame these folks. but it should not be fought on the platform or racial division... It should fought on the issue of the judicial system and the police with their 'far too' disproportionate response to many situations.
If the authorities are not willing to do anything.... Then the people must push them.
I don't agree with indiscriminate attacks on neutral people and premises, but the police, government and the authorities?.... go for it.
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As a quick example...
Myanmar expected growth 7.8% and on target.
Laos 8.3% and on target.
Cambodia 7.2% and on target.
All this with very little tourism compared with Thailand. The reason I use tourism as a massive advantage for Thailand is that it is by far the most lucrative income for a country that has almost zero outbound deficit. It is almost pure income for the economy.
I can see Thailand becoming the sick man of ASEAN, it is already the political sick man, soon it can become the economic sick man. When the AEC kicks in, Thailand will soon see that things will be getting a lot tougher. A far cry from all the spouted BS that this country will dominate the AEC.... On the contrary, it will be the whipping boy.
Thailand to the AEC will be what the UK is the the EU.
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Sounds like he is getting in early to clean up on free foreign businesses when the junta starts to seize them for thais with the new legislation and rules. Tesco should sell up fast and run before they are gutted.
Check out the business press in the U'K,. as to why Tesco may be up for grabs.Nothing to do with the proposed Thai laws.
Gross mismanagement and dubious accounting profit forecasts
They actually took the piss out of the consumer for too long and took their eye off the ball while Aldi, Lidl and Poundland came into force.
They tried to dabble in all sorts of business sectors not traditional to a supermarket such as banking, insurance, electronics, fuel etc.... So they could pull the rug out from under the feet the entire High St in one go and it backfired.
But anyway... Back to Thailand. Tesco would never get into bed with CP over here, they will either sell up or let it go bust. They would not sell the name.... if they sold to CP it would have to remove every trace of Tesco from the business.
Tesco will sell everything foreign to save its home market first. I am not sure CP could afford the entire Tesco operation including all its Express stores. Tesco is not Makro. It is much bigger.
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Pathetic.
It is becoming increasingly clear that this whole thing is a sham from end to end.
The junta have run out of ideas and are running around like chickens with their heads cut off wondering what the hell to do next.
They react to every little thing instead of putting their foots down and just getting on with the job at hand.
Why not just allow the entire public to have their say in reforms, why not build a website like TV and run a massive national forum?
The students are not stupid, they know you won't listen to, let alone implement a single idea of theirs.
Looks to me like the Junta are running scared and that they seem to think they are going to be brought down by a bunch of students and a silly Hollywood three finger salute.
They really are showing their Achilles heal/.
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What a load of old tosh.
No amnesty will bring happiness to the people.
When a country is as polarised as this place, when you make one group happy, you make the other angry. Completely self-defeating.
But sits perfectly with this country's backward thinking.
Also.... What the flook has any of this to do with drafting a constitution anyway?...... Nothing. So what the hell are they doing making suggestions on things that are not in their field of responsibility?
They should be more concerned with the constitution and make sure it completely protects TRUE democratic principles, not one off treatments here and there.
How about starting off with something really simple.
Vote buying to lead to instant party dissolution, anyone selling their vote, banned from elections for 20 years.
Anyone obstructing election campaigning to be banned from voting for life.
Anyone engaged in voter intimidation to be banned from voting for life.
Any civil representative (headman) found forcing a community to vote a certain way to lead to immediate suspension of duty and the party they tried to promote suspended in that constituency.
Any proposed amendments of the charter must be submitted to the constitutional court before it can be put through a parliamentary vote.
MPs to be impeached instantly without the need for a vote if they break ANY rule of democracy..... No stupid 3/5 senate vote.
Any politician or civil servant under investigation for corruption to be immediately suspended from all public duty until they are 100% cleared of any wrongdoing.
No immunity for politicians while in office.
No coalitions where the ruling party has a majority from an election. (very important).
All crimes against any principle of democracy to carry a mandatory 10 years minimum prison sentence with no remission or pardon and all assets both liquid and hard confiscated permanently.
No parliamentary voting on behalf of absent ministers. Lifetime ban and 10 year prison sentence.
No person linked to (by family tie or marriage) or any person who has previously and publicly had a political preference published can become a senator.... Senators MUST be 100% politically neutral and completely unconnected with politics.
Any person in public office who has been found to have received any monitory or otherwise 'gratuity'... 10 years prison and all assets seized. Life ban from any public role.
There ya go..... That will start you off.
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corruption to a scale of billions of baht.
granted bail.
words fail me.
Well if they are on bail it is a lot easier for them to arrange the cash transfers to pay for their special justice system treatment.
All quite logical really.
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He's got Ebola and he hasnt reported?
He's probably dead guys.
D'oh!!
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he never had it in the first place,
knows he has no symptoms
suspects the reason for the concern around him is his nationality............... and the hue of his skin.
Really?
Why was he singled out when he was travelling with 10 friends?
Probably because he was running a high temperature which is what they do to monitor it initially at the airports (including the US).
So chances are your attempt at the race card falls flat on its arse.
What colour people do you expect to travel from Sierra Leone?
If he had the symptoms don't you think he would have been kept in quarantine?
Just taking him to a hotel and saying stay there.
Nah.
Not buying it at all.
You think the bizarre way Thais do things is unusual? I would say if Thais did anything that wasn't classed as unusual it would be bizarre.
Anyway.... It is not US who are saying he was 'suspected' of having ebola..... It is the 'authorities' themselves....... So?
Is it at all surprising that people are raising the question 'Why wasn't he detained until tests were proven negative'?
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There is no point in negotiating. It is clear what the Muslims want before they will even consider peace and they also have the silent backing of Malaysia if the truth be known.
I for one am amazed this terrorism has not been exported to the tourist areas on a wholesale basis. If you really want to hurt the Thai government and cause headaches, then collapsing their tourist industry would be very simple and effective.
Glad I live in a part of Thailand where i have not seen a Muslim in the 5 years I have been here.
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The defence minister said that the act of distributing leaflets against the NCPO could be carried out by only one person, as a poll has shown that the majority of the people does not agree with acts against the council.
Because according to Thai mathematics.... 10% of the nation is 1. So that means there are only 10 people in Thailand.
Glad we cleared that up. Now I want to ask why these other 10 people in Thailand always seen to be ahead of me in the queue at immigration.
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Phuket beach restaurant owners demand fair treatment.
We can prove that we have been breaking the law for 22 years, and so we are in the right on this issue and it is only fair to let us continue to break the same laws.
We are pig sick that we have paid lots of money in bribes over the years for the justice system to forget a beach is 'public land'. You can't stage a coup and then wake up to that reality.... It's just not the way it is done here in Thailand.... disgraceful to remove our ability to sell a 25 baht plate of krapow gai to farangs for 180 baht.
Now for a reality check.
If the fact they have been encroaching illegally for 22 years by their own admission is in fact proven to be true. They should all be immediately charged with running illegal businesses and bribery and handed 10 year prison sentences, and see how many more come out of the woodwork with similar hilarious justifications for crimes.
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A price which is way less that what the Thaksin government paid for it.
Excellent economics....... For assured bankruptcy.
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He may be a monk, but he is still a man.
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I remember reading something about how Thailand is stepping up and strengthening measures to counter the spread of ebola and that it is safe, secure... blah blah blah. And the DDC releases someone without FIRST making sure he is NOT carrying/inflicted with the virus??? And then trust he will report to the department everyday? Thailand... how can you be so, so moronically stupid??? What IF he is in fact infected, and in between now and when he is discovered to be infected, has gone to places like Chatuchak market, Asiatique, Siam Paragon, Central World and... need I say more? Seriously... I am truly amazed how stupidity here knows no bounds. Amazing Thailand indeed.
I agree totally.
If he was running a high temperature, he should have not left the airport until his blood tests were clear. That would only take 24 hours so a minor inconvenience. Then and only then should he have been let out into the population.
If this guy does in fact have ebola symptoms, then this place is an absolute paradise for the disease to get out of control.
There are many ways to transmit it here, even just in restaurants for example. Coughing into his hand and then handing money over to the server to pay for his meal. The server then preps someone's salad. Or server picks up tissue that he has been wiping his mouth on with their bare hands and then continue to serve other people, prepare their food, hand change to others... etc.
If two US health care workers can pick it up which wearing protective equipment and personally sanitizing themselves, then just general contact is going to spread like wild-fire and that is before he walks to Cowboy or Nana.
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He's got Ebola and he hasnt reported?
He's probably dead guys.
D'oh!!
Or
he never had it in the first place,
knows he has no symptoms
suspects the reason for the concern around him is his nationality............... and the hue of his skin.
Really?
Why was he singled out when he was travelling with 10 friends?
Probably because he was running a high temperature which is what they do to monitor it initially at the airports (including the US).
So chances are your attempt at the race card falls flat on its arse.
What colour people do you expect to travel from Sierra Leone?
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<slaps forehead> ...when dealing with something so potentially serious and life threatening, why are people given a choice about whether they are detained?
Mind you, I guess the Thai's aren't so worried considering they have a cure for Ebola now. Not sure if it's actually been tested yet however or whether they just made it up.
They made it up.
Don't forget within days of the news breaking, they asked for 1 Bn baht for further development.
We all know the vast majority of the cash would have been 'absorbed' elsewhere.
We are living in a country that produces dozens of stupid schemes daily that all have a budget attached to them.
How else can they generate the flow of money to steal from?
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Perhaps someone should take a look at Costa de Sols record lately, its tame here by comparison.
Look pal.... If you live in the Costa Del Sol, then please go and use the Spanish expat forums, this is Thailand and Thai forum. So stop attempting to justify murder as an acceptable norm just because murder happens elsewhere.
Now go and haunt another forum and post your evidence of 6 mysterious deaths on a tiny remote island as is what we are seeing on the tiny island of Kho Tao.
Koh Tao is NOT the Costa Del Sol.... It is tiny... so your comparison is completely disproportionate and therefore invalid.
By the way you are almost certainly pointing to the recent gangland turf wars between the Brit and Irish drug barons fighting over who runs what territory. Completely different, the Spanish are not hacking their tourists to death and throwing their bodies in the sea only to have their police and government cover everything up to protect tourism..
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Well well well - i guess most of us was wrong, looks like there are going to be some cleanup after all, good!
It will set a good example down the ranks. About time some of the big boys got named....
Let's hope the boys in green have the courage to clean up a bit in their own camp, as well
Yes... But this is probably an operation to relieve these cops of all their amassed fortunes to be distributed between the new boys on the block.
That is where all these assets will end up.
Same turd, different name.
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How about 10 years in prison which will automatically mean they can't run as a candidate in the future.
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So sad and unnecessary, all the death, destruction and harm. It's almost as senseless as killing a man for stepping on your shoe by mistake. If there's a gene for maturity, Thais got short-changed.
But it's all OK.... The Junta said all the problems in the south will be sorted within 12 months.
So everything will be fine and dandy I am sure.
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I think they are facing a recession.
There is a big difference between reality and what the Junta are allowing to be released.
There is a severe drought bearing down on Thailand at the moment, that will have an impact and then we have ASEAN AEC coming onto effect and Thailand is not going to do well there.
Then we should safely be into a global economic recession when the USD collapses.
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And don't forget that they saved Thailand spiraling out of control, that surely in the end would have led to a civil war.
Maybe that is what Thailand actually needs. A civil war.
It will be business as usual and an endless cycle of corruption ans demonstrating followed by coup, tearing up the constitution, trampling on the rights of people and on it goes. The rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer.
One preferred eventuality rather than civil war would be a full on people's revolt. To show these political puppet master that the people are the ones with the real power.
But this is Thailand.... We will get much of the same once people get into power it goes straight to their head and doors open to massive wealth.
The trough will always have snouts in it, at the moment it is green dressed snouts.
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Aren't there laws restricting alcohol sales now near hospitals, or such? I know on Sirimangkalajarn Road, near to Suthep Road there exists a 7-11 shop without BEER. The clerk told me 'too close to xxxx' and i think he said hospital, or mental hospital.
Really the only external method that could restrict alcohol sales would be massive taxes on every drop. Well worth it too, then funnel the revenue into education, etc. Another good idea comes from OZland where i hear of far-reaching and severe penalties for drink driving. One beer over the line and you are walking for 6 months. 2 over, walking one year. No escaping the penalties. I'm totally in favor of such near-draconian laws on alcohol and car usage.
I'm also somewhat sick of hearing all the moaning about the smoky haze caused by the farmers, and those health issues, raised by beer swilling expats sitting on the pub stools smoking the fags.
You can triple the cost of alcohol and ban cigarettes completely. It won't achieve anything at all.
They tried that in the UK and it failed there.
If people want to drink and smoke, they will.
It just drives the problem underground, and increases the illegal brewing which many police will have a stake in from collecting bribes to actually having these places run on their behalf.
Thisis Thailand. Your measures don't even work in the real world let alone this bloody world we find ourselves in.
Also the big business who drive the drink and fag industries here have so much influence at government level and line far too many influential pockets under the table your so called cure is not even remotely likely.
Also it is not fair on those of us who drink responsibly. You obviously don't drink or smoke,,,, Don't speak for the rest of us. Some of us still beleive in freedom of choice whether you like it or not.
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Islam won't be happy until there is full scare slaughter and bloodshed right across the globe. This being the religion of peace and tolerance. The world has to stand up against Islam. Forget the bloody political correct and wipe this evil cult of the planet once and for all.
Rubbish. I grew up in Kenya and the vast majority of the Muslims there are just as horrified by these attacks as is everybody else. Please take a look at the history of this other cult called Christianity that has slaughtered millions over the centuries. Or peaceful Buddhism that allows monks to call for the murder of Rohingya. Know your history before you post **** like that.
What a load of tripe.
I have also spent a lot of time in Kenya and central Africa.
This has nothing to do with the Christian crusades of hundreds of years ago in response to Islamic atrocities who are just as much to blame.
Chooka has a very valid point.
Muslim outrage is almost unheard of no matter where these things occur. You may get the odd muslim voicing disapproval but that is as far as it gets. The silent majority are more than happy to throw their silent support behind these incidents and you know it.,
We are not going to drag up history to justify this attack just like you have (yes, your mask slipped there). We are not living in yersteryear we are living in today's world.and no representatives of the Christian faith is slaughtering innocent people in the name of Jesus in today's world and have not done so for hundreds of years.
One thing I will say on Chooka's post is that before the world can stand up to this cancer, the Islamic world needs to take the lead and that is not going to happen, because they don't really want to stop the massive Islamic movement to dominate the world. That is the biggest issue for them, so they will silently tolerate this until that is achieved.
They have never stood up in outrage at any of these crimes against humanity.... Ever. But if someone draws a cartoon about Mohammed WOW!!!!!! The Islamic world goes absolutely ape.
So hanno..... Don't give us your crap. The Muslims are NOT horrified, it is par for the course to what they ALL want to achieve.
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He was clearly a potential whistle blower.... end of.
Almost in all transfers you get the reason, this time you didn't and now the guy is dead.
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Michael Brown shooting: Ferguson jury reaches verdict
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Did you not listen to all the witness statements after the incident that was blasted out across most of the media?
Are you totally unaware of the amount of police shootings actually caught on camera where the police are almost always given full immunity from prosecution?
There is very little justice against loose cannons on the police payroll. The people suffer, their families suffer the communities suffer.
This is a cancer that needs to be uprooted.... period. But like everything else, nothing will be done until there is a massive backlash and even more suffering.
Once again all the witness testimonies have been completely ignored.... So much for your fantastic view of the US justice system... It is corrupt beyond belief in favour of the rich and the police. The only people who face the full weight of the law in the US is the poor people and mostly blacks and Hispanics.... Don't even try to deny it.
So blatant is the US justice system's disregard for real justice that there are even CCTV and cellphone footages of police flagrantly shooting unarmed people in the back multiple times while they were surrendering.... result from your superb grand juries in almost all cases?..... Not guilty... Officers reacted within procedure....... My arse!!
There is little wonder that it is all blowing up in their faces now..... it's about time.
I suppose you are going to come back at me now much in the same way you whine about the people in your very first sentence because they don't share YOUR personal opinion.
Obviously unlike yourself, I have done a lot more research on this very issue than you yourself..... Youtube is your friend. Watch and learn, then come back.