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8 hours ago, Chiphigh said:Get over the moral preening and virtue signaling.
The only threat to the democracy is the ideological left deeply rooted in the bloated beauracracy that would purposely leak and lie to pedal an agenda.
The deep state conspiracy. The ultimate argument after all the others have failed.
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7 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:Plain and simple the leftist idea of justice is whatever suits them.
Yet It's the Trumpers who always complain that the people who are convicted should not be convicted, and vice-versa.
Oh, I see, It's because of the deep state, lol.
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4 hours ago, Nyezhov said:
https://dailycaller.com/2020/02/14/roger-stone-seeks-new-trial/
If, what has been set forth about the juror in question is true about her statements in voir dire, a new trial is a foregone conclusion.
Her statements in voir dire are in the article linked.
Stone’s lawyers knew that she was generally familiar with Stone, they knew she ran for Congress, they specifically asked about political bias, and then refused to seek her removal.
https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/is-there-a-stone-jury-scandal-not
According to the author, there could possibly be an issue only if she hid facts that would have provided a valid basis to challenge her presence on the jury.
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3 hours ago, mickey rat said:
Not to mention Epstein.???? But nothing to see here folks, business as usual, move along...????
Not to mention that the shameful deal with Epstein has been made by a Republican prosecutor in Republican state under a Republican POTUS. Prosecutor later nominated by Trump in his administration. Lol.
Jane Doe anyone?
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Well, they know that with Trump, there's no need to respect promises made. Not to mention that Trump usually does not respect the ones he made either....
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6 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:
I'll ask the same of each poster here who continues with the false claims that Trump's tweet interfered, or attempted to interfere, with the DOJ on Roger Stone's behalf and how this constitutes, at worst, another impeachable offense.
What is the difference between what the libs/Dems are claiming as egregious behaviour on Trump's part and what Obama said on 60 Minutes to deflect calls for the criminal prosecution of Hillary?
I'll help by pointing out one difference: Obama attempted to deflect calls for the criminal prosecution of Hillary while Trump's tweet was merely complaining about an obviously unjust sentence proposal of 7~9 years. He did not attempt to get Stone's verdict overruled, just the severity of the sentence.
There simply is no way to justify the accusations against Trump when Obama went to even greater lengths to protect one of his own Democrats.
So you don't think Obama interefered. Do I understand well?
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1 hour ago, Tippaporn said:
What's clear to most right-thinking people is that the left has no other option other than to continue their pursuit of making false claims and then keep repeating them over and over again in hopes that people believe. Hasn't worked yet.
Russian collusion? Not guilty. A fabrication soon to be exposed in full.
Obstruction? Not guilty. Also soon to be exposed (if the FBI knew in Jan. 2017 that there was no Russian collusion why did they renew two FISAs and why did they initiate the Mueller investigation?
Impeachment? Not guilty. I believe this will be another fraud upon the American people that will come to light and the perps will pay dearly.
By all means, continue to keep repeating the falsity that Barr is a stooge for Trump. LOL
The pot calling the kettle black. ????
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19 minutes ago, JHolmesJr said:
IIRC, there are 12 jurors.....you cant just reproduce a random
statement that might have been recorded for an unopposed jury member.
Try again....this one is either going to be a mistrial.....or will be appealed....
and if sentencing is to occur it will be under more realistic guidelines.
"Hart (identified only as Juror 1261, but identifiable by her statement that she ran for Congress and other biographical details) was questioned by the trial judge and by defense counsel."
By the way, it's you and your mates who claim the defense lawyer did object. Where is your evidence? You did not provide any. (Not Trump's tweets, please)
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1 hour ago, candide said:
Another lie:
"THE COURT: Mr. Buschel, you have a motion?
MR. BUSCHEL: No.
THE COURT: Okay, let's bring in the next juror."
https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/is-there-a-stone-jury-scandal-not
1 hour ago, JHolmesJr said:And the judge steamrolled it through anyway.
Huge pain coming for her....totally discredited.
57 minutes ago, WalkingOrders said:Actually no. The judge vetted the jury.
The defense lawyer did not reject her. See above.
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3 minutes ago, Chiphigh said:
The defense objected
Just now, candide said:Another lie:
"THE COURT: Mr. Buschel, you have a motion?
MR. BUSCHEL: No.
THE COURT: Okay, let's bring in the next juror."
https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/is-there-a-stone-jury-scandal-not
See above
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51 minutes ago, JHolmesJr said:
No...the defence objected but judge overruled.
In legal terms this will be argued as miscarriage of justice among other things.
Mistrial!
Another lie:
"THE COURT: Mr. Buschel, you have a motion?
MR. BUSCHEL: No.
THE COURT: Okay, let's bring in the next juror."
https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/is-there-a-stone-jury-scandal-not
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1 hour ago, Chiphigh said:
So it is ok for the judge to allow a blatantly hyper partisan anti trump Democrat to be the foreman?
This will end in a mistrial. The ridiculous double standards and targeted persecution based on who you support is going to backfire
She's been vetted by the defense lawyer, right?
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5 hours ago, JHolmesJr said:The key to getting stone's conviction overturned is understanding the role played
by an openly based jury forewoman that the defence had asked to be disallowed.
But judge Jackson overruled them.
Now it's turning out that this lady Tomeka Hart has written all kinds of anti trump
nonsense about russia collusion, his associates etc...and run for office as a democrat.
how she could ever be allowed on a jury like this one is befuddling.....a judge with very
poor judgement? Judge has some serious 'splaining to do.
This is turning out to be a case of official corruption or rank incompetence.
Glad Barr took the reins on this one.
So what? This juror was vetted during the jury selection process & was seated.
On top of it, there's not much doubt about what Stone did. He did lie, It's easy to check. He did threaten a witness, there's no doubt about it either.
How many years in jail is it worth? It can be discussed, if you want. But there is absolutely no ambiguity about what he did. It's all recorded or written.
So It's another ..... argument, as usual.
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13 hours ago, david555 said:UK alignment on EU standards price to pay for trade deal, say MEPs
Vote comes as bloc wields its powers to force change in UK domestic law during transition
The European parliament has called on Michel Barnier to keep Britain permanently tied to its employment, environment and competition laws as the price for maintaining free trade with the EU.
In a resolution adopted by 543 votes to 39, with 69 abstentions, MEPs said there needed to be “dynamic alignment” with EU standards across a range of issues ????
(This seems to be more than a majority from 80 votes) ????
Those pesky elected representatives may make one reconsider criticism against (so called) unelected commissioners! ????
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8 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:
Right, so the US AG routinely reviews and approves prosecutor sentencing recommendations in individual cases?!
Of course he does not.
He responded to Trump’s tweet like the good lapdog he is.
They probably talk about it before the tweet. But Trump could not stop himself from sending tweets.
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17 minutes ago, Chiphigh said:Meanwhile, anti trump govt officials get away with lying to congress and even get paid by the democratic party media to keep lying.
No double standards here at all.....
If you are triggered enough to think stone deserves more time than a rapist or a robber, you might be a leftist hack.
In case you were right, that's the job of the DOJ to indict them. Do you mean the DOJ under Trump has anti-Trump double standards? ????
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3 hours ago, puipuitom said:
And how many Arab countries discriminate Jews and other non-muislism , already since 635 ?
Why Arabs living in Israel, and Isreli citizen do NOT want to live in Palestine ?
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/15516/arab-israelis-peace-plan
The main reason Arabs in Israel are afraid of becoming Palestinian citizens is because they know that the Palestinian state will be anything but democratic. Many Arab citizens of Israel see how Palestinians living under the Palestinian Authority (PA) in the West Bank and Hamas in the Gaza Strip are subject to human rights violations on a daily basis.
Maybe it has to do with the fact that they were born there, just like their parents, grand-parents, etc... And they don't see any reason why they should move elsewhere.
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1 hour ago, looking on the bright side said:
Vindman turned against Trump. Trump hasn't done anything wrong, the transcript of his call shows there is no impeachable offence. So Trump is right to oust anybody who is disloyal and ready to sabotage him.. Nancy the Ripper Pelosy, Adam Shifty Shift ,Vindman, etc.- what disgusting characters they are.
And Trump the ....? ????
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1 hour ago, masterpasser said:
The epidemic will only end once the virus cannot infect any further hosts- The dead, the immune after having and recovering from the virus and also the quarantined .
Not a pandemic yet , but given the exponential growth of infection, highly likely .
The only continent that avoided the 1918 flu pandemic was Australia.They enforced strict quarantine laws on all shipping entering Australia. This decision saved thousands of Australian lives.
Exactly. Due to the fact that it seems to be so easily transmitted, 'no pandemy' looks like the most unexpected outcome.
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2 hours ago, JHolmesJr said:
Prepare to add disappointment to your shock.
DOJ is looking afresh at sentencing .
His crimes consisted mainly of lying about certain
contacts with Wikileaks.
Is there anyone on the democrat side who didn't lie
during the impeachment hearings?
He's just a nice guy who wanted to help...(Trump?)
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Banana republic....
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6 hours ago, nauseus said:
Sub thread was quotas until some spark brought up rights to confuse.
Up to you.
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5 hours ago, JHolmesJr said:
spoken like a man with concrete proof. ????
1 hour ago, candide said:Ooops! I forgot this news!
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3 hours ago, JHolmesJr said:
spoken like a man with concrete proof. ????
Cohen, to start with...
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Barr tells Trump to stop tweeting about Stone case; juror calls it 'appalling'
in World News
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Solomon! ????