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44 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:
You link states " It has been 2 years, 9 months since North Korea's last ICBM test."
Which must be about the same time as Trump and Kims meeting ?
More than 6 months before the meeting and 3 months before NK started to make contact with SK. They stopped because they had completed their program.
"After North Korea claimed that the missile was capable of "carrying [a] super-heavy [nuclear] warhead and hitting the whole mainland of the U.S.", Kim-Jong-Un announced that they had "finally realized the great historic cause of completing the state nuclear force",[23] putting them in a position of strength to push the United States into talks.[24]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_North_Korea–United_States_Singapore_Summit
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Interesting news!
"The health department’s politically appointed communications aides have demanded the right to review and seek changes to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s weekly scientific reports charting the progress of the coronavirus pandemic, in what officials characterized as an attempt to intimidate the reports’ authors and water down their communications to health professionals."
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23 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:
It really doesnt
The USA is not the whole World and not everyone hangs onto every word he says
These days we are not force feed news , we can click on any news that interests us .
(Please spare me , telling me what I click on and what I watch and what I read )
Well, considering the relatively high number of posts which are just echoing Trumps tweets.....
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2 hours ago, Isaan sailor said:
Feel sorry for Joe. Too old, And age has taken its toll-confused and frail. Why did DNC choose him?
Taking into account all polls up to now, this is not a compliment for Trump, as he trails Biden by many points! ????
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52 minutes ago, Morch said:He does encourage people to wear masks and keep social distancing. It's mentioned often enough in his comments. As for "often seen unmasked", I doubt that's based on anything much - many of the public addresses he gives are done in front of limited crowds/reporters, and keeping in line with social distancing. Any way you wish to spin or make up things, it's nowhere near Trump's conduct on this front.
Too bad you missed his deleted post showing pictures from before the epidemic, as a proof of his claim! ????????????????
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41 minutes ago, forehandplus said:
I'm sure that somewhere in The Art of War by Sun Tzu there's some discourse on doing nothing when your enemy is destroying himself. So sometimes doing nothing is a form of campaigning.
A relevant quote from Sun Tzu:
"If your opponent is temperamental, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant. If he is taking his ease, give him no rest."
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2 hours ago, CorpusChristie said:
LOL, I was asking what Biden SHOULD do in the future, I wasnt asking what Trump Shouldnt have done in the past
You are just trying to hyde the most relevant issue under the carpet. The damage is done and now there isn't much more to do, apart from leaving the health authorities do their job.
The relevant issue is who will be able to initiate and implement an efficient response to a next crisis (in case one comes up), without incoherent and childish behavior and without continuously bragging the first B.S. that comes to his mind.
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10 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:
Take into consideration that more Democrats were asked than Republicans were .
Dems seem to be more vociferous , Republican may not have bothered answering the poll
All polls are showing the same trend, not only this one. And as noticed by another poster, there are more registered Democrats than Republicans, so it reflects the composition of the population.
The rest is just unbacked assumptions that people may be lying or may not be motivated to answer, etc....
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6 hours ago, Damual Travesty said:
My original point, again, I don't put much credence in polls - one way or the other - at best they are a snapshot of a moment in time - prone to rapidly change - at worst - they are no longer accurate at all due to public simply not telling the truth when questioned. Something which is not easily measured. I will wait until after the election to find out who wins.
You propose an hypothesis without anything to support it. How do you know that there may be a significant number if people lying? If yes, how do you know they are not more or less equally distributed.
Polls are just as accurate (or inaccurate) as before.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-polls-are-all-right/
Polls are just measuring attitudes at a given time. Attitudes do affect future behavior, but only to a certain extent. The current polls (they all show the same trend) just indicate that Biden is more likely to win. "More likely" (Biden), is better than "unlikely" (Trump), but Trump still has a small chance to win.
My personal opinion is that attitudes are not going to change significantly, because both candidates are well-known by the voters. There will be no "new guy" or "let's try something different" effect.
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28 minutes ago, polpott said:
The GBP lost 5 baht on voting to leave. Since the announcement of the UK governments intentions last week, the GBP has been in freefall.
50 baht+ before the referendum. 40 baht today. GBP/Euro 1.43 December 2015, 1.08 today.
So Brexit is creating an unexpected convergence effect between the UK and the Eurozone. ????
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2 hours ago, xofswen said:
Sweden has nominated 45?
No.
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16 minutes ago, ChristianBlessing said:
On September 10, 2016 the Washington Post-ABC News national polling of likely voters gave Clintona 5% advantage.
Right! She ended up with only a 2% advantage at the election (3% less than expected).
Let's assume the same happens with Biden. 12%-3%=9% advantage. ????
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BRINO or FRINO? That is the question.....
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13 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:So let's summarise:
- no deal with the EU
- no deal with the US
- that leaves China as a potential partner. Hmmm... What about those British vessels patrolling with the US Navy in the South China Sea? ????
Wait, wait! Good news are coming! ????
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13 minutes ago, J Town said:
45 = bunker
46 = basement
And 46bis = kitchen ????
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2 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:Yes, many Countries didnt take the virus seriously and have been slow to react , then again, no one really knew how widespread this would become , but yes , many Countries should have taken more precautions earlier , but hindsight is a wonderful thing
Trump himself acknowledged he was aware of it.
As for other countries, their leaders should also be held accountable, when they had enough time to prepare a response, I.e. BoJo.
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5 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:
I didnt realise people placed so much importance on what Trump says .
There were reports back in January of a new highly contagious virus , I took precautions without seeking Dons advice
My post was not about individuals' reactions, it was about triggering and implementing an early response. What SK and Germany did. More or less what Trump started to do in mid-March.
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5 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:
My point is that even after the world became aware of the dangers of the virus , many people still are unconcerned and dont take any precautions , Trumps early stance had little effect .
Had he told everyone to wear masks , they would have just ignored his advice , as they are doing now
And masks were not available, anyway.
The problem is that his stance was also reflected in his behavior. He failed to trigger and lead an early response.
Another problem is that he politised an issue which should not have been politicised, accusing the Dems and the MSM of creating panic and the usual B.S.
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2 hours ago, Hi Tea said:
In short, nominations can be made by anyone who qualifies, it does not have to be a country!
I agree, but the discussion was about Riclag writing "Thanks Norway", Chomper replying "It wasn’t a gift from Norway", and then you replied.
So I recalled that he wasn't "Norway", just an individual.
The fact that the guy is an extreme-right pro-Putin lawmaker only adds more flavour to the story.
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2 hours ago, Hi Tea said:
It was a Norwegian lawmaker.
What have his politics got to do with it when he doesn't decide who gets the award?
In short, he is not "Norway"!
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Of course! He's been warned, re-warned, and warned again!
FEBRUARY 11, 2020 / 10:28 AM
GENEVA (Reuters) - China’s coronavirus outbreak poses a “very grave threat for the rest of the world” and should be viewed as “Public Enemy Number 1”, the head of the World Health Organization (WHO) said on Tuesday. WHO director-general Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus urged countries to step up measures to detect and contain the virus....
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1 hour ago, cmarshall said:
That was the last, best chance for the US to be S. Korea or Taiwan, both of whom were closely monitoring the new virus in China and kicked off their carefully prepared plans in Dec. 2019.
This is actually not accurate. Of course, they were more apt to decrypt information from China due to geographical and cultural proximity. They were also more sensitive to epidemic risk and more experienced, having been hit by SARS and MERS previously.
However, they only started to organise a response after Jan. 20, I.e. by creating a strategic committee, inciting labs and companies to produce tests, etc...
What they did in a few weeks, the US could have easily done it in nearly two months.
Another good example is Germany. It was exactly at the same level of information as the US at the end of January: both had a seat at the WHO executive board and had access to all information processed by the WHO.
When the outburst occured on Feb. 25/26, Germany was ready (tests, equipment, organisation, etc...). When the outburst started in the US 3 weeks later, the country was not ready.
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-exemplar-south-korea
https://theconversation.com/what-coronavirus-success-of-taiwan-and-iceland-has-in-common-140455
https://www.ft.com/content/cc1f650a-91c0-4e1f-b990-ee8ceb5339ea
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7 hours ago, Mama Noodle said:
More revisionist nonsense, but par for the course. In both of those months there was so much disinfo and downplay from literally every side of American politics up to and including the use of masks. Only when NY got bad did the script flip.In Feb/March there was a barrage of posts from TVF Trumper's, claiming the left-leaning MSM and Dems were overstating epidemic risk in order to create panic, that is was another hoax, that so-called experts were not experts, it was just another flu, etc...
So, according to you, Trumper posters were accusing the Dems and MSM of overstating epidemic risk in order to create panic, while the Dems and MSM were actually unanimously downplaying it? It's completely incoherent.
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Norwegian lawmaker nominates Trump for Nobel Peace Prize
in World News
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Tensions were diffused before, in particular during meetings between NK and SK. The initiative of peace talks has been clearly initiated by NK, after getting a nod from Xi. Trump jumped on it in his usual PR way.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_North_Korea–United_States_Singapore_Summit