richard_smith237

I too used to believe the IDP was valid for (90 days actually) after entry. I have never seen a source for this information. Thus: I would happily be re-educated if provided with an accurate and official source. (note embassy pages etc are notoriously inaccurate).

A foreign license with IDP is valid until 90 days since entry to Thailand, or until the expiration of the license or IDP, whichever comes first. However, determining how long someone has been in Thailand without recourse to your passport or at least passport number is problematic. So as a practical matter it is not checked at your typical police checkpoint. However, should there be a serious accident it certainly could be checked. I used to believe so too.... based on ‘hearsay’ on various webforms such as this etc... There is a lot of misinformation and ambiguity surrounding IDP’s and how long we can drive here, for how long etc. I have never found a source which states this 90 days limit. I have never seen an insurance document which states this 90 days limit.

Valid point... With all the Ambiguity and various circular requirements and regulations based on Nationality of home country license, Visa Status etc... with the BiB not knowing the specifics of their own Laws etc.... ... the most logical options are: Get a Thai Licence ASAP and having an IDP will not hurt your case if stopped by the BiB, in fact its more likely to appease them in their absence of legal knowledge rather than having to explain to them that they are wrong and you are right that you don’t need an IDP... ... The BiB won’t have heard of and won’t care for the 1968 Vienna convention or care for the Road Traffic Act.

A good option IF there is someone at his address from which to mail the IDP. But, this goes back to whether the IDP is needed at all ? - It depends on which country issued the Ops DL and what his visa status is here. iF the Op is on a Non-Imm visa - he needs a Thai DL. Also note: (In the UK at least) the IDP must be obtained in person, it cannot be obtained online etc.

Really ??? - where does it say that ???? The IDP is valid for 12 months. The requirement to switch to a Thai DL depends on your visa status.

Sadly, I completely agree..... ... it is this repeated response which enables DUI behaviour and actually ‘creates’ more danger on the roads as people are sent the message that DUI is not a serious issue, they’ll simply get away with it if they have an accident....

He saw it was a Yaris !!!

Not true: You can use the DLT QR App (shown a couple of posts above). Risk there is, the App crashing etc... so its good to have the physical licence. This App was put in place to reduce roadside corruption... i.e. Police officers taking your Thai DL and holding it ransom until you pay the ‘roadside fine’.... The BiB are no longer permitted to take and hold onto your Driving Licence, although many were still doing this. Now all you need to show them is the App. Of course, then the BiB have your phone and potentially a bigger bargaining chip, but that is perhaps a step too far and the BiB are not quite that ballsy just yet !!! Excellent advice !!!.... I’ll remember that ‘just incase’ I ever do lose my licence overseas. That said: Thai’s no longer need a police report to replace a lost licence (Wife lost hers), I assume this is also the same for foreigners, but I’m not sure. It could also vary from province to province and DLT office to DLT office.

It is a fact. The insurance is cancelled if a Thai licensed is not obtained within 60 days of arrival. That is not on applying for insurance. I assume you mean ‘Void’ (not cancelled).... but no, it is the car which is insured... Someone on a Tourist Visa and a UK license could drive our car without issue no matter how long they had been in country. Residing.... Thats the key word there.... In this context it means a foreigner on a Resident Visa. Foreigners with a Resident Visa (i.e. Non Imm) must get a Thai Licence. Tourists and those on Visa ‘can’ get a Thai Licence IF they can secure the right paperwork (specifically Certificate of address (from immigration) or Affirmation of Residence (from Embassy)). Otherwise: Tourist’s can drive on their home country licence under conditions a) Without an IDP IF their home country licence is in English (and part of 1968 convention). b) With an IDP their home country licence is in English (and part of 1968 convention). An IDP is valid for 1 year - they can simply renew after one year and continue driving legally. These laws assume that a ’Tourist’ cannot stay in Thailand for that long. Also not quite true: In Thailand, in most cases it is the car which is insured not the person.

Mine is on both my laptop and phone. I have to ever been able to get to a human on Line either. Correct - LINE can be used on both a Laptop and a Phone (I’m not sure about a Phone and a Tablet - i.e. iPhone & iPad)... The secondary account (LINE for computer) requires permission from the Master Device (ie. the Phone to scan the LINE Generated QR code on the desktop to approve the LogIn. None of this is a solution to accessing the original account if the log in on the main device doesn’t work.

Just use email. Easier. You're getting side tracked..... The Op isn’t asking for advice on how to avoid a car-crash, he’s asking advice on how to get the car repaired... so there is no point telling him to take the bus !!!

I don’t think that would work either, as even when an ID is created and deleted. A new ‘carbon copy’ ID (the same) cannot be created as that would conflict with the ID of the date still locked on the company server. Its the same if we delete our hotmail e-mail account. We can’t create a new e-mail account with exactly the same username (e-mail address). Account recovery is required.

You're getting mixed up with WhatsApp which requires a phone number. Line does not need to be tied to a Phone number... Mine is tied to a Log-In and e-mail and I can switch the phone number on my account to whatever number I want.

I’m not sure you understand the issue Sparky.... The Ops friend can’t access the LINE Account at all, so is unable to restore anything. It seems to me the account has been deleted and may only be restored from Company servers, IF they even permit that.

OP... Does your ‘friend’ have a backup of her phone operating system on the Cloud etc ??? She could restore to a previous ‘time’ and see if that works..... However, as the Login and PW don’t work its possible your friend inadvertently ‘deleted’ her Line account, in which case it's inaccessible even with the correct Login and PW. This scenario is most likely if someone has two Line accounts and attempts to switch from one to the other on the same phone.... removing the old account and accidentally deleting it before logging in with the other account.

And back up to the cloud etc just incase we lose our phone... Back up our log-in details to the cloud, just incase we lose those etc etc... None of this helps recover lost info on a LINE account that cannot be accessed.

Correct - LINE contacts are not saved anywhere else. Sparky is suggesting she ‘should’ have also saved the contacts in a second location to ensure backup - sensible advice for all of us, but we know that. It offers no solution to the current problem after the fact.

Don’t be obtuse.... I have loads of ‘LINE only’ contacts which I’d lose if I lost access to my LINE account. The potential suggesting of ‘saving important contacts to the phone or SIM’ would be shutting the barn door after the horse has bolted...

Of course he lives in Thailand... accusing him of not is just some sort of juvenile cheap-shot to try and score a hit to his credibility on THIS subject. The example provided was of Being in Thailand with an Australian licence, just as I have with a UK licence. Legally, an Australian or a Brit; or anyone from any other nation whose licence is in English (with a Photo ID) is a signatory to the 1968 Vienna convention on road traffic, can drive in Thailand on their home licence without an IDP if they are not a resident of Thailand.

No violation... IF you keep a copy on your phone on the DLT App. DLT QR Licence

Speaking Thai makes a difference !!!... - At a traffic lights I was approached and told to pull to the side of the road (after the lights changed). Pulled to the side and was told I was speeding. I said I wasn’t, asked them for proof. They had none. I asked them what ticket they were going to write if they couldn’t prove I was speeding... They told me to drive safely and waved me on !!... - Turning right from the middle lane (legally)... I was pulled over after the turn and told I’d made an illegal turn. I told them to go back and look at both the markings on the road and on the sign. They waved me on. - Out of Date Tax. Asked for 200 baht, laughed and argued 100 baht... a bit of light hearted back and forth, I handed 100B as I drove away, BiB was still saying 200b, but smiling ! Plenty of examples where speaking Thai and being confidence puts them on the back foot and they know they can’t get an ‘easy score’...

Why did he get what he deserves ??? From a legal perspective - it depends on what type visa his here on and what language his licence is in and from which nation. He may be driving fully legally IF on a Tourist Visa with a British Licence (no need for IDP) - in which case the police fine is wrong.

It would be interesting to see an insurance policy which states that... Policies usually state ‘must drive on a valid licence’ or something as such. IDP is valid for a year - thus, so long as the ‘foreigners’ is on a Tourist or Visa Exempt, their IDP is valid.... (or they don’t need one IF their licence is in English).

WRONG.... there are enough threads on this... It the simplest of terms: Tourist Visa / Visa Exempt: Can drive on Overseas Licence IF in English language (with a photo) Tourist Visa / Visa Exempt: Can drive on Overseas Licence and need IDP IF not in English Language. Resident Visa (i.e. Non Imm): Need a Thai Licence. That said: unless you want to get into an argument with a Policeman who doesn’t know his own laws its just easier to get the IDP and better still to get a Thai DL on whatever visa you are on. But.. the Upshot of the Ops question is: IF he was on a British Licence (or National Licence in English from one of the 1968 Vienna convention signatory nations, then he does not need an IDP to accompany his driving licence.

I’m a little confused by your comments, installation offers and cost of cams etc... Are you looking at buying a Cam for 2000 baht then paying 2500 for Toyota to install it ??? What I can advise is something I have done with my last 4 cars. Get a decent Cam and install yourself - its very easy, especially if not hard-wiring. My recommendation (last two cars had this dash-cam). Xiaomi 70mai Pro (Lazada Link) Front and rear facing. Good specks, proven to work in the Thailand heat etc. You could simply buy the cam and ask Toyota to install for you. Recently I had an Innov K2 cam (fwd / rear facing) installed on my motorcycle by the dealer as installation requires removing of body work etc, doing it very neatly was more difficult than sampling lifting the upholstery and tucking in a wire. Two installation types: Simple: Plug into 12v port and tuck the wires of the way into the upholstery - its a 30min job. NOTE: 12v plug in will not compromise your warranty. Technical: Hard-wiring into your fuse circuit with a fuse tap is a little more technical, you’d have to chose the right circuit so that it doesn’t use an ‘always on’ circuit and drain your battery, you’d have to chose a circuit that is only on when the ignition is on - hence installation this way is slightly more risky for the uninitiated - I didn’t bother, its only useful if you want parking mode to record when someone approaches your car etc (something I don’t need). NOTE: Hard wiring could compromise your warranty (if something were to go wrong with your battery or electrics).