johnnybangkok

You have (yet again) completely missed the point so there really is no point in continuing. And yes I know poverty. Being brought up in a Scottish council estate with 5 siblings and a single mother will do that for you.

Since your such a fan of videos how about this one? https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/video/2019/aug/31/glasgow-riot-police-deployed-as-irish-unity-march-and-counter-protesters-clash-video-report Or even this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVW1T-BIhfg Or this https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-14454252 When are you going to understand that these incidents are not just solely for immigrants but have everything to do with those living in poverty and deprived areas. YOUR videos just show people of colour rioting but in Glasgow they were ALL white and in Liverpool a mixture of races but predominately white. It's not an immigrant thing, it's a poverty thing and unfortunately a lot of people of colour in certain areas of the country, live in poverty and that's why you'll see predominately black faces, but it could just as easily be white depending on the geography.

Usual nonsense https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/21254076.prayers-condolences-bradfords-christian-jewish-hindu-sikh-muslim-communities/ https://www.islamchannel.tv/blog-posts/muslim-tributes-pour-in-for-queen-elizabeth-ii https://theislamicinformation.com/news/muslim-leaders-mourn-queen-elizabeth-ii-death/ https://english.alaraby.co.uk/news/uk-muslims-express-sorrow-over-queen-elizabeths-death

Your views are so negative of the UK I wonder who does actually love Britain more. I choose to go with the idea that the minority does not dictate the majority; that good people vastly outnumber the bad and that the introduction of immigrants has done more to enhance the UK that not. But hey, each one to their own.

Fair point. Let’s just go with white. VERY white.

So EXACTLY what is your point as you are confusing the hell out of all of us here? You talk about terrorism but not all terrorists. You talk about Muslims, Sharia Law and immigration but it’s not about people of colour as you’re definitely not racist. You obscure, deflect and pull the nationalist card ALL the time when someone criticizes your viewpoint. So again, what exactly is your point?

As I've said before, religous extremists who don't represent the vast majority of muslims. Next!

Yet more cherry picking of a few extremists to try and justify the unjustifiable. Anjem Choudary was rightly convicted of terrorism charges on 6 September 2016 (8 years ago) and sentenced to five years and six months in prison. He was also restricted with speaking in public or to the media. We can all pick a few outliers to justify our prejudices but as much as the KKK doesn't represents white America, nor the IRA represents all of Catholic Ireland, we have to look to the majority rather than the minority to see true representation. And the vast majority of muslims in the UK want nothing to do with the likes of Anjem Choudary, ISIS, Sharia Courts or anything else you are trying to make look like the norm. The simple truth is Enoch's 'prophecies' have thankfully not come true and no amount of you cherry picking extremists to argue otherwise is going to change that fact.

So you have no thoughts about UK immigration (which I seriously doubt) but you do have plenty of thoughts on Sharia Law, muslim terrorist activities, patrols through whitechapel, the murder of PC Blakelock and that Enoch was correct in his asumptions about immigration? Can you see how someone MIGHT construe this as being a little bit racist?

You have been accussing posters of avoiding your questions throughout this thread so why don't you answer mine? What do you think is the correct amount of immigrants we should allow into the Uk and what type of immigrant should they be?

Ok, so you think that the UK should only be populated by the people who are already there and NO immigrants at all should be allowed in? Correct?

The whole thread is about people of color. Again I will ask, what color of immigrants was Enoch referring to and what color are all the people you and the likes of Bert Bloggs and Ivor Biggun (who I originally replied to) giving examples of?

You are talking yourself into a corner. Yes, 7th July was muslim fanatics committing terrorist activities. But the IRA bombings were white, anglo-Saxons yet I don't hear you going on about them or posting videos of the IRA and their views. Your whole argument is about Enoch and his myopic views of immigrants. Why don't you tell me what colour the immigrants he was talking about were?

Maybe you haven't exactly said it but it certainly is heavily implied since your whole argument is in defence of Enoch and his assertions that immigrants (and what colour might they possibly be) was correct. I think I'd have more respect for you if you just came out and said it rather than post videos of muslims and Sharia Law, PC Blakelock and the bus bombings of 2005. You have not posted one single incident of white crime or terrorism so what are we to conclude regarding your views? You might THINK you are not being racist but you absolutely are. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck .................

They were British. Born and bread. Get your basic facts correct before commenting perhaps? Both you, Transam and others are trying desperately to equate Britians problems with the colour of someones skin whilst conveniently ignoring that terrorism occured well before immigration was a 'thing'. You can go all the way back to Guy Fawkes trying to blow up parliament, to fascists in the 1930's to the IRA in the 70's, 80's and 90's. The IRA killed more people than any muslim terrorist (approx. 1700) so if you want to talk about 'streets of blood' then this was much more accurate than what you are trying to level at the muslim and black communities in the UK. However this doesn't fit into your racist narrative because of course they were all white so that's a little bit inconvient and completely disproves your ridiculous point so you rely on stories of a VERY small amount of people supporting Sharia Law or the disproportonate amount of black on black knife crime. You go on about Indian and Pakistani communities taking over your towns whereas the reality is that most of where they 'dominate' is the deprived and run downs areas they find themselves inhabiting. Again I will bring you back to personal stories as anecdotal seems to be what you are about and again talk about my personal experiences. In my home town (in Scotland) there was/is stabbings and crime but not a single person of colour does them as we simply don't have them in any large numbers. I lived in Whitchapel for 6 years (still have a flat there) and have never seen any of the nonsense you keep sprouting despite being surrounded by a muslim community. I was in South Croydon for 4 years and although it paid to keep your wits about you, again I never saw anything resembling the apocolyptic scenarious you all keep trying to paint. I also lived in East Ham and a short time in Brixton and again didn't see anything you are trying to paint here. What I did see though was people in poverty with very little prospects falling into the usual trap of crime and violence because that's what their surroundings and the people they hung out with often dictated. I'm not giving them any excuses though as I came from that background muyself and I got the hell out of it, but equally so, I also don't blame their ethnicity as I have seen exactly the same problems (and worse) coming from white people. The issues in the UK are nuanced and intricate but what they are not is this blanket all 'well it's the muslims and the blacks innit' nonsense you are all trying to espouse here. And importantly, unless you are going to be part of the solution then you really shouldn't be adding to the problem with your racist diatribe and frankly child like assertions that someone like Enoch Powell was a prophet of sorts. He wasn't. He was just a posh racist.

Religion not race.

Oh so yours is a 'good' immigrant but all the others aren't?

You have had numerous responses on your videos (myself included) but conveniently, never respond when an explaination is given. Like I said, like playing a pigeon at chess.

I had a similar situation in my home town where a couple of schools insisted on seperating the boys from the girls. They would also ring the bells several times a day and a LOT on Sundays. They also didn't want to teach sex education and girls would be expelled for getting pregnant. They were catholic schools, run by actual nuns and priests. I take it you have the same issue with these schools or is it just a particular religion you have a problem with?

For millenia Catholics have had 'confession'. The jews have had their religous councils (the Sanhadrin) as has pretty much every religion, including Budhism. Is your issue that it's a religous council or that's it's a certain, particular religions council? I suspect it's the latter but either way it's irrelevant as it's NOT mainstay law in the UK and will never be despite your best efforts to try and paint it as such. A few extremists shouting from a street corner doesn't make a majority nor does a couple of blokes 'patrolling' Whitechapel high street. Anyone, I'm done here. You are obviously never going to listen to another opinion that is any different from the views you formed some 50 odd years ago. Talk about stuck in the past.

Why did I know my humour would go 3 foot over your head?

Whatcha mean 'thinks'? ????

And having listened to your blinkered assessment of the Uk, it's apparent you haven't been for a very, very long time.

Title should read Husband went to attack ex wife "because she has impeccable taste"

Pigeons are considered pests in the UK.