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8 minutes ago, Krataiboy said:

Great to see this maverick President toss yet another spanner in the works of the globalist elite. They must be foaming at the mouth as Trump continues to deliver on his promise to put America first, rather than kowtow to the architects of the New World Order.

 

His stubborn stand over the Mexican wall is a middle finger to the money masters' and their supporters' plans for open borders and the death of national sovereignty as a stepping stone to global government.

 

This is by no means the first time since his shock election that Trump has dared rock the boat. One of his first moves on taking office was to pull the US out of the The Trans Pacific Partnership. Other blows he has struck for American independence include his refusal to endorse either the Paris climate change accord or the new UN charter on refugees.

 

You have to admire the much-maligned Republican President for sticking to his guns and honouring his election pledges. If only some of his opposite numbers on the other side of the Pond, busy selling out their once-great nations to the globalists, had his guts and grasp of political realities.

I know I’m going to regret this but I’m curious how much tin foil your hat is made from sooooooo just exactly who are these “money masters”, “globalist elites” and “New World Order” then?

(please dont say the Rothchilds. Everyone says the Rothchilds). 

1 hour ago, Benmart said:

I see your point. The media manipulates and fabricates to its own end. Unless I see it, I don't brlieve it. Unfortunately, there are many who read and believe the rubbish that passes as "news". If a newspaper reported aliens  

landing in Central Park, the multitudes would be lining up for transport to another planet.

Yeah. Aren’t you just sick of the liberal main stream media making Donald Trump look bad by airing raw, unedited footage of things he actually said and publishing verifiable accounts of things he has actually done.

2 hours ago, riclag said:

 There is a choice! America is on a 3 week Shut down issue or facing  America's  decades long crisis at hand, with illegals,human trafficking  ,drug's and gang member's coming through the Southern Border. 

  America has a safety and a sovereign  priority  at the Southern Border !

Build a barrier or a wall!

People can be taught how to hate and people can be taught proper grammar.

But apparently, it's one or the other.

6 hours ago, Longcut said:

Then tell "your" government to cut ties with the U.S... Simple as that.  

It just looks like to me, the Australian government backed the wrong horse.

 

It’s true that the renminbi has been sliding in value against the US dollar to levels last seen a year ago. It has depreciated about 4 percent against the US dollar in the past month. Over the same period, while now trading at around US74¢ or roughly the same levels at which it started the month, the Australian dollar has bounced between US73¢ and US75¢ while remaining relatively stable against the renminbi.

Sooooo been trying to work a few of you Trumpers out, and I think your utterly selfish view of the world is because you weren’t very well liked at some stage in your upbringing. 

Might have been toddler (though most get over that) but more likely adolescents. 

Its important to bring light to this as this inability to deny absolute fact that you so frequently get shown is something truly to behold. We are not talking mere inuedo or speculation but perfectly presented video footage that shows he’s a misogynist, a white supremacist and not of his full faculties. 

But hey. Thanks for letting us all know what you look like. You hid in the fringes of the new, modern, feerless workd and grumbled about tide pods, gender reassignment, someone trying to steal your gun and got super heated about someone fulfilling their constitutional right to protest and take a knee in non violent protest. 

You felt left out so you resorted to your tribe; us v them, Americu is the greatest; if your not with me well.........., But at least an echo chamber is company and an angry famous face told you it would all be better. He promised you transportion back to the 1950,s and an utopian way of life. He wasn’t like those other politicians with their fancy words and their fancy thoughts. He talks simple. I like simple. And in the meantime I will try to ignore the fact that despite things that actually affect me personally, my problem isn’t billionaires, corporations and the buying of the US government,  it’s them pesky foreigners. 

We are all sorry that you’re not happy. Now grow up and think of someone other than yourself. 

5 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

This is going to be awesome. I believe he will state (correctly) that the open southern border is the greatest threat to American security existing today. In light of this, he will use an executive order and the military to get this wall done asap. I read 95% of border security guards are pro wall - well they should know. 

 What I can't understand is why he doesn't just freeze all foreign aid, its a huge sum something like 50bn buck a year, and spend it all on the wall. It could be diamond encrusted if we reroute all the money we splash on 3rd world dictators back to the nation's security. Well that's where I would start. Good luck Trump, and don't forget to Tweet the news for extra exposure.

The 'greatest threat to American security today'? It doesn't even make the top 10.

https://fortunascorner.com/2018/08/05/ten-biggest-national-security-threats-facing-u-s/

It's the oldest trick in the political book; get the working man to blame the immigrants for all the problems in their life even though the country is run by billionaires and corporations. Let me ask you this? Personally, what effected you more?

1. The 2008 economic crisis that saw businesses go under and wide spread unemployment because a few wall street bankers needed a $2 million bonus instead of a $1 million bonus (I lost my business because of it so I know how much it effected me)?

2. The ensuing recession that has seen wages stagnate for almost a decade with the average American seeing their purchasing power decrease to it's lowest in 40 years? 

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/08/07/for-most-us-workers-real-wages-have-barely-budged-for-decades/ 

3. A few illegal immigrants (that's been steadily decreasing since it's peak in 2000) taking menial jobs that most Americans turn their nose up at?

Yet you people can't see it. You just continue to fight among yourselves blaming and demonising people who have little choice in their life but to try and find something better even if it means putting themselves and their children in harm’s way. At the same time the billionaires and corporations get huge tax breaks whilst waiting for further erosion of Dodd-Frank so they can really make some money. They're just sitting back and laughing about how they are still getting away with all this and that YOU are focused on an exaggerated problem that can be much better sorted through so many other better ways than an ineffectual wall estimated to cost anything from $25 billion to $70 billion (just to build). 

It's a non-problem created to keep your eyes away from where the real action is going on in the shape of the forthcoming legal issues that the most divisive president in recent US history and his family will soon be facing.

48 minutes ago, cooked said:

You're a hopeless case. The media have CHANGED since the days when they just reported facts. Breitbart? Who he? Have you any even very slight acquaintance with who owns these MSM sources that hysterically, pointlessly and sometimes without proof (forced to withdraw their drivel many times, not that most people will have noticed that) blame Trump for cancer, bad breath and modern music.

Well said sir!

I for one am sick of the liberal mainstream media making Donald Trump look bad by airing raw, unedited footage of things he's actually said and publishing verifiable accounts of things he actually did.

It's just not on!

3 hours ago, Boon Mee said:

 The Wall is going to happen. Whether it comes to fruition thru Congress or a Go Fund Me which btw, is over a billion dollars already. 

Never let the facts get in the way of a Trump devotee eh Boon.

To date it's $7 million (http://digg.com/2018/gofundthewall-gofundme-trump-border-wall) and the goal is $1 billion. At the current rate of donations of approx. $2 million per day, that would mean the $1 billion would take some 500 days to raise (that's assuming the initial enthusiasm lasts, which is highly unlikely), however the ACTUAL cost of the wall is conservatively estimated at $21 billion, which would take....wait for it... 28 years to raise!

So basically donate away as even a billion is a loooong way off what's needed so even if by some miracle the billion is raised, you still don't get a wall.

This kind of simple arithmetic and logic is of course usually way beyond the capabilities of most Trump fans.

'Trump's White House has had the highest turnover of senior-level staff of the past five presidents, according to the Brookings Institution think tank'. 

https://www.brookings.edu/research/tracking-turnover-in-the-trump-administration/

Currently the turnover of Trump's 'A' Team (senior-ranking advisers in the executive office of the president) stands at 65%.  If any of my managers never mind my CEO had this kind of turnover, have a guess who I'd be sacking? 
For someone who sold himself on being the 'best' businessman around, you'd have thought he might have got at least one of the basics right i.e. you are only as good as the staff that surround you. 

Terrible at business. Terrible as POTUS.

To be honest it’s getting a bit embarrassing to debate you guys now. 

I mean you’re just soooo predictable. 

The usual deflection, whataboutism (yes there is now a word to describe what you do, it’s got THAT obvious) false flags, you name it. Nothing is. new stuff. It’s All conspiracy hocum that is so easily refuted it’s embarrassing because when all else fails, your stock answer is; 

 but, but Hilary!!!

I supposed that’s what happens when you have to excuse the inexcusable day after day.  

Whilst all of you Trump fans are arguing semantics over how this investigation started (I don't have a strong opinion but I'm inclined to go with what the intelligence agencies have said), surely not even you guys can argue that the investigation has validity with 33 indicted already - five of which were former Trump advisers! 

You can argue causality but surely you cannot deny validity.

10 minutes ago, helpisgood said:

As reported by ABC News:

 

"Cohen has spent more than 70 hours in interviews with Mueller's team. The questioning has focused on contacts with Russians by Trump associates during the campaign, Trump’s business ties to Russia, obstruction of justice and talk of possible pardons, sources familiar with the discussions have told ABC News."  [Bold added.]

 

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/michael-cohen-expected-plead-guilty-lying-congress-collusion/story?id=59491450

 

Geez, seventy hours!  This is with someone who should know best, with the possible exception of the kids, where the bodies are all buried.  Imagine the treasure trove of info that Mueller's team now has.  And, Cohen is the guy who Trump trusted to silence the women he had affairs with.  What other sensitive info does Cohen know?   

 

An orange jumpsuit would look good on Donald.   

I disagree!

You won't be able to tell where the jumpsuit ends and the man begins.

30 minutes ago, riclag said:

Something smells very foul with the 13 angry Dem lawyers appointed by Mueller! So PT goes to a Putin summit in Helsinki, bam! news conference with Rosenstein,12 Russians being indited !
Now PT goes to a Summit in Argentina, Bam ! Cohen goes to a unexpected court appearance in NY, confessing to a lie to Congress! Rudy will slice and dice all of this new nonsense ! Process crimes and composing ! The greatest lawyer in modern day America will debunk this conspiracy concert!  Soon Mr. Wittaker will be holding the rights to the biggest book report in modern day politics!

The delusion of you Trump fans is really something to behold. It would be quite impressive if it wasn't so scary.

So correct me if I'm wrong but your whole point seems to be that this is some sort of Democratic conspiracy/witch hunt despite the fact that Trump appointed a Republican attorney general (now ex of course), Sessions who in turn appointed his Republican Deputy AG (Rosenstein) who in turn appointed a Republican former FBI director (Mueller) to head up the investigation? But somehow this is a democrat thing. 

And the correct spelling for the word you are looking for is 'indicted'.

You should learn that. I've got a feeling you'll be using it a lot more over the next few months.

1 hour ago, Sydebolle said:

Merkel should concentrate on Germany and Germany only. Brexit is an UK internal decision and is linked with Brussels and not Berlin. 
Merkel has plenty of unfinished and unexplained business on her own plate; clean your own house first! 

Xenophobic nonsense.

The last time I checked, Germany was a pretty big player in the EU. Obviously Merkel is very involved and has every right to voice her thoughts and concerns.

If you can't add to the debate, try saying nothing. 

1 hour ago, Baerboxer said:

 

They were called "World Wars" for good reasons. Some "allies" in WW1 became enemies in WW11.

 

France suffered badly. Northern France was a battle ground in WW1 and France collapsed and surrendered to the Nazis in WW11. 

 

Had it not been for many others, but predominantly Britain, Russia/USSR,and then the US, France would not be an independent country today and nor would many other European nations.

 

Unfortunately, that fact seems to irritate some of those nations who are no longer grateful for the sacrifices made but seem almost resentful. 

I find a lot of Americans view point on the world wars very odd considering the facts surrounding it. The US joined WW1 in April 1917, nearly 3 years after it started and 18 months before it finished. They joined WW2 in 1942, a full 2.5 years after it started and only then because Japan bombed Pearl Harbor.

There is no disputing that they turned the tide in both wars, but this idea of Americas charging in on a white horse to save the day is belittling to the contributions of all other nations that sacrificed so much and doesn't highlight the self interest that the US showed in both wars. If you want to thank someone for saving France then it should start with Britain for being the only country to effectively stand up to the Nazis and also Russia with their 18 million dead. 

I'll repeat; I'm not castigating America for their invaluable contribution to both wars but this idea it was ALL America and everyone should be eternally grateful is disingenuous at best, downright insulting at worst.     

2 hours ago, geriatrickid said:

LOL, Such rubbish. So what if the "cotton wool" (sic)  looked clean and dry? It means absolutely nothing. Toxic substances can do their damage in small quantities such that they are not readily visible. Why do you think/ personnel who fight fires must wear  a breathing apparatus, or lab workers working with small amounts of volatile organic substances are obliged to use fume hoods and  specially ventilated  rooms? My lab organic solvents did not leave a black sooty stain, but they could kill you, even in small amounts.

 

It really is difficult not to laugh at the ignorance on display here.

It's  wrong I suppose, but it explains so much.

Vaping is not harmless and there isn't one study published in a reputable scientific journal, nor peer reviewed that supports the claims of of the vape pushers. However, there are  growing number of studies that highlight the dangers.

As far back as 2014 there are reports like the Chemical evaluation of electronic cigarettes (citing research from the US FDA)  that was in the British Medical Journal (May 2014 - Volume 23 - suppl 2). The report showed that there were;

Wide ranges in the levels of chemical substances such as tobacco-specific nitrosamines, aldehydes, metals, volatile organic compounds, phenolic compounds, polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, flavours, solvent carriers, tobacco alkaloids and drugs in e-cigarette refill solutions, cartridges, aerosols and environmental emissions.  Ultrafine particulate matter with different particle size distribution ranges was reported in e-cigarette aerosols and environmental emissions.

 

Undeniable fact, so please don't toss out some unsubstantiated, unsupported crap to justify the inhalation of chemicals. You want to do it, fine by me, but don't  try and  justify it with fake BS science.

 

Vapers are not much different than glue sniffers . They are both addicts and they will lie to justify what they do. That's their business. if they want to inhale the toxic fumes, so be it, but they should just be honest and say, hey we are drug addicts and prefer to vape because it is safer because vapers do not fall asleep  with a  cigarette and set the place  on fire. Vapers don't toss cigarette butts out the window of a vehicle and start a wildfire and they don't smell like a disgusting ashtray. Vapers may not even have the rotten teeth and gums of heavy tobacco users. Possibly true, However, vapers will still die of lung and/heart disease and/or cancers at a  significantly higher rate than non vapers and non smokers.it is usually a long drawn out affair and the people suffer.

 

What absolute drivel. 

My view is supported by a number of key bodies, including Cancer Research UK, Action on Smoking and Health, the Royal College of Physicians, the British Medical Association and recently, a major US science body, the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine.

You talk about a 2014 study that has been refuted many times in this thread yet you still hold on to it likes it is gospel. Like ALL products I’m sure there are inconsistencies with lower grade products but a well regulated system (like in the U.K.) ensures that lower standard products get either banned or at the least, badly reviewed. 

The UK has one of the most comprehensive systems of regulation for e-cigarettes in the world. This includes:

• minimum standards of safety and quality
• packaging and labelling requirements
• a ban on advertising in print, broadcast, online and other electronic media
• a ban on the sale of e-cigarettes to under-18s and on purchase by adults on behalf of under-18s

No one is saying vaping is completely harmless but when the UKs Nhs endorses it to the point they recommend ALL smokers turn to vaping instead, you can be pretty sure they have a load more knowledge than you do. 

3 hours ago, Swiss1960 said:

That's ok, as long as they ban them from being used in the same places as the "real" cigarettes, e-smoke annoys, stinks and endangers in the same way as "real" smoke

Sent from my SM-A730F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app
 

Another ill-informed and frankly absurd statement.

E-cigarettes emit a vapor (which is why it's called 'vaping') that is completely harmless to the smoker and anyone in the vicinity. It's not smoke; it's more akin to steam or water vapor.

The only 'stink' you get is from the scent of the liquid you are vaping but since the vapor completely disappears within seconds (much like steam from a kettle), it doesn't linger.

There is no 'endanger' either as it doesn't (or shouldn't) contain any carcinogenics and only has nicotine which doesn't cause cancer. Obviously you need to stick to reputable manufacturers of vape liquid to ensure you get a reliable vape liquid, but with many endorsed companies around, that shouldn't be hard to do.

All in all, 50 times better than cigarettes.

19 minutes ago, lannarebirth said:

 

So, if you aspire to be no better than the worst of what the Republicans can come up with, why would anyone vote for you?

 

Also, is "taking the high road" asynonym for being "out of power" and therefore impotent.

Well obviously the Dems are no longer 'impotent'. By gaining the House they now have real power to block Trump's agenda and all they need to do is copy what the Republicans did with the help of the Tea Party back in 2010. 

My point however is that yes, it would be lovely to work to a higher standard than Republicans (a particularly low bar at best) but why should this be just a one-sided agreement that the Dems have to stick to? The GOP had their chance to 'take the high road' but not only did they not choose this path, they deliberately and systematically undermined a democratically elected POTUS regardless of how sane and beneficial his proposals were. Now the shoe is on the other foot, all we are hearing from the Trump fans is the Dems need to do the 'right thing' for the 'good of the country'. These are the very same people who were quite happy to be obstructionists to anything suggested by Obama.

The hypocrisy is galling.   

2 hours ago, connda said:

Democrats were handed a mandate: time to get to work on jobs for the working class, healthcare reform, infrastructure, and healing the national divide.  If they spend the next two year playing "get Trump and his deplorable supporters" they'll be creating the conditions for Trump's next term in office and another shift in balance in the House in favor of Republican.  The normal public wants action - not divisiveness. 

That's the kind of double standards and hypocrisy we have come to expect from Trump fans right there.

You guys have such a short memory or do you really not remember 8 years of Republicans disrespecting, delegitimizing and obstructing Obama at every turn? Mitch McConnell is famous for instructing Republicans that Obama was to be a 'one term president' and that they should block anything he puts up regardless of the good it may do the country. A few examples are:-

Tax on companies that ship jobs overseas - blocked by Republicans.

Political Ad disclosure Bill - blocked by Republicans.

The Small Business Jobs Act - blocked by Republicans.

Repeal of 'Don't ask, don't tell' - blocked by Republicans.

Benefits for homeless veterans - blocked by Republicans.

Health care for 9/11 first responders - blocked by Republicans.

Wall Street reform - blocked by Republicans.

Oil Spill Liability - blocked by Republicans.

Immigration reform - blocked by Republicans.

Fair Pay Act - blocked by Republicans.

I could go on but I think you get the idea. 

Personally I hope they block every single one of his initiatives and make him a complete lame duck president just like they did to Obama. Enough of taking the high road. It's time to fight dirty.