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1 hour ago, Becker said:

No, my turn: Did you or did you not confidently predict that Manafort would not go to jail and got that spectacularly wrong - yes or no?

Nice try Becker but you are never going to get the likes of Nyezhov, Boon Mee and the likes to ever admit they are wrong. They come on this forum defending their beloved Trump and when they get proven time and time again to be full of it they just wait for the next Trump story (daily obviously) in the vain hope of getting some morsel of good information to corroborate their deep state, libtards and the biased MSM narrative.

This story is obviously another example of Trump's willingness to abuse his power on almost a daily basis. The obvious red line that this crosses puts the FBI and the justice department in an impossible situation wherein an ongoing investigation into a sitting president is put in jeopardy by the very same sitting President. I've said it before and I will say it again, Trump believes he is above the law and has consistently done everything he can to confuse and misdirect this investigation. He has changed his story so many times I'm getting dizzy but truth will be out and I am confident that the worse president EVER will soon be just a bad footnote in history.

11 minutes ago, RawboneFunksta said:

Trump has a point

 

The death toll from Maria, the most powerful storm to hit there in almost a century, was raised last month from 64, a number widely discounted as far too low, to 2,975.

 

That sounds (non) scientific LMAO

 

It would not matter what the President did, he would be criticised and lies/omissions would be widespread. 

 

He's an outsider and it's not in the interests of Republicans or Democrats to support him as most of them have their noses to deeply embedded in the swill bin. The arms trade has no more loyal supporters . . . 

 

MAGA!

'It would not matter what the President did, he would be criticised and lies/omissions would be widespread' 

He could have:

Not waited 6 days after the hurricane to hold a meeting about it.

Put out his first Tweet (and we know how he loves a good Tweet) long before the 5 days that he actually took

Not blamed the Major and the people of Puerto Rico for all the problems.

Insisted that more than the 10,000  federal personnel got on the ground immediately as all other previous hurricanes (Harvey, Irma) had required 30-40,000.

Got more troops on the ground. 

Got food and water there quicker.

Visited it personally before the 13 days it actually took him.

Not Insisted the death toll was just 16 or 17 at the time when EVERYONE knew it was way higher.

So yeah, a few things.

6 hours ago, dcutman said:

A year and half or two to into this Witch hunt still nothing. When are we gonna see something to lead to indictments about Russia collusion?

Surely by the end of Trumps second term there should be something nailed down, right?

Many of you Trump fans have been following the narrative of Trump's solicitors and cronies (backed up by Fox news) to try and deflect this actual investigation to be about only one thing i.e. Trump's collusion with the Russians but the truth of the matter is the Mueller investigation is not just about 'collusion' and in fact the word 'collusion' isn't even on Mueller's special council appointment letter. The investigation is about investigating links or co-ordination between the Russian government and the Trump campaign and covers 5 very specific topics:

Financial dealings

Prosecutors are scrutinizing the financial dealings of President Trump's associates, including Mannafort's previous consulting work in Ukraine and the business practices of his personal lawyer (Cohen).

Russian interference

Mueller is examining how Russia intervened in the 2016 presidential campaign, including through the circulation of fake news and divisive Internet memes and the hacking of Democratic emails.

Campaign coordination

Investigating contacts between Trump's associates and people working on behalf of Russians to determine whether there is evidence that Trump's campaign conspired with Russia to interfere in the campaign (this is the collusion part).

Transition contacts

Looking into communications between the Russians and Trump officials during the transition period after Trump was elected but before his inauguration.

Obstruction of justice

Prosecutors are focusing on whether actions by Trump and his associates after he took office indicate an effort to obstruct the Russia investigation.

When you say 'A year and half or two to into this Witch hunt still nothing' is perhaps relevant as far as actual charges against Trump regarding collusion but with 100 criminal charges against 32 people to include 5 convictions and 27 indictment involving four former Trump advisers (all American), 26 Russian nationals, three Russian companies, one California man (American), and one London-based lawyer, you can hardly call that nothing 

Collusion is not the primary objective of the investigation but you can be damned sure it is just a matter of time before one of them rolls over (Manafort now being top of the list)  and points the finger at Trump himself.

But hey, this is all just facts. Something I know from experience that Trump fans doesn't usually like as it doesn't fit in with their absolute conviction that this is all some deep state apparatus witch-hunt after their Beloved Leader. 

It isn't and it will get to Trump in the end.   

Or in other words; - Donald Trump was today dragged kicking and screaming to sign an executive order against his mate Putin because he was getting too much heat for doing literally nothing about well documented interference.

I think that pretty much sums it up.

1 hour ago, BestB said:

How do you see no progress when there have been no tests, no threats , more talks with south.

 

i am certain if trump found a cure for cancer, some will spin it into a negative and will milk it to death.

You mean apart from:

• North Korea's only official nuclear enrichment site at Yongbyon being upgraded.
• The country stepping up enrichment at two or more secret sites besides Yongbyon.
• Pyongyang continuing to produce more mobile launch vehicles for its ballistic missiles.
• Expanding missile production of solid fuel engines which are more mobile and easier to launch.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-44679144

Yeah they've REALLY been going all out to denuclearise.

33 minutes ago, Boon Mee said:

And there are millions of Americans who feel just the opposite. Trump was elected to clean out the entrenched deep state and the result you see are these people attempting to nullify the 2016 election which put the right person in the White House 

But Boon me ol' Trumper fan, these people you refer to trying to 'nullify the 2016 election' are his OWN people!

We don't know who is talking to the NY Times but we do know they are part of Trump's administration and by Bannons own thoughts, the others are REPUBLICAN establishment. 

This 'deep state' nonsense smacks of conspiracy theories and 'tin-foil hat brigade' but there are obviously plenty of Republicans (and probably all of the Democrats) who have a real problem with Trump primarily because of how he is conducting himself as POTUS but also the damage he is doing to the Republican party. Now you can certainly say they are all undermining him but hasn't Trump brought this on himself with all the craziness that is now associated with the White House? 

You obviously think it's all their fault but doesn't it actually mean that for once they might be putting country before party and finally saying enough is enough, there's just too much damage being done for us to keep ignoring this.

23 hours ago, riclag said:

The CNN and NBC are all  Co conspirators in the Coup to take down a democratically elected POTUS! The  activist reporters along with their owners have co mingled with the Dem's  to sway public opinion of the POTUS admin .Some have payed kick backs to  FBI officials, according to the IG report. A Coup has nothing to do with Free Speech ,maybe treason!

You just went full tin foil man. 

Everyone knows you never go FULL tinfoil. 

2 hours ago, heybruce said:

 

Who should do the investigation?  Perhaps a newly created Department of Censorship and Propaganda?

 

 

Why don't you identify a few of these inaccurate stories?

 

 

Same as above:  What ridiculous stories?

 

 

"Imagine that you consistently catch a friend President in lies. And when you confront your friend President with the facts, they double down with bigger lies. Will you ever trust that friend President again?"

 

I fixed if for you.  And no, I will never trust this President.

Why don't you identify a few of these inaccurate stories?

You might as well ask ol' Boon if he can tell you next weeks lottery numbers. There's never a cohesive argument or anything resembling facts with most Trumpers and ol' Boon heads the list . It's just the usual, tired, blind backing of their Beloved Leader regardless of how many stories come out to the contrary, to include every major reputable news channel imaginable.

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Soooooo, what's a real American President like then. A womaniser like Kennedy and Clinton, someone that racks up trillions of debt like Obama, or someone that starts wars based on erroneous information like Bush? Or perhaps, someone that was just not very good, like Carter.

Back to the OP; Sessions must know that he's gone as soon as the elections are over. He should retain whatever dignity he has left by resigning now. He's been worse than bad, given he recused himself almost the moment he walked in the door. Even a bad AG can support his boss against internal foes, but Sessions just hasn't been there at all while Trump has been attacked from all sides. Perhaps he was a Trojan horse.

Yet more deflection from one of Trumps biggest fans here on T.V. 

So the biggest insults you can throw at Kennedy and Clinton is that they were womanisers.... which is a bit rich considering who you are defending.

Obama racks up trillions in debt.....you mean after inheriting the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression; the Bush tax cuts that severely reduced tax receipts and wars in Afghanistan and Iraq? Considering Trump has already added a $trillion to the national debt just since he has been in office and this is expected to climb dramatically over the years - just so he can give the rich a tax break they don't need or deserve - then this is a spurious argument at best, downright ridiculous at worst.

But hey, at least we agree on Bush..... another clueless Republican.

And on your final point....it's now all Sessions fault that he is now doing the job he was hired for? First of all this was Trumps hire and as AG his job is to represent the United States (not the president) in legal matters. Trump is just bitter that he recused himself from the Mueller investigation and is now doing the job he was hired for rather than the what Trump wants him to do. Trump has struggled from the beginning with the idea that he is not CEO of America Corp. but rather part of a mechanism governed by the rule of law. He would rather America was an autocracy and himself the Dictator and Chief but the rule of law will not bend to his derangement and he's getting more frustrated as time goes on.

And if you think that funneling money to the rich, demonising immigrants, discriminating against the LGBT community, trying to take healthcare from the needy, encouraging hate groups and throwing your own intelligence services under the bus in favour of foreign powers is what the US is all about, then it's not just your Beloved Leader that's the problem, it's you as well.  

16 hours ago, tropo said:

LOL. Yes, he made it clear that Trump wasn't welcome.

 

LOL> not a Trumper, just a citizen from another country that looks at things that happen in the US more objectively, unlike people like you who are so emotionally charged you can't think straight.

 

From the outside, McCain is just another old politician that did what all people do when they get old - die. He's was 81and had a privileged life. Good and bad politicians die every day in other countries, without all the circus and fanfare that you folk enjoy so much.

 

 

Taken as a singular event then of course it would be fairly inconsequential but it's not a singular event is it? This is the latest in a stream of incidents that highlight the issue with this man as president and is likely to not be the last. 

The McCain 'no-invite' just demonstrates again what Trump fans don't want to admit which is the man has no decorum, no filter and definitely has no class. 

You don't need to be 'emotionally charged' to recognise this. You just have to have eyes and ears.  

1 hour ago, tropo said:

There was no need to state that Trump wasn't welcome because he wouldn't have attended anyway. That was just about turning his funeral into a political circus. I suppose it was his funeral, so why not take one final swipe at Trump.

So Trump, a sitting president, doesn’t  get invited to a state funeral but that’s somehow McCains fault?

So was it also Barbara Bushs fault that he wasn’t welcome at that funeral either?

Trump has dragged the presidency down to its lowest level ever with his puerile insults and gutter politics yet he is never to blame in the blinkered eyes of you Trumpers. It’s always someone else’s fault, always the “elite” out to ostracize him. 

Well expect these as the first of many “non-invites” for this man as he slowly but surely erodes America’s influence on the world stage and drags the US back decades in its world standing. 

But hey, the stock market and MAGA right?

Trump - 'I like people that weren't captured'

Every sane person on the planet - 'I like presidents who don't get barred from funerals'

'Trump said in the Holt interview, "regardless of recommendation, I was going to fire Comey knowing there was no good time to do it And in fact, when I decided to just do it, I said to myself — I said, you know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story. It’s an excuse by the Democrats for having lost an election that they should’ve won.”

Don't you love it when he still tries to blame the Democrats when he, a Republican President fired a Republican FBI Director and get's all righteous fury over his Republican Attorney General allowing his Republican deputy to assign a Republican former FBI Director to investigate him?

You just couldn't make this up.

10 hours ago, uncleeagle said:

He didnt express a 50s view and it isnt true that women are biased because of male oppression or being told they cant do X but they can do Y. The same biases exist in countries such as Sweden which have been pushing hard line gender equality and opportunity for decades. His view simply reflected known and accepted scientific fact that biological differences exist and men and women do not make the same choices. 

 

He was fired for stating accepted scientific fact...science of the 2000s not the 1950s.

 

 

 

 

You seem to be somewhat obsessed by this one person despite the fact that Google employs 85,000 people.... but I'll answer yours and this guy's obvious gender bias. 

The real truth is there is no scientific reasoning or fact to back up your or this idiots bias with the closest you will get being either nature v nurture (women are pigeon-holed more easily through nurture) or physical (we all accept that women cannot physically perform the same as men). There is no basis in science to say that women cannot do what men can do cerebrally.  The engineer in question wrote a 10 page memo arguing that  'The distribution of preferences and abilities of men and women differ in part due to biological causes... "  He was then sacked because this went against Google's code of conduct by "advancing incorrect assumptions about gender". Now if you can produce a peer reviewed science paper confirming this guys bias then I'll gladly  take this all back but with the exception of spatial awareness, you will find nothing that says men perform better than women in any cerebral capacity.

Getting back to the topic of this discussion though.

Whilst doing a bit of research to counter-argue your points I Googled 'Googles sacks employee' and despite this being controversial for Google the search results came up with literally pages upon pages of results. If you then want to follow this to it's logical conclusion, Trump's moan that Google is manipulating it's search results to reflect badly on himself and stifle right wing commentary doesn't pass muster as wouldn't they start this supposed censoring by getting rid of less than complimentary articles about themselves? You can test this with other searches too. Try:

'Google a terrible place to work' or 'I hate Google' or anything derogatory against them. The results still come up because there is no bias. The reason Trump gets such bad results is simply because most people hate him. And Google records that and gives you an accurate result. 

It's that simple.