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This thread has just exposed the hypocrisy and double standards of the left, Democrats and how the mainstream media creates division

The media lies incited arson attacks on Teslas and tesla dealerships.

1 hour ago, Zaphod Priest said:

 

Wrong way around.  Trump is Putin's poodle.  Precisely what it is that Putin has over Trump isn't clear.  Maybe the pee pee tape.  Maybe something else.  But Trump is completely beholden to Putin.

You still clinging to that old nonsense,

he has something on Trump,  but nobody knows what and he's never used it. 🤡

Well, seems like the Ukrainian puppet who campaigned on bringing peace with well and truely having his strings pulled, I hope Putin strikes back with immediate immense retaliation and hopefull takes out the zman and whoever warmongers he has around him.

1 minute ago, JAG said:

 

I would suggest that you both need to take into account reality. As I said, NATO is an association of Sovereign States. Ukraine is a Sovereign State. Russia has no rights to dictate policy to either.

 

The invasion of Panama is entirely irrelevant - other perhaps than as an example of a strong nation abusing it's strength to bully a weaker nation.

Like the bully USA have been doing for last 50yrs.

24 minutes ago, jvs said:

Maybe have a look at the laws in the Ukraine?

Elections are not held during time of war.

 

Hence dragging it out to as is happening now.

perhaps Putin should just take out the Actor US style and bring an end to it all, they seem to get away with it.

22 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Trump will do nothing, he's a big bag of wind. Putin plays him like a fiddle.

 

He tried to browbeat Zelensky into giving in, that didn't work either.

Zelenskey is surviving purely on NATO aid, getting his country further and further into debt, and when its all over he will disappear and the country will be left to suffer for decades. 

He is illegitimate now for over 1 year. They should hold elections and let the people choose, imagine the bleating you'd all be doing if Trump was the Zman. 

Those double standards in full effect again

2 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

It is a real ailment requiring professional and specialised support. Similarly to addictions, the first step will be for the sufferers to admit they have a problem.

 

"Hello, I am [AN member name] and I have "Trump D******ment S******e".

Yeah, the whole political soapbox may as well be renamed the 'acronym forum' its 99% anti Trump.

5 minutes ago, JAG said:

NATO is a treaty organisation, made up from independent sovereign states, who choose to be members.

 

It is not for Russia to tell them what they can or cannot do, not who can be a member.

 

Ukraine is an independent sovereign state. It has been for the last 34 years - since 1991. 

 

It is not for Russia to tell them what they can or cannot do, nor whether they  can be a member of NATO, or indeed of the EU.

 

Russia has invaded Ukraine, which I will say again, is an independent sovereign state. It seeks to defend itself against such aggression. That is the simple reality. 

 

 

 

 

Yawn!, whatever, not going to waste time going over AGAIN about no NATO expansion East, that was agreed in the early 90's its been mentioned many times and flat out denied by the usual posse here.

They've had their programming and that's it. Some even deny words on record, spoken by the NATO chief.

Remember how hysterical the Yanks got over Russia and Cuba... but you all seem to think its fine for US weapons on Putins border. Hypocrisy and double standards at its finest from the western propaganda macnine and its useful idiots.

43 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

Ukraine didn't use up its last card at all. It played a card no one even knew they had, and to devastating effect.

Russia never changed their ridiculous demands because they do not want a ceasefire.

Because a ceasefire just meant rearming of Ukraine.

If you think for 1 second that any of the countries propping up Ukraine are doing it for the Ukrainian people then someone should Photoshop a red nose on your profile picture. 

On 6/1/2025 at 1:15 PM, BarraMarra said:

Yesterday Saturday here in the UK we saw the arrival of over a Thousand illegal Migrants crossing the English Channel bringing the numbers of nearly 15,000 so far this year. Yesterday's arrivals was akin to an Armada with over 5 Boats arriving. All the Invaders because that's what they are were mostly under 30 yrs of age and there were no woman or children sat in the boats. The number of Isis or Al Qaeda that have entered the UK is unknown posing as immigrants from Syria and Afghan. Our PM Starmer has now lost control of the borders he boasts he will " Smash " the gangs he has done nothing and is turning a blind eye to the numbers. All media except GB News is refusing to film any boats arriving or reporting on it. The French have been given Millions of pounds to prevent them leaving French beaches but we have seen videos showing French pat

rol vessels handing out life vests. Some now are believing Islamists are entering the UK ready to take over the UK. 

Well, the US & UK recently removed Al Queda from the terrorism list because they helped Israel remove assad, so theyre friendly terrorists now.

22 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

 

You come across as someone who thinks tossing around buzzwords substitutes for substance — but your post shows you don’t grasp diplomacy, enforceability, or even the basics of critical reasoning.
 

You keep calling it a “genuine offer,” but Hitchens’s Razor applies: what can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. And you’ve provided none.
 

Your argument leans heavily on a salad of logical fallacies:
 

– Begging the Question – Assuming the offer was legitimate, then using that assumption as proof of its legitimacy.

– Straw Man – Recasting my argument as a complaint about all guarantees, instead of what it was: a critique of trusting a regime actively violating prior agreements.

– False Equivalence – Comparing the challenges of enforcing normal treaties to accepting an ultimatum from an invader is bad logic — and worse diplomacy.

– Appeal to Futility – Dismissing enforceability concerns by claiming no guarantee is enforceable — then turning around and suggesting the UN Security Council, where Russia has veto power, as your solution.

– Tu Quoque – Suggesting Ukraine’s flaws justify Russia’s actions doesn’t defend your argument — it dodges it.

– Assertion-as-Evidence – Stating something repeatedly doesn’t make it true. It just makes it louder.

Frankly, your post feels disingenuous: all assertion, no proof, and riddled with logical fallacies.

Try again — this time with evidence, not rhetoric.

Where as your proof is quotes of articles from Ukrainian & western media, allied with the current western narrative.

5 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Was Bookers National Socialist salute the same as Musks?

What's bookers claim to fame? having a 24hour trump rant 

Just a coincedence this attack happens days after Lindsey Grahams visit, didnt he said 'he'd act without Trump' Graham is John Bolton without the moustache & glasses, Trump needs to bin him off

Bernie sold out in 2015 when he endorsed (k) illery after she cheated him from winning.

Since he only has him anti Trump stance... oh, and his properties

33 minutes ago, Etaoin Shrdlu said:

 

Are you able to see gravity directly?

Yes

The great climate scam, the invisible bogeyman

19 hours ago, LosLobo said:

It’s ironic. Just as Ho Chi Minh turned to the Soviets and Chinese after the U.S. ignored his pleas for support against French colonialism, Trump-style isolationism today could push other nations — especially those under threat — to turn to China or Russia by necessity, not ideology.
 

When the U.S. steps back from global leadership or abandons allies, it doesn’t create peace — it creates a vacuum. And history shows who steps in.

You mean like what happened in Libya after it was destroyed by the west?

Some just cannot go a single  day without Trump bashing

On 6/1/2025 at 5:25 PM, SunnyinBangrak said:

Is that illegal now? I'll tell you what is not legal, a 40 odd year old teacher raping an underage student. Are you righfully complaining about this pedophilia? No you are ranting about Trumps private life. 

Everyone gets a pass.... because TRUMmmP😡😡

5 minutes ago, liddelljohn said:

Until Putin dies there is zero chance of any peace in Ukraine or an end to the proxy attacks all over Europe ,, we need to give Ukraine  better longer range weapons  so they can shower the kremlin with explosions 

All over Europe...jeez, youre brainwashing is top level

On 6/1/2025 at 6:53 PM, candide said:

Apparently it's ok for Putin to invade other countries and slaughter civilians including kids....

I dont see anything from you regarding the Russians killed in the latest Ukrainian attack, 2 bridges collapsed killing several... silence from the hypocritical bunch