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Strange that you don't get the "bottom line", because it is simply that, good, honest and intelligent Americans do not want this poor excuse for a human being elected as their president, and the reason is that it says so much about them if he is. There is nasty rhetoric on both sides, but if you want to look at the root cause, look no further than trump's lies and rants against the Democrats and Harris – – truly despicable and not worthy of a presidential candidate but more worthy of a poorly educated (yes, he was not a good/intelligent student) grifter. And I'm not sitting here in a state of angst, more in a state of total disbelief that any normal, educated person would cast a vote for this compulsive liar and despicable human being.......maybe he has cornered the "poorly educated" market, but they will soon find out that he is not their saviour, mainly because he has no idea on how to run an economy and the poorly educated and lower class will be hit hardest by his ignorance, inability and desire to please his rich buddies.

Well he has mentioned Hitler in his ramblings, but I left that part out so that it wouldn't upset the MAGA crowd, but it seems they are very touchy about trump and his misdemeanors and really don't want to face up to them! Convicted by the American judicial system and process.........nothing wrong with that, but you seem to think so.. Why not, he cheated on her just as she gave birth and it would seem that she has never truly forgiven him.

A recent post by @Mazungu was deemed unacceptable because it came from a "social media" website and according to the AN rules and regulations and was therefore closed. I for one, have no problems with that because the integrity of the AN website and posts has to be kept intact. However some of the content did raise a few questions for me and I would like to explore these in my own words, rather than it being deigned "typical standard swill from a leftist website...... so the questions I have for the trump supporters are as follows: – – Why do you throw your support behind a convicted felon, and yes they are bona fide convictions and not from "lefties" as you tend to label them? – How on earth can you support a man who helped incite the first attack on the US capital since 1812, to attempt a coup which could have possibly succeeded if it weren't for a VP who stood staunch against this attack. And before the answers take the "it was only a minor rally" route, then consider how many of the attackers have been jailed so far, found guilty by juries containing both GOP and Democrat supporters? – If you are looking for a president who is basically honest (and please don't come back at me with the standard quip; all politicians lie response), because maybe they do tell the occasional untruth, but trump has been documented as having told over 30,000 lies and mistruths during and after his presidency so how do you support a man like that? – He has cheated on his wives, paid hookers hush money to keep quiet and demeaned women in general, so has very low to non-existent morals. – Rather than take up too many pages, this will be the last; he has denigrated an American war hero and American war veterans and mocked the disabled, so how can you support a "so-called" man like this. Finally, trump is not respected by other world leaders because they have first-hand experience of speaking with him, that he is not the "sharpest knife in the drawer" and the CEOs from America's top companies have labelled him "dumb" and "he doesn't know what he's talking about"! Surely their word has to mean something in today's world??

I am so pleased that I found this in a post by @Bkk Brian, because it correlates precisely with something which I viewed on BBC World News a few days ago and wondered why it had not been bought to light by others? The BBC World News was showing coverage of the Israeli/Hamas conflict and was interviewing a Palestinian woman in an area which was recently bombed and which was supposedly an area in which Palestinians could shelter safely, but what the woman said was quite an "eye-opener" in relation to a question put to her regarding the Israeli bombing (which supposedly did kill a Hamas operative or two), when she said, "I don't know why the Israelis are doing this because Hamas are only trying to protect us". IMO she has been brainwashed by Hamas into allowing them to move freely amongst the Palestinians and set up areas from which they can attack Israel, and this coincides very closely to the post I have quoted.

A wonderful post with facts/truths in it........the problem being that the trump cultists just turn a blind eye to trump's Incessant lying and abhorrent behaviours and traits even though they are recorded and poven, and still support the poor excuse for a human being, and as I said in another post, if this abomination is elected president then it surely says something about the US that the rest of the world should be wary of, i.e. electing a convicted felon, a proven liar and someone who is ridiculed by many other leaders around the world speaks volumes about the state of the US now.

Only in a circus or freak show by the look of that pic!!

Perhaps his biggest threat, at least to the US economy, and of course its citizens apart from the billionaires, is that he replaces income tax with tariffs. Now that will probably appeal to the MAGA/poorly educated cultists, but it could spell disaster for the US. Read on..... Trump’s goal to impose tariffs on all imports into the United States could raise a lot of money for the federal Government, but it would not be nearly enough to replace income taxes. The United States imports roughly US$3 trillion worth of goods annually, while the country collected roughly US$4.2 trillion in income and payroll taxes last fiscal year. Overall, his agenda would raise taxes on low-income Americans, provide a tax break for the richest and drastically increase the deficit, according to an analysis from the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy. A challenge for raising revenue from tariffs is that placing a tax on imports tends to cut the amount of trade – and therefore reduce the amount of revenue collected from tariffs. Raising tariff rates high enough to try to replace income taxes could end trade with the United States, said Wendy Edelberg, a former chief economist at the Congressional Budget Office. Steep tariffs could prompt foreign trading partners to retaliate with tariffs of their own, reducing US exports and slowing economic growth. Trump has experience with this phenomenon: while President, he wound up having to bail out American farmers whose exports to China slumped during a protracted trade war. The buffoon clearly hasn't thought this through........but not surprising given his limited mental capacity.

A couple of weeks ago he also said he crash landed in a helicopter, and also that he was a top student at university, whereas one of his tutors said that he was, "plain dumb". If anyone believes a narcissistic, compulsive liar and convicted felon, then they really need to get some help.

Certainly I will be disappointed if trump is elected president, simply because he is unworthy of the position and has no redeeming qualities whatsoever to be in it. However there will be no "coping and seething" on my part because it will simply mean that the US poorly educated have elected a dumb, dipstick and they will have gotten what they deserve. Som nam na!

Then of course you have the garbled nonsense delivered by trump at his Republican get together and it makes the "word salad" (your words) by Kamala Harris look absolutely magnificent! Trump is brain-dead, if indeed there was ever anything in there to die, and it's not getting any better as he slips into dementia – – pity the poor USA if the "poorly educated" vote him in. At least one can say that they got what they deserved if he does succeed!

A surprise chuckle at the end........ VIDEO-2024-07-01-20-00-07.mp4

I think this protester has a very good point and there is certainly a ring of truth about it, don't you think? LOL.

Many thanks to the poster who mentioned/recommended the series "Black Bird" as I'm three quarters of the way through the series and found it to be enjoyable – – not brilliant but worth a watch. Apparently based on a true story.

You are just proving that you fit into the category that trump likes his supporters to be in. Oh well, nothing I can do about that, so rest easy in your ignorance.

So sue the man and win in court. Take him down! Said @Talon But this poster is not being honest because if anyone were to sue trump in a court of law, with trump's lawyers and his "heavyweights", they would get nowhere, or indeed they would have to settle for a few cents in the dollar, as has often been the situation in cases like this. In fact it more often than not it costs the plaintiff more than they've actually invested or can reclaim, so this poster is playing games and is not being honest, so best ignore him, mainly because he doesn't live in the real world, just the trumpie Maga one, best ignored. Here is an example of one investor who believed trump's promises and lost big time, and there are many others. Trump is a grifter, conman and thief...... Flint is a retired financial planner who wanted to buy a vacation home for his family. In 2007, after seeing a new development planned for a location in Baja, Mexico, he put down a deposit so he could have a beachfront getaway just one hour from San Diego. Trump plugged the property in a promotional video as if he were the builder. "I'm very, very proud of the fact that when I build, I have investors that follow me all over. They invest in me, they invest in what I build, and that's why I'm so excited about Trump Ocean Resort," Trump said in the video. Flint said although he received a settlement payment, he still lost six figures. "The settlement was for nowhere near the amount of money that we had invested in the project," Flint said. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gop-candidate-donald-trump-licenses-his-name-real-estate-lawsuits-over-failed-developments/

So sue the man and win in court. Take him down! Now you are going from "they are all lies" to "so sue him and and take him down" which is not easy with the trump entourage of lawyers AND YOU KNOW IT! Thanks Danderman 123, and this as well.......the millions he grifted. https://www.borderreport.com/regions/mexico/years-later-investors-in-never-built-trump-baja-property-still-hurting-yet-to-see-money-back/ According to the Los Angeles Times, Sapol is one of 250 investors, mostly from Southern California, who collectively lost $32.5 million. Lawyers were willing to represent Sapol in a class-action lawsuit against Trump and other developers, but they wanted $5,000 up front. “And my husband is like, ‘We’re not spending another dime on this property, we’re going to cut our losses,'” Sapol said. Donald Trump’s Last (We Hope) Grift…. Trump Baja is a classic Trumpian swindle: grandiose promises that shatter like cheap glass against the hard, unyielding edges of reality. For a man who became famous for his forays into the brick-and-mortar business of real estate, Trump has thrived and survived by jumping from one lily pad of fantasy to another, saved at critical moments during his career by bankruptcies and loans, not to mention ordinary Americans willing to hand him their money and their trust. Angry Investors and a Big Hole Are All That Remain from Donald Trump’s Baja Condo Project https://timesofsandiego.com/business/2023/04/18/angry-investors-and-a-big-hole-are-all-that-remain-from-donald-trumps-baja-condo-project/ The planned 26-story building overlooking the Pacific Ocean never got off the ground. Trump would at first claim he simply licensed his name for the deal but later agreed to a confidential settlement with some investors. Apparently his role was more than he claimed. In a 2006 article, the San Diego Union-Tribune reported that Trump had told one of the reporters in an interview that he was a “significant” equity investor in the project. The investors who sued only got back $7.25 million from a co-developer of the project with Trump. There was also a confidential settlement with Trump covering about 100 investors.

An oldie but a goodie!!

Oh, but I do care and I can't see that importing and spruiking Chinese made goods to the poorly educated is going to help America one bit, nor will trump and his so-called plans for America, which the top CEOs in that country label as "a disaster", because "trump doesn't know what he's talking about" – – maybe you should be more frightened of him, not only because of what he's done, but because he doesn't know what he's talking about!

Oh, you poor soul, stop grieving for my home country, because the funds I have invested there are helping homebuyers/builders and therefore supporting the economy – – don't have to apologise! And in case you didn't know it, there are huge numbers of people living outside of their own country supporting the economies in which they live, and here is no different for me. Have a good day.

Whether you like it or not, trump has gone down in history as a multi-times bankrupt and a felon and it doesn't fit MY narrative, they are just the facts which you don't want to accept. So why don't you order one of your Chinese made MAGA hats, then order a pair of Chinese made gold sneakers, followed by a Bible printed in China, because they will all help the American working man, won't they! You are simply another rube who has joined the cult. And for the record, I am living my best life in Thailand, with funds aplenty in a couple of countries and a beautiful and intelligent Thai daughter living here, and I am still collecting wine as has been my hobby for 50 years, so thank you for your good wishes and why not post a pic of you with your Maga hat, sneakers and Bible.....would love to see it! Enjoy your Kool-Aid.

You will be shocked to learn that "All of the Chapter 11 bankruptcies by Trump’s businesses were submitted via a prepackaged bankruptcy, in which a deal had been reached with the creditors before filing. " So they were bankruptcies whichever way one looks at them........irrespective of the "prepackaged bankrupty" title you put on them?? So successful businessman trump cannot successfully run a company? And for the record.............. Trump and his foundation were forced to admit their fraud. https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/trump-admits-misusing-charity-funds-settles-lawsuit-against-trump-foundation-that-he-said-he-wouldnt-settle/Donald J. Trump Pays Court-Ordered $2 Million for Illegally Using Trump Foundation Funds Trump Ordered to Pay Eight Separate Charities $250,000 Each https://ag.ny.gov/press-release/2019/donald-j-trump-pays-court-ordered-2-million-illegally-using-trump-foundation (notice the term "illegally"). Trump University (also known as the Trump Wealth Institute and Trump Entrepreneur Initiative LLC) was an American company that ran a real estate training program from 2005 until 2010. It was owned and operated by The Trump Organization. Despite its name, the organization was not an accredited university or college. In 2011, the company became the subject of an inquiry by the New York Attorney General's office for illegal business practices which resulted in a lawsuit filed in August 2013.[6] An article in the National Review described the organization as a "massive scam". (Surely not by honest Don trump??). In November 2016, Trump agreed to settle a series of lawsuits related to the school for $25 million. The Four Bankruptcies which resulted in tradesmen losing money/not being paid millions owed.. The Undocumented Polish Workers …. In 1991, a federal judge found Trump and other defendants guilty of conspiring to avoid paying union pension and welfare contributions for the workers. Trump eventually settled out of court, paying an undisclosed sum. But the facts of the case were never in question: Trump’s company really did hire undocumented immigrants to build the Trump Tower. He merely argued he wasn’t aware of it, and it wasn’t his fault — even after a court ruled against him. There is a long list in….. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/01/donald-trump-scandals/474726/ The guy is a liar and a crook, proven time and time again. TRUMP HAS FILED FOR SIX BUSINESS BANKRUPTCIES and has had many failed businesses:- The Trump Taj Mahal in 1991 Trump Castle Hotel & Casino in 1992 and Trump Plaza Casino 1992 Trump Plaza Hotel 1992 Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts in 2004 Trump Entertainment Resorts in 2009 Not forgetting many other failed businesses….. Trumped!, Trump Steaks, Trump Network, GoTrump, Tour de Trump, Trump Airlines, 7. Trump Vodka, The New Jersey Generals, Trump Mortgage, Trump: The Game, Trump Magazine, Trump Ice and not forgetting Trump University! What more proof do you need that he is a thief and a conman, and not a very bright businessman (and a rapist). OOPS. Forgot to add proof that he is smart........

One has a hard job to understand MAGA trumpies way of thinking, not that there is any way of thinking, per se, but a way of twisting the truth and lying, so they don't see it for themselves. It can be seen throughout this and other threads that irrespective of what the law has said, irrespective of what guilty verdicts have been reached and passed and what has been recorded and as a matter of record, that the trumpies are either incapable of understanding, which would fit in quite nicely with trump's description of his favourite people, or they are just plain lying to themselves, and either way they show themselves for what they truly are. It is just so sad that there are so many of them in the USA, so maybe best to stop trying to have any discourse with these people of low IQ, because they are incapable of understanding plain facts and the truth.

So are you saying that trump never had six Bankruptcies to his name, that he never stole $2.1 million from one of his charities and was ordered to repay it (after pleading guilty to doing it) and has numerous other financial misdemeanours recorded against his name?? Pray tell which of the above is "leftist nonsense"?

Will this do for starters.......take off your MAGA tinted glasses and see CLEARLY what happened:- Members of far-right extremist groups. Former police officers. An Olympic gold medalist swimmer and active duty U.S. Marines are among the hundreds of people who have been convicted in the massive prosecution of the Jan 6, 2021 riot in the three years since the stunned nation watched the U.S. Capitol attack unfold on live TV. About 750 people have been sentenced, with almost two-thirds receiving some time behind bars. Prison sentences have ranged from a few days of intermittent confinement to 22 years in prison. The longest sentence was handed down to Enrique Tarrio, the former Proud Boys national chairman who was convicted of seditious conspiracy for what prosecutors described as a plot to stop the transfer of power from Trump, a Republican, to Joe Biden, a Democrat.

If Americans believe that load of BS, then that just goes to prove that they are well below the average IQ. Not only that, should the orange buffoon make it to the White House, then many of the policies he has been espousing will result in financial hardships for Americans (but they are not intelligent enough to understand that). There again, looking on the bright side, if trump is elected, then the US will have the lying, cheating, morally bankrupt president that they deserve and hopefully this moron will fade from the scene either through senility/dementia or eating himself into an early grave.