FruitPudding

Why would you invest in something incredibly illiquid? It's not like the West where you can easily sell your house in days or weeks and they'll be bidding 20% over your asking price. He's asking about investment property, not a home for himself. Naturally, therefore, he will want his money back one day and to see a return on investment to make it worthwhile.

Yeah, but that's a little short sighted. One day he'll probably be a seller. Then, there's a good chance he won't be able to sell at a reasonable price making decent return on investment; he'll get his pants pulled down on the price to sell within a reasonable timeframe.

Well, maybe for you. Everyone is different, of course. The concept of applying for a visa in advance and then being stamped into the country probably isn't that hard for most people to wrap their heads around, regardless of what you call it. Immigration loosely refers to extension of stay as a "visa". Also, "Visa on Arrival" effectively is a visa-free permission to stay, yet they officially call it a "visa" on arrival, nonetheless. Also, the stamp that immigration puts in your passport when you arrive does not actually say anything like "permission to stay." It says, "visa class" and then it has the date you are admitted until based on the visa you have. We should really do a poll to see how many people find the terminology an import factor for understanding their visa rules.....or, I mean.... permission-to-stay rules,.... jeez it's just so hard, I'm getting confused now; I fear I might overstay. Lol. Anyway, I maintain that the guys on here who split hairs over the technical difference between the two are just trying to be a smarty pants (and probably cause more confusion to the novice traveler reading it, actually).

What did Trump do back then?

At least the bar girls are honest. Well, slightly more honest than their "regular job" counterparts.

Property here has gone up around 5% a year anyway, in good areas, for the last decade. The OP is getting almost that, risk free in the bank, totally liquid. If he rents it out, then okay.

Nope, not a chance. But I wouldn't marry any girl. I really don't see much difference between 90% of them and bar girls, tbh.

The area doesn't really matter. You'll likely make nothing on it. There's no liquidity. You'd be lucky to get your money back. The first coconut who comes to view it when you want to sell is gonna offer you half of what you want for it; it's a buyers market.

No.

As the title says: what wheels you got?

Right, cos they didn't look at the stamp immigration put in their passport. What you call that stamp makes no difference though, right?

The only way that would happen is if the person didn't understand the rules of the visa they applied for and were given.................. nothing to do with the terminology.

Exactly. You've paid for the visa and it was granted. You are allowed to stay for that duration, unless the officer refuses you entry to the country for some reason

If the officer had said, "You are being fined and blacklisted for exceeding your permission to stay" what difference would it make? 'Visa' and 'permission to stay' carry virtually the same meaning in pretty much everyone's mind and can be used synonymously without causing any confusion in the normal person (despite the technical difference between the two).

I already acknowledged that technical detail, but pointed out that it's completely redundant to make that distinction while someone is still within the timeframe of their initial visa. The terminology doesn't matter in this case. Of course, once your initial visa time period is over and you get an extension year after year, it's pretty clear that you are no longer on the original visa and are on an extension of stay. The terminology can matter in this case.

Yeah, and there's really no need to split hairs with terminology if someone is still on their initial visa.

Lol. Let's look at an example. You can stay for up to two months on a tourist visa. The immigration officer at the airport authorizes this duration by putting a stamp in your passport when you arrive. It makes sense to say you are on a 2 month tourist visa. It's just a silly smarty pants thing to say that "technically" you are on a permit-to-stay and it makes no sense to point that out in this example. It serves no purpose other than to try to look smart. Even immigration officers still refer to it as a visa, lol. They don't say, " Your visa ended when you arrived in the country, now we prefer to call it a permit-to-stay" ???? It's only clever Thaivisa members who talk this way. ???? Making the distinction between a visa and a permit/extension of stay only makes sense after your visa has expired and you get an extension at the immigration office. For example, if the tourist was to get a 30 day extension after the their initial 2 month visa is up. It makes sense to refer to it as an extension-of-stay then, but not before.

I get that, lol. I haven't left the country in a decade, so I know what extensions of stay are. After your visa expires, you are on an extension of stay. Emphasis on: AFTER your visa expires. Before that you are still on your visa and it inherently has a duration that your are allowed to stay for. And it's possible to overstay the visa.

Exactly my point. Thank you. Lol. The immigration officer stamps you for the duration allowed by your visa. How are you managing to do mental gymnastics to say that visas don't have a time duration that you can overstay?

Then why do visas come with a specific duration (e. g. tourist visa is 2 months)? If you stay longer than this you've overstayed your visa, right?

I'll never understand why they have such a problem with just letting people pass by in front of them. Though, this is the first time I've known them to take on a train in their game. How does this mentality get ingrained? I don't think it's explicitly taught, yet from a young age you can observe this in Thais. If anyone has ever worked at a busy school, they'll know that even the kids don't let you pass by in front of them in the corridors -- they'll move in front quickly so that you have to walk behind them -- which is quite challenging when it's crowded and they all do the same thing, so you inevitabley get blocked and have to stopped. Same can be observed in a taxi. The drivers seem very adverse to going in behind someone; they'd rather push in front. Is it a loss of face thing: to let someone get in front of you rather than behind you? Or to choose to yield to someone, rather than get ahead of them?

I'll tell that to immigration next time they try to fine me for overstaying a tourist visa. Haha ???? So, why do they have overstay fines then for people who overstay their visa? ????

Interesting take What annoying accent? Mostly, I've noticed they have a sort of Queen's English accent or a neutral accent. Sometimes you'll hear the Africans accent come out here and there. I'm not sure about the superiority or inferiority chip on their shoulder, but if you are referring to white South Africans -and I'm guessing you are - didn't their government just decided to restrict water supply to white farmers? I saw on the news the black South Africans had a massive rally and were all chanting "kill white people" (if the translation on the news is accurate). I think if I came from I'd have a but more than a chip on my shoulder, lol. I'd be afraid of genocide.

Excellent.

That's not what I'm told. I know waitresses and massage therapists in local establishments. They say they get zero tips from Thais. And I've never seen a Thai guy leave a tip for his haircut in all the years I've been here. I mean just think if your kid was that waitress. Might make you think twice about tipping too.