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Oh you mean like in other countries too as they always seem to post "Fishing is not allowed" as even in other countries most of the locals would not realize the state or local rules either. IF police find one doing it in an unmarked location, they just inform those fishermen that it is illegal to fish there and no problems but here, they probable want a big fine and possible incarceration for several years.

Unless the US laws have changed, US police and other government officials cannot easily scan any private individual's account. I too realize that this has been done surreptitiously many times but it is still illegal to violate the privacy of citizen's without a court authorization. However, if on an open social media channel, one sees something that indicates criminal acty, once reported to officials, and authorized by the court, police or other officials can then scan any citizen's acty, private or not. But if anyone thinks that the US govt or any organization can easily scan EVERYONE's activity, the organization would have to have the populace of CHINA or INDIA to man the ear phones/look at data. Snowden revealed what was "collected" by the government, but not was "processed" illegally if any. As for the big social media companies, they are only selling data that one puts on that media freely just as WE do on this forum. It can be monitored by anyone and people should obviously be aware of that. Just saying.

Anyone that takes guesses from forum users is in the wrong forum since this one only has thousands of guesses and anyone scared from any of them is ignorant of the facts for sure. As for supplying a link, If you cannot find what I sent too bad for you but you are the one missing what I said was true. I was only quoting and if you don't like it or understand it you are the one missing the quote . I was just passing info that has been reported via the Thai Examiner several times. I do not waste my time of returning to month or more articles when one asks a makes an incorrect statement about one of the articles. You or anyone else if really interested can find it for yourselves or ignore it like I do many times. End of story for me.

Suggest anyone doubting what I quoted as being reported in articles of the Thai Examiner about the taxation of expats, then you should google "thai examiner", then on the economy section, scroll down to page 2 then look for the article of the interview with the thai Revenue Director about the 100,000 letters sent to locals about taxes, then continue scrolling down through several articles on the Thai economic situations, until you see the title about taxing foreign tax residents on all income whether it is remitted or not and then another article on "some expat tax residents face a tax bill of 71K baht a year and if still not settled whether or not expats are targets, it goes on to an article about the OECD agreement of 2023. What I fail to understand about some of the forum users, they immediatelylike to jump on users without checking all the facts first. It seems obvious to this OLD FART and computer ignorant that I can find these articles easily and tell people where they are - I just don't give one a link as i think people should know how to "search" for something on social media. If I can do it easily, then you younger folks should be more able to do it than me. I have been know to make a mistake now and then as to semantics but once I realize I was wrong I apologize because I don't want to mislead anyone but on this forum, and the taxation schemes immediate or probable are still mostly guesses anyway. Best of luck on your search.

I said that I read that bit about trhe thai revenue director's talk about taxing foreigners - mentioned first off about the 100,000 letters to locals about taxes, then later mentions on 1 Jan 2024 about taxing remitted funds, and then even further below there is an article about the worldwide income taxation of "FOREIGNERS". This is as I mentioned, I read in the Thai Examiner and I just checked it out and it is there so whether or not you believe it, I only mentioned what I had read as it seemed you missed the "foreigners" as targets for both taxation schemes, the one already implemented and the one under discussion. If you had continued reading that article it is just another article about taxation of worldwide income of foreigners. The article is the 2nd below the original about the 100,000 letters to locals, followed by another about tghe Thai economy then one entiltled "The Taxman now plans to tax foreigners on all income whether it is remitted into Thailand or not", then another article about "some expat tax residents face a tax bill of Baht 71K a year, then another about the OECD agreement of 2023. These are all under the original article of the Thai Revenu DIrector's note about the 100,000 letters to locals about their taxes. One would have thought you could read those articles lumped together in th Thai Examiner but guess you just wanted to jump on me because you couldn't see or read that article that I told you where to find it.

Especially since in the DTA, the Article 21 just following the SS Article 20, specifically mentions that US govt pensions could be taxed by Thailand if the recipient is a Thai tax-resident and also a Thai native. This is one question that I am sure will be thought about by the Thai Revenue Department.

I as an American often give my opinion about an issue on this forum for Brits, Aussies, Germans, etalia as this is an open forum and I am a member and welcome any info on interesting issues, especial those issues that could affect all expats. I especially liked this addition by a "Brit" (I guess) as it could affect all of us and I too would welcome the response as to what RD office advised that we might ALL be under the microscope for taxation purposes.

suggest you read the Thai evenue definition of a Thai Tax Resident. I read the version of the Thai Examiner and in that version she specifically says foreigners but any foreigner who stays in Thai for 180 days or more is considered by the Thai government to be a "TAX RESIDENT"

I think that the royal exemption states that the exemption can be removed by the DIR Gen of the Thai Revenue Dept so unless they want several thousand complainers by removing that exemption, I think it will stand but then again TIT. I am not worried since my only income is a US govt Pension and then they would have to inform the US govt that they are tossing that international agreement too which I don't think they will do either but....

Agree that some of the expats will have quite a varied financial life and the more varied, the more important it is to keep great detailed documentation just in case.... be able to protect your stand in my opinion. Hopefully very few will actually have any problems this first year until we all see how well the RD did plan to tackle the new schemes.

THis is the same ol' crap we have been seeing since they came out with the scheme. Agents and other forum members here are still just guessing as the RD hasn't come out with any changes or updates that have been published anyway. Maybe when the "new" tax forms reportedly will come out in Nov or Dec will have something new in them. Until then I am only continuing to glance through these messages. Good luck to all this tax season.

Ask me again after Nove 6Th

Yeah AS soon as I got the 1099R (w2 equivalent of earnings and taxes paid and health insurance paid for the previous year (required by law to provide to taxpayer by end of January and normally the govt office provides it around 20 January - I filed immediately and IRS accepted the forms by the end of January and I had a refund check by 7 February. But my only income is a Govt pension so I have no assessable income to file in thailand IAW the DTA. But, I can only imagine that unless they get a bunch of extra funds that the Thai govt via the Revenue Department will be looking at some means to force the expats to begin getting a TIN and then filing but a negative tax owed - perhaps when the new tax forms come out reportedly in Nov or Dec, it will indicate non-assessable income (govt pension, ss for US) or exemption via the LTR - we will hopefully see - otherwise I don't plan to get a TIN nor file any tax forms unless the current laws are changed. Best of luck to all.

The way I have heard it, ifone does have assessable income remitted here or earned here and follows the tax laws here, then one must get a Thai tax ID. I guess the tax forms once they are updated later this year, will be available on line and then one can see if they understand the forms or will take it to an agency dealing with the farang tax payers. YOU supposedly will be the one that determines how much you will be required to pay - or the agency will advise you plus their fees. Good luck! Also you should be aware of any details in a Double Taxation Agreement if your country has one will Thailand.

True if your pension is DTA protected but, the Thai govt may know how much you remitted so they might ask you to prove how much is protected by the DTA or where the pension and ss came from. And again maybe not too as they probably will be buried by those that do have assessable income remitted this year. Good luck

If no assessable income then you don't have to file a tax return...you might get audited but if you can prove the remittance was from prior savings there should be no problem. but TIT and I am no expert but this is my understanding of assessable and non-assessable income remitted. Good luck

In addition, parents have the responsibility to explain about sexual abuses even minor ones, and assure their child that there will be no negative consequences from the parents if the child advises them of such activity by any teacher, adult or other students or anyone!

If one has been noticing the stories around the world (mostly developed nations but some developing) the birth rates are dropping drastically to negative growth in populations just as you mentioned about bringing children into this world. The biggest reason most claim is COSTS of everything continue to rise and jobs and pay continue to shrink. Like the US - used to be that the "American dream" was home ownership - now in many states the cost of the average starter house is over a million USD or way more than any average person could afford. Guess that is why I and many other retirees are in Paradise Thailand...wonder how long this will last. Have a great Thursday!

TIT, the rich and powerful

AMEN! to all of that!

in the 70's I was assigned to BKK, we were told regularly NEVER to swim in the waters around Pattaya as the water was polluted. Guess some things just never change.

years ago on one of the islands south of Manila, with a port town with a river from the mountainside where they were logging, at about 2AM one morning in a storm, the cut logs had washed into the river and clogged it up so it formed into a huge dam. At that moment, the logs broke loose which allowed a WALL of water several meters tall to wash down the river and engulf the town. I think the total deaths were somewhere between 5000 to 7500 but all were washed away! Denuded mountains in heavy rains are known to have big landslides. Just look around the world today!.

as long as anyone is connected to money, there are escapes from just about any crime. We have seen that in many cases and even when people go to court get a favorable verdict, are supposed to receive monies from the rich folks in many cases they never receive what the court has ordered, even when they go back more than once tryiing to get JUSTICE! doesn't happen here all the time.

I was in Djkarta for a while, it was like any western city. Women wore western clothes. People seemed happy. The problems with that country are in the islands where radicals live and radicalize others. As for radicalization - many blacks in US prisons also coming from very poor areas join these bad folks. I sure have no fixes for anywhere nor any religions. Just look at me, an American retiree living in what seems like Paradise most of the time. Best of luck to all.

Yessir, and guess where he is looking for future soldiers - the 200K or more children kidnapped by the Russains and orphaned into Russian families. He is definitely a maniac!