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1 hour ago, darrendsd said:The only plus point in all this rubbish is that they are not asking for proof of booked or cancelled flights as i'm sure I have read they are asking for in other threads
Having to take the house owner is a joke
Immi officer : Does this person live at the house
House Owner : Yes
What more could they possibly ask them than that? If you have a contract and the owners ID etc then that it is all the proof they need
They could use an electric shocker on the owner and to ask the same question one more time.
To be serious, that “take your home owner with you” is there to justify a refusal for extension. And what kind of wording is that: ‘take the owner with you’? As if the owner was a part of your personal stuff.- 1
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8 minutes ago, TJR1981 said:
Yep number 10 is ridiculous. They gave us that form yesterday when we went to the immigration in Laem Ngop. We live in Maehongson and are just down here on vacation away from the smoke up north. Not quite sure how we are supposed to make number 10 happen.
According to the document a friend sent us in Chiang Mai the attached is the only thing you need to fill out for the extension up in Chiang Mai.
These are specifics of Thailand. The different immigration offices have different requirements for the same type of visa extension. Which leads me to think that most of the troubles we face in places like Jomtien or Trat have a root in not so high level government officers’ voluntary decisions.
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3 minutes ago, samisaurus said:
Is this also required from people extending a tourist visa ?
I think it depends on if this is your first extension or the second one.
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28 minutes ago, sapson said:
They state in the beginning that these are the requirements for people “who were affected by Covid and CANNOT DEPART”. So what if one who cannot depart at the moment and also cannot fulfill their idiotic requirements - what is this person supposed to do? Isn’t the fact that the person is stuck in this place already enough to provide him with some kind of legal solution? What the photo in the bathroom and the interrogation of the home owner in person has to do with the legal status of the person who has no other options but to stay in Thailand? An absolute absurd.
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‘Please take the home owner together with you”.
I can only imagine the reaction of the Thai owner of my apartment (whom I hardly know for 10 minutes) when I will ask him to go with me at 7 am to the overcrowded with farangs immigration office - FOR INTERROGATION. Most probably he will ask me to leave his apartment asap to avoid any future troubles with Covid and the Thai police.
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23 minutes ago, greggraham said:
No news today then? Hmmm.
The extension reqs at the Jomtien immigration before Covid:
1. Hotel payment slip
The reqs at the Jomtien immigration during Covid epidemics:
1. Letter from the embassy (in color)
2. Payment slip from hotel booked for one month at least.
3. the letter from the hotel boss/manager guaranteeing your stay for the booked period. Promise of punishment to those who fail to fulfill that guarantee.
4. numerous photos made by farang inside the property he has booked. Photo inside the room, photo outside the hotel etc.
Now, what good news are we naively waiting for when in reality we are presented with the bad news on a daily basis?
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The idea of reopening the places like Pattaya bars and massage saloons any time soon is idiotic in itself. Even if they will be allowed to open again (the will not be) - where will they get their customers from?
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7 minutes ago, jimmjam said:
so this is your second extension on the tourist visa? they are obviously playing hardball with a lot of people, I read in another post they wanted pictures of the residence with the person stood outside it.
in these times they should be making things easier.
what a joke.
They actually should not. Look around - these days governments all over the world restrict, prohibit, close etc. Why should it be any different with the Immigration? They just follow the trend.
By the way, most of the Thais still think that foreigners are the main spreaders of the virus in Thailand. This is from my own experience.- 1
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7 minutes ago, vermin on arrival said:Since I got my emergency extension on the first day at temporary immigration MTT, I don't have to go back until April 23rd for my under consideration stay to be finalized, but it's looking like more and more likely that I won't risk it to go back for that. They need to get their heads out of their butts and give automatic extensions without personal attendance required and have us pay on the way out. I don't think I care about the possibility of blacklist anymore because I don't intend to come back here for a good long time after this incompetent bureaucratic cluster<deleted>.
Today in Rayong they asked me not to come but to call them on the day of expiry. Hopefully this is a sign they start to understand something about the virus.
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I got exactly same stamp today and was told that my documents will be sent to BKK for approval. I was asked to call the Immigration on the date of expiration to get an update.
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35 minutes ago, berrec said:
Re: while foreigners who have entered the Kingdom of Thailand for a temporary stay are unable to return to their domicile or leave the Kingdom.
I thought we were all here as temporary stays in Thailand whether tourists or temporary residents, the reason we jump through hoops with all this useless paperwork every time we need to reapply for a temporary visa stay in the Kingdom each year.
So would not this June visa waiver apply to all of us?
BTW I often wonder why Thai Immigration force such a heavy handed requirement on us for a lot of the useless paperwork we need to supply for visas.
I have often thought they think we are all as corrupt as they are!
My explanation of the Thai immigration tightening the screws in times of Covid is it this a natural bureaucratic reaction of the governments whenever they see any social danger. Globalism, open borders, less paperwork etc - all these things will be hardly hit by this crisis. Since the idea of defending against the virus is to seclude and divide - then it is something natural that we see more and more stringent requirements from the government instead of making things easier and more open to everyone. Definitely bad times for the individual rights.
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Finally got my extension today for just 20 more days. Was made to pay another 1900 baht. Before one week I paid 1900 for one week extension. Overall it took me 4 long visits to Immigration to get something. An awful experience overall. We all need something to change in the nearest future.
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I am afraid this Is just another meaningless declaration. I don’t believe they will ever do any kind of amnesty or even stamp (without any preconditions) everybody stuck currently in Thailand. Last week I have visited the Immigration 3 times. All three times I was presented with the new requirements again and again. It is hard to imagine that this negative attitude will suddenly turn 180 degrees in one day. It all looks like a well defined policy of somebody high above. Hope I am just a pessimist.
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1 minute ago, PST said:
I wasnt referring to anyone in person, i meant in general, not you
Not in person and not in general - I have not heard immigration asking people to leave the country. I personally have a letter from my embassy stating that I am unable to return to my country at the moment. Still I was not able to get the extension.
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1 minute ago, PST said:You'd be suprised, any excuse not to go back, even though they have been told to go by immigration.
I was never told to go by immigration. What are you talking about?
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Also the question is not about fines. Will anybody on overstay be thrown into prison if caught by police or not?
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1 minute ago, UdonRoy said:
Yes, you a right they did mention this. They said they were taken by surprise by how many people visited immigration and they will attempt to provide a better service by opening temporary offices if required. Something like that anyway.
I am doing my best guys, please dont moan at me. This document is confusing (wow, who would of thought it) but we are trying to translate it in the way it is meant.
More offices for more people. This is exactly what we need now. Until they state that there is no need to visit their damned offices anymore - until then I doubt anything will really change. Just more bureaucracy, more requirements, more troubles.
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No fines for overstay. This time - straight to prison. I will not be surprised.
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44 minutes ago, UdonRoy said:
And immigrations stance as of right now is "have letter or you get nothing, conversation over".
I got the embassy letter clearly stating that I am unable to return to my country at the moment. IO barely looked at it. Instead she asked me for confirmation of my residence which must include the hotel manager’s personal guarantee of my stay. Can you imagine somebody who knows me for a couple of minutes taking the risk and giving me an official paper with the guarantee? I would not even try to ask for it.
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The statistics is getting boring. My guess for tomorrow is 110-130 range.
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Don't know about Krabi. Was made to visit Pattaya immigration twice last week. Both times packed with people (hundreds of people). It is indeed very dangerous and I think that overstay is a better option.
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2 minutes ago, TooBigToFit said:
There's no excuse. You can put a bandana over your nose and face. Most of the nation is wearing them now. International experts are starting to change their tune and confirm it does seem to be making a difference in slowing the spread.
That is the problem with the "experts". They change their tune way too often.
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I wash my mask regularly. Was lucky to buy one 3 weeks ago.
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Most of the foreigners who prefer to stay in Thailand for months and years are asocial and introvert creatures by default. Who else will leave his own place to stay with people whose language he/she does not understand? Most of us should be pretty fine staying alone.
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HUA HIN IMMIGRATION - Status?
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They treat those in need for the second extension as overstayers even if their visa has not expired yet. I have heard many times that many of the Thai people lack what is called a compassion. People in trouble are treated like criminals.