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And Israel and the CIA.

You seemed to have ignored the bit about their ability or lack thereof to hide developing nukes which will now be years down the line. Years not months.

If you still think the CNN report is accurate there's something wrong with you. There are two articles in this thread alone that debunks it.

They don't need to admit anything. Current assessments show the damage was huge to all three sites. Intelligence gathering from Mossad is very high level and the CIA and all the other intelligence gathering apparatus the US has at it's disposal is also top shelf so they can't hide anything. Iran is now in a very tricky position. It has no air force and no air defence. It's oil fields can be struck at will which would completely cripple the economy. Trump will not hesitate going back in if needed but this is not what he wants. He wants Iran to play ball. The question is will they?

Early assessment suggests US strikes didn’t destroy Iran’s nuclear sites Well, well, well, what have we here. So the sites weren't obliterated anyway? Wonder who'll take the fall for this. Any comment about this thread you started which was an obvious swipe at Trump based on the now fully debunked report from CNN?

I'll take it that this deflection means you now accept that the GBU-57 was designed primarily for the Fordow facility.

“Along the way, they realized we did not have a weapon that could adequately strike and kill this target,” according to Caine. “So they began a journey to work with industry and other tacticians to develop the GBU-57.” Which part of this do you not understand. It's not the chicken and egg conundrum. First came Fordow and then the weapon to destroy it, that weapon being the GBU-57. As for "Ignores that MOP was built for any deep bunker, not just one site." you are wrong according to what General Caine has stated. I think I'll believe someone at the very top of the U.S. military on this. Sure the MOP can be used on any fortified bunker BUT it's initial development was to destroy the Fordow facility. https://www.twz.com/air/gbu-57-massive-ordnance-penetrator-strikes-on-iran-everything-we-just-learned

Indeed. Although the nuclear sites have been wiped out as have many of the top nuclear scientists, top echelon military and revelutionary guard personnel taken out, the entirety of it's air force destroyed, most of it's missile launchers reduced to wreckage and Israel having total control of Iranian airspace, the Supreme Leader has claimed victory over Israel.

This brings an end to judge shopping. Leftist activist federal district court judges just got smacked by Trump and SCOTUS. Completely insane that a single person in a position of judicial authority with an activist agenda is allowed to rule on anything IMHO let alone be able to bring a halt to implementing national government policy. Whatever happened to the law is blind.

Still haven't heard from the anti-Trump brigade other than negative emojis. Why is this I wonder. Been proven wrong? Have to admit the mission was successful? Have to admit Trump was right and Fordow was indeed taken out and CNN was irresponsible in their initial reporting that you believed? Have to admit this is a massive set back to Iran nuclear weapons programme? I look forward to your thumbs down emoji as this is all you can respond with in response to this comment and this thread.

I see someone agrees with your comment. This is probably the same poster trolling the thumbs down and doesn't realise your comment is one of irony hence the wink emoji.

It would seem, so far, that the only response from those with Trump living rent free in their heads will be the thumbs down emoji. Sadly their conformation bias bubble that Trump was lying about this has been burst. Of course what has been posted on this thread has already been dealt with previously but argued against by those who can't help themselves but to be totally negative about anything Trump does.

This must be fake news.....well according to all those on the previous threads that believed the initial CNN story based on selective pieces of a leaked classified document which was of low confidence. My guess is we're not going to be hearing too much from the psychotic Trump haters on this thread.

He was driving on the wrong side of a major divided road. "Fell asleep behind the wheel"?

Wait! What? Can't wait for those who have Trump living rent free in their heads 24/7 that have been so vocal in previous threads to comment on this one. Here's a tip. Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said the strikes did not "accomplish anything significant to disrupt Iran's nuclear programme...". https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdjxy039ln8o Of course you could also rehash the CNN story which has been well and truly debunked but I'm sure that won't stop you.

AI is wrong. Everything We Just Learned About The GBU-57 Massive Ordnance Penetrator Strikes On Iran https://www.twz.com/air/gbu-57-massive-ordnance-penetrator-strikes-on-iran-everything-we-just-learned

Sure. He's also claimed victory over Israel which is absurd. His comments are purely propaganda for domestic consumption.

For Immediate Release: June 25, 2025 Statement from Director John Ratcliffe about Intelligence on Iran's Nuclear Program “CIA can confirm that a body of credible intelligence indicates Iran’s Nuclear Program has been severely damaged by the recent, targeted strikes. This includes new intelligence from a historically reliable and accurate source/method that several key Iranian nuclear facilities were destroyed and would have to be rebuilt over the course of years. CIA continues to collect additional reliably sourced information to keep appropriate decision-makers and oversight bodies fully informed. When possible, we will also provide updates and information to the American public, given the national importance of this matter and in every attempt to provide transparency.” https://www.cia.gov/stories/story/statement-from-director-john-ratcliffe-about-intelligence-on-irans-nuclear-program/ This is now the consensus opinion. Years not months.

Semantics.

To whoever gave a laughing emoji to this post here's a few more facts for you to ignore. US began secretly designing bombs specifically to target Iran’s Fordow 15 years ago https://nypost.com/2025/06/26/us-news/us-began-designing-bombs-specifically-to-target-irans-fordow-15-years-ago/ Everything We Just Learned About The GBU-57 Massive Ordnance Penetrator Strikes On Iran The strikes on Fordow were 15 years in the making, with that target being the primary driver behind the MOP's development and evolution. “There’s an organization in the U.S. called the Defense Threat Reduction Agency, DTRA. DTRA does a lot of things for our nation, but DTRA is the world’s leading expert on deeply buried, underground targets,” Caine said by way of introduction into his remarks about the MOP. “In 2009, a Defense Threat Reduction Agency officer was brought into a vault at an undisclosed location and briefed on something going on in Iran for security purposes. I’m not going to share his name.” “He was shown some photos and some highly classified intelligence of what looked like a major construction project in the mountains of Iran. He was tasked to study this facility, [and] work with the intelligence community to understand it, and he was soon joined by an additional teammate,” Caine continued. “For more than 15 years, this officer and his teammate lived and breathed this single target, Fordow, a critical element of Iran’s covert nuclear weapons program. He studied the geology. He watched the Iranians dig it out. He watched the construction, the weather, the discard material, the geology, the construction materials, where the materials came from. He looked at the vent shaft, the exhaust shaft, the electrical systems, the environmental control systems, every nook, every crater, every piece of equipment going in and every piece of equipment going out.” “They literally dreamed about this target at night, when they slept,” he added. “They thought about it driving back and forth to work, and they knew from the very first days what this was for. You do not build a multi-layered underground bunker complex with centrifuges and other equipment in a mountain for any peaceful purpose.” “Along the way, they realized we did not have a weapon that could adequately strike and kill this target,” according to Caine. “So they began a journey to work with industry and other tacticians to develop the GBU-57.” https://www.twz.com/air/gbu-57-massive-ordnance-penetrator-strikes-on-iran-everything-we-just-learned

You clearly haven't seen the briefing. 2 people worked on taking out the Fordow facility for 15 years and the GBU-57 was developed out of this. The GBU-57 was developed specifically for Fordow.

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Pure deflection and a total avoidance of anything that doesn't conform to your confirmation bias. Read this although I'm sure you'll respond with a thumbs down and some deranged anti-Trump comment. Highly edited comments (lifted from the transcipt) from Hesgeth but of course I have linked the full video for reference above. I'm guessing you haven't watched one second of it. i want to read some of the assessments that have been provided because whether it's fake news CNN MSNBC or the New York 16:02 Times there's been faing coverage of a preliminary assessment i've had a chance 16:08 to read it all every every outlet has breathlessly reported on a preliminary assessment from DIA i'm looking at it 16:16 right now again it was preliminary a day and a half after the actual strike when it 16:22 admits itself in writing that it requires weeks to accumulate the necessary data to make such an assessment it's preliminary it points 16:29 out that it's not been coordinated with the intelligence community at all uh there's low confidence in this 16:35particular report there's it says in the report there are gaps in the information but here's what other folks are saying the DIA that put that report out says this is a 17:17 preliminary low confidence report and will continue to be refined as additional intelligence becomes 17:23 available how about the Israeli Atomic Energy Commission the devastating US strikes on 17:29Ford destroyed the site's critical infrastructure and rendered the enrichment facility inoperable 17:42 how about this one this is a new one from the UN the United Nations no friend of the United 17:48 States or certainly Israel often here's the head of the UN Atomic Energy Agency 17:54 this morning Raphael Gi us and Israeli strikes caused enormous damage to Iran's 18:01 nuclear sites don't take my word for it how about the IDF's chief of staff i can 18:07 say here that the assessment is that we significantly damage the nuclear program setting it back by years i repeat years john Radcliffe the director of the CIA putting out a statement just last night 18:29 cia can confirm that a body of credible intelligence indicates Iran's nuclear program has been severely damaged by 18:36 recent targeted strikes this includes new intelligence from a historically reliable very different than preliminary 18:44 assessment with low confidence he's saying historically reliable and accurate source and method that several 18:50 key Iranian nuclear facilities were destroyed and would have to be rebuilt 18:57 over the course of years cia continues to collect additional reliably sourced 19:03 information to keep appropriate decision makers fully informed how about DNI 19:09 Telsey Gabbard yesterday she writes and I quote "New intelligence confirms what POTUS has stated numerous 19:16 times iran's nuclear facilities have been destroyed 19:22 institute for Science and International Security President David Albbright overall Israel and US attacks have 19:29effectively destroyed UN Iran's centrifuge enrichment program time The reality I live in which is obviously different to yours tells me that the US has the most powerful and sophisticated armed forces in the world with very, very, very advanced ways to collect intelligence and data. Again this thread, based on a report from CNN which in turn is based on bits of a leaked preliminary assessment is incorrect in it's assumption. You, however, a quite free to, and obviously will continue to, believe everything the MSM tells you.