kwilco

so there have been dozens of accidents within a few metres of each other on this road - your theory is that people suddenly become stupid on this stretch? - maybe there something in the air? how often have you driven this stretch?

that kind of sums you up, doesn't it?

Sorry you're too un-informed to discuss this with.

and all the usual tripe blaming the driver and pretending they know how to drive ....

Blame might feel satisfying, but it doesn't fix anything. Crashes happen because systems fail—roads, policies, vehicles—not just individuals. Focus on blame, and you miss the chance to prevent the next one.

Sounds good to me!

So you are going to take the racist stance too? Most racist can't tell racism from a fact either - "That’s a fact, not a racial slur."

there you go! Why is it a that racists always argue that thinks they say aren't racist?

You are obsessed with the concept of "blame' - with road safety, this was discredited over 50 years ago - you simply don't understand the first thing about road safety, which is why you keep posting nonsense. You need to realise that Modern road safety has moved beyond blaming individuals. Human error is inevitable, so the focus is now on designing systems that prevent serious outcomes. The Safe System approach prioritises safer roads, vehicles, and speeds— recognising that responsibility is shared. Blame doesn’t solve systemic issues or prevent future crashes. It distracts from real, structural improvements.

sorry chap, rather than spouting uniformed comments, you should get yourself up to speed on road safety and the 5 Es.

In simple terms if a speeding car comes round a bend too wide - if the other driver (not at fault) can avoid it due to quick reactions the crash may be avoided, if the other person is slower , old or even drunk, they may not be able to avoid a crash. Regardless of blame if a crash happens, then how serious it is, is then down to the road safety precautions taken by that country - e.g the 5 Es - engineering, enforcement, education, EMERGENCY and evaluation. I'd say that most people posting on this and other threads are not capable of evaluation but don't realise that so they just write nonsense. Calling people "stupid' with regards to road safety is ..well...just stupid. It's subjective and racist.

You maths is questionable but the concept of who contributed to an accident is good.

Fred wiggy doesn't understand the scientific use of the phrase human error

Yes - it was the deeper dive interview - have you watched it? https://www.google.com/search?q="Deeper+dive"+immigration+regulations+60+day+in+Thailand&sca_esv=8aeaa65e2db77436&rlz=1C5CHFA_enGB958GB958&sxsrf=AHTn8zqAzL1VB2vEpJQ-vD90U25ILMmE3w%3A1745230633531&ei=KRsGaMiXINqzhbIPyYf34QE&ved=0ahUKEwiI0Nnf8uiMAxXaWUEAHcnDPRwQ4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq="Deeper+dive"+immigration+regulations+60+day+in+Thailand&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiOCJEZWVwZXIgZGl2ZSIgaW1taWdyYXRpb24gcmVndWxhdGlvbnMgNjAgZGF5IGluIFRoYWlsYW5kMgUQIRigAUjeYFCgHVjGXnAEeACQAQGYAfcBoAHhD6oBBjE5LjIuMbgBA8gBAPgBAZgCGaACqA7CAg4QABiABBiwAxiGAxiKBcICCBAAGLADGO8FwgILEAAYgAQYsAMYogTCAgcQIRigARgKmAMAiAYBkAYHkgcEMjMuMqAHqEWyBwQxOS4yuAedDg&sclient=gws-wiz-serp#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:01531066,vid:EIhRsYAUmEg,st:0

ASEAN NOW (or was it Thaiger?) had a long video interview with a minister when the 60 visa exempt was introduced. I Can't find a copy of this but he stated that 60 visa exempt could make unlimited re-entrie so long as they stayed out for 24 hours.

you seem to be having touble with deciding who is stupid....all Thai people or this Swede.... I think using this kind of racist logic, you will never get an answer.

there WAS an interview with a Government minister about this - he explained how it was all going to work (especially thr 60day visa exempt) - has anyone got the link to that interview?

It shows how difficult it is to get redress in the THai healthcare system.

According to the government spokesman on this, you are meant to stay out for 24 hours.

A characteristic of Thai roads is they 'behave" vey badly in rain. They drain poorly, the surface loses traction and markings get obscured. If a driver makes a mistake - like evrybody does, it is much more likely to be compounded into a serious event. As there is no crsh report available we don't know if the driver was compensating for te poor weather or not.

Sweden is aiming for Vision Zero - a road safety approach aiming to eliminate all traffic fatalities and severe injuries, with the ultimate goal of zero deaths on roads. THe basis for this is the Safe System - the first thing it recognises is you don't play the blame gain as ALL drivers worldwide are equally liable to human error and then road safety is a public health issue - he admits to ignoring everything I've written. - " I am oblivious to your explanation" - What he does understand is these are my ideas, I just reporting the long held truths of world renown road safety experts over the past 50 years or more. PS - think this definition of "oblivious" sums him up - not aware of or concerned about what is happening around one - he's self-destined to be stupid

so you are saying Thai drivers are inherently more stupid than other countries?

“Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions.” ― Thomas Jefferson

in your initial comment you are referring to the Swedish driver and human error, you now seem to have changed your tune - I have already explained how blaming the driver is pointless. So who are you referring to now and why?

Remember polio?- Neither do I - thanks science!