BangkokReady

You can just read it again. We're not talking.

Or not.

Where do you think you are? None of this matters.

Looks like a tree sitting in a square of earth. Maybe there was enough room on the other side of the tree, maybe not, but it had nothing to do with the poster.

Probably to try and claim that the poster blocked the pavement and made the person in the wheelchair go out into the road...

Also, how is it "sex for grades" if he's paying the students for the sex?

"There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know." - Donald Rumsfeld Not sure exactly what he was talking about. Could be Thai women. Could be something else. ????

The way I see it, Westerners generally have internal face, while Thais have external face. We worry about how we feel about a situation or how we think we are being treated, while Thais worry about what other people think about them in a situation and how it makes them look. So we think about what we like in a girl, generally, while Thais are thinking about what other people think of them.

What's a 17 year old doing in M3? "Times, they are a'changing..."

Isn't "it's all a big misunderstanding" pretty common in Thailand? "I just took her there to give her a private lesson."

So it is kind of sex for money now, then later it will become care for money?

Exactly what I thought. You could probably live comfortably on 70k and bank the rest. That kind of pension has to be from a very well paid job for a long time.

What do you anticipate happening when you are 70 and she is 50?

In your opinion. I find it very interesting. Other people seem interested in commenting. It appears to be generating agreement, disagreement and the sharing of experience, knowledge and opinions. You have also made several comments and now reached a conclusion which you felt that you wanted to share. This all has value as far as I am concerned. ????‍♂️

That's one of the things that floored me when I first went to Thailand. Absolutely stunning women sweeping the streets or cleaning hotels, and with pleasant personalities! It just wouldn't happen back home. I understand that I might like dark girls and they aren't considered the most beautiful here, but still. The only women I see back home in these menial roles are very unattractive or old.

Precisely. Unfortunately there are a lot of people who are ignorant and don't want to learn. These people view things ideologically and ignore facts that they don't like. Exactly, yes. I don't agree with everything he says, but he is clearly a smart guy with a pretty large depth of knowledge in his field. The trick is sticking to facts and spotting opinions when they are given. I've watched many of his lectures also. I know he became famous due to his political stance, but I try to view him like any academic figure, they are human too. Very interesting guy though.

So the Thai guy marries a woman of similar age and status to have the official marriage and children with to maintain face, then has a Mia Noi who is younger, hotter, but lower class; while the foreigner doesn't worry about class or need a high status woman to marry, have kids with or maintain face, so just marries the lower class woman half his age and is generally exclusive? Is that it?

I think it depends on the agreement and both parties should discuss it before they enter into a relationship. If the guy says "service me and take care of me until I die and you'll never have to worry about money again, you'll get everything I have", he does have a responsibility. If she's paid for the "work" at the time, then he doesn't have this responsibility.

It was. I'm reluctant to mention these people by name as often some online people react negatively to them because they discuss subjects that are surprisingly controversial. It's not uncommon for people to flip out if you start talking about evolutionary psychology and dating.

I was watching a YouTube video recently and someone mentioned they had a female friend who went to an academic event and found the guy organising/running the event to be incredibly attractive. She later met him again at another event, but this time he was not organising it. The second time she viewed him as being nothing special at all. Weird.

What other options do we have? Accept that we got caught doing something we knew was wrong and face the consequences?

I obviously can't rule out that any young girl I see with an older guy is a Mia Noi. I wonder if women factor this in to decision making. Marry an older guy, then he won't run off with a younger girl (or employ one wasting money that could be hers) when she gets older?

Certainly the female to male attraction works differently to male to female attraction. It's more about some form of provision for women, while for men it's more about fertility. Hence we don't see so many age-gap relationships where the man is much younger than the woman. Just not sure if it works as far as 50 & 70.

But what if you'd had a relationship for 30 years at that point and had a family together? Presumably they might then think differently?

Is that purely for money, or does the way they will be treated come into it also? Although I understand that most Thai girls prefer Thai men, I'm often surprised by this given how some Thai men behave. In other countries with similar conditions, foreign men, even a bit older, are seen as preferable not just due to money but also the way they will treat the girl. I think some Thai women are waking up to this fact, although it often seems to take some personal experience.