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I think they're kind of niche, so some of them form a culture of their own (how they dress, how they act, where they go, what they do). Much like culture around a particular hobby or activity. Although I doubt they would all say they are part of it, like not everyone who watches football acts the same way, or who goes drinking in a town. Heterosexuality is mainstream and dominant, what some might consider "normal", so it just merges with any other culture. You might have heard of there being sort of "gay cities" like Brighton in the UK. I would imagine that there are many gay people who feel they are not part of that (or perhaps any) particular culture. (IMO.)
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Where's the insult? You seem to be seeing things you want to see rather than what is there. Perhaps you are a little too emotionally involved with this issue to be able to be objective. Up to you, but this comes across as you not having an explanation to back up your claim.
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Not in any reply to me. And you haven't quoted the comment to me as requested. (Since you must know where the comment is and what the details are, it's far easier for you to find it than for me to go through five pages of comments.) If you make a claim, it's really on you to explain your reasoning, otherwise it seems like you are being dishonest.
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That isn't hostile or insulting. You were completely wrong, and you continued to say the wrong thing even after I corrected you, so it's fair to speculate that you must be confused or being dishonest. What semantic game? What are you talking about? I said "special treatment" you kept saying it was "special rights", I told you that this is not the case, you decided to ignore the truth and pretend that I meant "special rights". If anyone is playing a "semantic game", it's you, and I'm the one that has called you out on it. Speaking of games, I notice you're still avoiding explaining how Pride month isn't special treatment...
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Not a single insult and zero hostility from me I'm afraid. ???? But I guess you need to make up whatever you can to back out of the dead end you've manged to drive yourself down. ????
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It's a pretty poorly written article overall. One of the paragraphs doesn't even seem to make sense.
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I've made it quite clear what I meant and I didn't mean special rights. Rights are not the same as treatment. You can pretend they mean the same, if you want, but if you're going to pretend words mean something they don't and tell me you know what I meant and I don't, we're not going to have much of a conversation. And? I said special treatment and I meant special treatment, the rest is all in your head (either confused or fabricated). ????♂️
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You already explained how Pride month isn't special treatment? Can you quote it? I didn't see it in a reply to me.
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No, treatment is not the same as a right. You cannot control the meaning of what I say, no matter how much you think it might help your argument. Treatment is how someone treats you. A right is something you have a right to. They are not the same.
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No, but it's so obvious I thought even you would be able to understand it. How so?
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How is Pride Month not special treatment? It's a month long event/series of events just for LGBT people. It's clearly special treatment. They're getting something that not every demographic gets. If you don't realise that that is special treatment, this is far more of a "there it is" moment for you than for me. Your bias is clear for all to see.
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You said I said "special rights". I didn't say that, and told you so. You chose to continue to try to pretend that I said "special rights". I was just pointing out your error. If you want to pretend it didn't happen, up to you, but you can see in the thread what I actually said. It would appear you are fooling yourself and you don't need any help from me.
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I suppose "Pride Month" is a good example.
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No. I'm not claiming that all LGBT are doing this, obviously. I also didn't say special rights, so I'm not sure why you've written that again immediately following me correcting you. You appear to be misinterpreting/misrepresenting what I am saying. Unfortunate.
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I'm not attacking anyone and, as I said, the "special treatment" (I didn't say special rights) is fine for marginalised people. They deserve it if they are oppressed and need to "balance the scales" to make it so they are closer to being equal. However, once their treatment becomes normal and mainstream, the special treatment needs to taper off. If you believe that no one is asking for special treatment, then my stance should not bother you, as I then have nothing to object to.
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And I disagree with your opinion. I think reality is not to your liking, so you are ignoring it. You're welcome to think that, of course, as I am to disagree.
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Hardly. There's nothing wrong with oppressed or marginalised people wanting special treatment to balance the scales, but call it what it is. And I think you're overacting to basic critical thought because you don't like the result.
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Why did you feel the need to point out that they're chubby or from Isaan? Is that funny?
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There's nothing petty about what I have said, nor am I attacking anything or anyone. I'm merely thinking critically. As marginalised and oppressed groups become less so, as they become more mainstream and accepted, in various areas, it's logical that the level of support and special treatment they get will decrease. If there are people trying to keep up the support, finding different reasons to maintain it, there is obviously something else going on there.
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Does that mean that Pride could never do that? Not exclusively. As I said, it could easily go the other way. By way of an example, I'm not sure how long Pride has included "oppression around the world". It seems like a recent addition. This is not unusual. A movement claiming to fight oppression that begins with something local and specific gets traction and success, people become empowered, so they look for more oppression to include so that they still have that "cache", that "power".