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8 minutes ago, 86Tiger said:

My bride insists she we can return any time she likes because her sister said.  In fact she will get absolutely angry if I talk of the actual process and just say "you not Thai person you not understand Thai person can do."

 

But she will not contact the embassy to ask either.  Because she know......

 

 

 

We have to all understand, they do not care the difficulties in meeting the requirements.  Actually, they do not care if we ever go to Thailand.  They have a policy, up to you to check all the boxes.  Can't?  No care, up to you.

I would imagine the Embassy will be inundated with requests for the Repatriation Flights, I have sent countless emails with various enquiries but all they do is send a form in Thai to register for a flight. I would like some answers to my queries before registering 

On 8/10/2020 at 10:19 AM, Nigel Garvie said:

Apologies for posting this on two threads, but this one I discovered was more relevant.

 

"My Thai partner and I have been back in Scotland for 6 weeks, but she has to return to CM for work etc soon. Her KLM return flight was cancelled, and we are also told the only option is a repatriation flight. Endless attempts to contact the Thai embassy in London have failed. The phone menu options just lead you in circles, clearly like so many of them in business this was written by a sadist.

 

If anyone can offer any help or advice about how we should tackle this (Whilst we still retain some sanity!) I/we would be very grateful."

On 8/10/2020 at 10:19 AM, Nigel Garvie said:

Apologies for posting this on two threads, but this one I discovered was more relevant.

 

"My Thai partner and I have been back in Scotland for 6 weeks, but she has to return to CM for work etc soon. Her KLM return flight was cancelled, and we are also told the only option is a repatriation flight. Endless attempts to contact the Thai embassy in London have failed. The phone menu options just lead you in circles, clearly like so many of them in business this was written by a sadist.

 

If anyone can offer any help or advice about how we should tackle this (Whilst we still retain some sanity!) I/we would be very grateful."

In a similar position but closer to London but still 250 miles away, from what I know you are informed 72 hours when you have a seat. We would have to travel to London on public transport arrange all the tests prior to the flight. Do the Embassy not realise not everyone lives in London, I have sent several enquiries via email about this but all they do is send a form to apply for a seat.

My other option is for my partner to overstay her visa, are Passports checked and stamped when departing Heathrow?

7 hours ago, uncleP said:

Any thai national can return, however, I would extend her uk visa unless you don't  want to see her or the child  for a year or so.

I am currently looking into that but there has to be a good reason, my reasons in my email were all the travel 400 kilometres from where we live, 400k time in London to arrange all the details would put them at a greater risk of contracting Cocid19. I also said it was unreasonable to expect a Mother to spend 14 days in a hotel with a 5 year old. What really concerns me if for some reason medical or otherwise we cancelled the flight it is non refundable.

After contacting the U.K. Gov by email re my Thai partners 6 month Tourist Visa was expiring on the 4th of September I received a standard reply that anyone whose Visa is about to expire should be making arrangements to leave the U.K. It did mention she could apply to stay longer but I don’t think she would fall into any of the criteria required.
I did emphasise we had a 5 year old and it would not be ideal for his Mother, I wouldn’t be returning to Thailand to spend 14 days in a hotel but I received the standard answer as above.

I have contacted the Thai Embassy by email asking how I register a Mother and child for a Repatriation flight but they just send back an application form for an individual, I will try and call them to confirm what the requirements are.

My main question is, is there a priority list of who can be accepted for a place on a Repatriation Flight, by all accounts all the places have been taken up for the August flights and no flights have been announced for September as yet ?

The Thai Government have convinced the majority of their people that tourists are ‘dirty’ and the country can live without them.

6 minutes ago, Tanoshi said:

There are many repatriation flights other than what the Embassy website shows, going to and through many European destinations. https://www.skyscanner.net/routes/bkkt/lond/bangkok-to-london.html

I personally know of 3 expats who have booked and departed in the last two months without issue.

You mean departed from Thailand ? You are a regular on here so are aware of the conditions imposed by the Thai Government ?

It’s well known that the only flights allowed in are Repatriation Flights, you have to have a Certificate of Entry issued buy the Thai Embassy along with the Covid19 Test, Fit to Fly Certificate, $100k Health Insurance and booked a reservation at an OSQ Hotel.

5 minutes ago, Tanoshi said:

Eddie, go to this site and enter your preferred dates.

https://www.skyscanner.net/routes/bkkt/lond/bangkok-to-london.html

There are numerous return flights available. Bangkok - London - Bangkok.

 

Your wife will certainly require a 'fit to fly' certificate and will be subject to 14 days quarantine on return.

Contact the Thai Embassy London for latest updates on requirements for Thais.

http://www.thaiembassy.org/london/en/organize/81604-AddressNumbersEmail-Addresses.html

I am not sure it has been mentioned, yes flights are listed on Skyscanner with the proviso the airports are open and allowing flights, currently only repatriation flights allowed. 

12.5 million Tourist in the European School holidays, where are they going to quarantine them ?

9 minutes ago, hottrader77 said:

no tourists allowed and even married husbands with kids in thailand should be allowed into thailand until december 2021 for the safety of thais and farlang here thats the best solution 

As far as I am aware non Thai people with family in Thailand can apply to return with all the conditions required.

49 minutes ago, Tanoshi said:

There are repatriation flights into Thailand from the UK all the time.

Contact the Thai Embassy in London for details and requirements for your wife to re-enter Thailand.

 

She'd need a 'fit to fly' certificate and would be subject to 14 day quarantine at a Bangkok hotel which has to be booked and paid in advance. The requirements on re-entry are made by the Thai government and again nothing to do with the UKVI.

 

Getting on a repatriation flight could be a problem the 3 flights in August are already full up, whilst she doesn’t need to pay for the 14 Day Quarantine she would need to pay for the flight at around £700 with Thai Air from Heathrow.

5 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Your opinion.  

I live in a free country, one is allowed to have an option not like Thailand.

5 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Not so, just spent 8 days all inclusive in Phuket, cost was 35,000 thb and flights from Bangkok were under 6,000 baht for 2 people.  Rented a car while there, and spent another maybe 10,000 on outside things.  A few extras in the resort were 5800 baht, so a total of just under 60,000 but for 8 days at a 5 star resort where prior the trip would have run me around 150,000 baht.  I know still expensive for many but enjoyable as there were maybe 20 others at the resort in total, and Phuket is starving for domestic travelers.  PM if you want.

I wouldn’t say just under $2000/£1500 wasn’t cheap for an 8 day holiday irrespective of the prices pre Covid.

3 minutes ago, johnmell said:

I would like to know some details about 14 days quarantine, arriving in the UK from Thailand. Not wanting to inflict myself on family or friends , it is stated the authorities have places you can go at your own expense. How much, and where are these.

You can stay anywhere, just book into a hotel and give that address, it’s self quarantine not enforced although they can check up on you if they want.

41 minutes ago, Leaver said:

What about the governments of the countries where the tourists come from?  Eg. UK, USA, Europe, Australia.  

 

There are no fights. No travel insurance.  Quarantine upon return etc.  All of which stop them from coming here.  How do you blame the Thai government for that?  

Of course there are no flights the Thai Government have put in place a state of emergency, all the airports are closed apart from arriving repatriation flights and departures for people who wish to leave

Travel Insurance is available for U.K. citizens as Thailand as it’s not on the Foreign Office list of places not to travel to, the Post Ffice to name one will provide Travel Insurance with cover for Covid19

14 minutes ago, Leaver said:

Why do you keep blaming the Thai government?

 

I have stated my opinion where if the Thai government opened up boarders tomorrow, nothing much would change here.  If you disagree, I am happy to hear your argument.  

 

Do you really think if boarders were opened up here tomorrow Pattaya, would go back to normal, or even close to normal?  

I am blaming the decline in Tourism on the Thai government as they don’t appear to know how to manage Covid. They closed everything down now they have no idea how to resume back to some normality. If they had went down the road of trying to manage knowing there would spikes/deaths then Thailand wouldn’t be the situation they are now not knowing what to do apart from trying grow domestic tourism.

i agree Tourist won’t come flooding back, the Government have done the damage and it will takes if it ever does for Tourism to take of in the numbers of the previous years.

20 minutes ago, kingofthemountain said:

It will be not only an appearance

without the international tourism Pattaya

will be economically dead in the next 6 months

(1 year without the main source of income is enough

to kill all the economic net in the entire city)

 

it's like a domino effect, every business closed and not replaced

it's another business closed soon or later because of the lack of customer

 

the first impacted are at the moment the most visible, bars, hotels, restaurants

but all of their suppliers will be also impacted, and i don't even talk about

the haemorrhage of the number of people living in the city (Which means less

customers for all the businesses, services and so on) because there are no jobs

available a lot of them are back in their villages

 

Thai people from the others province don't come in Pattaya for the pleasure 

they come for work and earn money. If they can't work, they don't stay here

where they pay more than in their village for everything (Rent, food and so on)

 

Well put it’s a pity the politicians don’t understand what the outcome will be, with no customers the banks, shopping malls you name it will be closing as no customers. People associate Pattaya with the Bar and Entertainment business but it supports the majority of businesses in Pattaya.

57 minutes ago, Leaver said:

Or, it could end up a ghetto.  

It appears that currently this is what the government are trying to achieve not just Pattaya, they have tried for years to rid Thailand of its reputation of being sleazy but Covid is doing it for them, but at what expense ?

11 minutes ago, Leaver said:

Pattaya is a major tourist area.  Once the international boarders were closed, why not close down hospitality to protect elderly expats?  Not to mention, the bad publicity in the media of hundreds, if not thousands, of westerners dying in Thailand from the virus, should that have happened.  

 

When the boarders were closed and the flights were cancelled, that was the death rattle for businesses here anyway, so why do go full safety?  

Thailand’s strategy to contain Covid was to close the borders, the majority of other countries didn’t rightly or wrongly.

The problem now is Thailand don’t have a strategy to move on and manage Covid, it’s lock people up for 14 days, they will have to rethink their strategy before the country sinks into oblivion. The generals are sitting smugly congratulationing themselves how good they have done being number 1 in the world but at what cost to the economy ?

16 minutes ago, Destiny1990 said:

If the goal is here to maintaining zero new virus carriers then simply do not allow people to enter from abroad.

If they really care to safe lives without hurting their economical situation then Ban nationwide the sales of cigarettes.

Add to that enforce traffic laws, enforce the wearing of crash hats, seat belts, child safety seats in cars, serious penalties for drink-driving, the list is endless.

The government have the population scared to death over Covid why they do a similar exercise with motoring offences ?

11 minutes ago, Destiny1990 said:

If the goal is here to maintaining zero new virus carriers then simply do not allow people to enter from abroad.

If they really care to safe lives without hurting their economical situation then Ban nationwide the sales of cigarettes.

Add to that enforce traffic laws, enforce the wearing of crash hats, seat belts, child safety seats in cars, serious penalties for drink-driving, the list is endless.

The government have the population scared to death over Covid why they do a similar exercise with motoring offences ?

2 minutes ago, Destiny1990 said:

If the goal is here to maintaining zero new virus carriers then simply do not allow people to enter from abroad.

If they really care to safe lives without hurting their economical situation then Ban nationwide the sales of cigarettes.

Add to that enforce the wearing of crash hats, seat belts, child safety seats in cars the list is endless if they really want to save lives.

24 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

How's that even remotely related to the topic I was commenting on, which was the reasonableness of the ASQ hotel package prices for visitors who want to come to stay in Thailand?

 

It would be interesting to know what the hotels are charging the Thai Government for Thai people as opposed to the 35000 plus for foreigners, dual pricing comes to mind ?

48 minutes ago, sambum said:

 

So looking at the latest figures, would you call having 6090 new cases in one day "within manageable limits" and an  acceptable level for your healthcare resources?

 

Would you call a total of more than 5,000,000 (5 million) "within manageable limits" and an acceptable level for your healthcare resources?

 

And just to wander slightly off topic, from the BBC News:-

 

"The postponement of tens of thousands of hospital procedures is putting the lives of people with long-term heart conditions at risk, according to the British Heart Foundation. The coronavirus pandemic has created a backlog which would only get larger as patients waited for care, it said."

 

(The UK has had 308,413 cases, and 46,413 deaths, which is why I say that similarly to the USA, it IS NOT under control, it IS NOT "within manageable limits" and IS NOT "within an acceptable level for their health resources", hence the number of operations/procedures that have been put "on the back burner" as a result.)

 

The reason there has been a postponement in operations/procedures is the U.K. Government panicked commandeering all the NHS Beds and the ones in Private Hospitals for the arrival in their eyes of thousands of people with Covid19. They built the Nightingale Hospitals at considerable cost, the one in London was only open for 4 weeks before being mothballed after only admitting 12 patients.

All countries are trying to manage Covid19 some with more success than others to try and open up their economies again but Thailand has locked the door thrown the key away potentially bankrupting businesses and leaving people with no food.