heybruce

The post was to correct your claim that "the Russia thing was pretty much dismissed as fake". Did you note the words from your own source "It also found that Russia had interfered in the election" The 'It' refers to the Mueller investigation report Report On The Investigation Into Russian Interference In The 2016 Presidential Election.

This thread is about the investigation of Trump's possession of documents that belong to the government. Did you forget? Your repetitive questioning of why the investigation has not yet resulted in an arrest is more of a deflection than my explanation and the material you edited out of my post.

The investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 election was not a hoax. From your source: "In 2019, the Mueller investigation concluded that it could not determine any criminal conspiracy between Moscow and the Trump campaign." "It also found that Russia had interfered in the election "in sweeping and systematic fashion", and outlined 10 times when Mr Trump possibly impeded the investigation."

Right; ignore the crime and look for a conspiracy instead. Can you give one example of law enforcement rushing the investigation of a high-profile individual who did not present a flight risk and was hiding behind an army of lawyers? By the way, his is a very serious crime. "A document describing a foreign government’s military defenses, including its nuclear capabilities, was found by FBI agents who searched former president Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence and private club last month, according to people familiar with the matter, underscoring concerns among U.S. intelligence officials about classified material stashed in the Florida property." "Some of the seized documents detail top-secret U.S. operations so closely guarded that many senior national security officials are kept in the dark about them. Only the president, some members of his Cabinet or a near-Cabinet-level official could authorize other government officials to know details of these special-access programs, according to people familiar with the search, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe sensitive details of an ongoing investigation." https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/09/06/trump-nuclear-documents/

Regardless of what the Trump supporters think, this is very, very bad. "A document describing a foreign government’s military defenses, including its nuclear capabilities, was found by FBI agents who searched former president Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence and private club last month, according to people familiar with the matter, underscoring concerns among U.S. intelligence officials about classified material stashed in the Florida property." "Some of the seized documents detail top-secret U.S. operations so closely guarded that many senior national security officials are kept in the dark about them. Only the president, some members of his Cabinet or a near-Cabinet-level official could authorize other government officials to know details of these special-access programs, according to people familiar with the search, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe sensitive details of an ongoing investigation." https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/09/06/trump-nuclear-documents/

What non-criminal intent could there be?

"Don't bother talking about how they have to do a "proper" investigation, as either he is guilty of taking documents he should not have, or he isn't." Ok, I'll accuse you of not understanding how investigations work.

In view of the fact that the documents don't belong to Trump, he refused to return them and lied about still having them, I don't think that will be a problem.

They could, but if the investigation reveals that nothing improper was done it would make it clear that it is the Republican Party that seeks to politicize the Justice Department, again.

The GOP election strategy will be to maintain that ex-Presidents can steal?

Tell that to thaibeachlovers.

This is not a House investigation. Do you understand that?

An incredible patriot? As evidenced by what? His service record? Nope. His charitable work? No again. His fondling flags with a goofy smirk on his face? Only an idiot would fall for that. Falsely accused without evidence? There was ample evidence for both impeachments. If you want to see an example of accusations without evidence, look at the "born in Kenya" nonsense leveled at Obama before he was elected and continuing through both terms. Who was that fat idiot leading the birther nonsense? Regarding Trump donating his salary, he enriched himself in office with tax breaks, an outrageous increase in the admission fee to Mar-a-Lago, and lobbyist foreign and domestic spending vast sums at his properties, secure in the knowledge that doing so might not benefit them but not doing so would land them on his sh*t list. And now he has been caught stealing, uh, in-possession-of government documents that he refused to return and denied having. Why did he have these documents? No one can say. Why wouldn't he return them? Also no answer. How can anyone defend him now that he's been caught red-handed? That continues to puzzle me.

As Chomper Higgot and many others have explained, that's not how investigations work. Unless you are impenetrably dense, you already know that. Your unimaginative, repetitive "arrest him already" is the only deflection you can come up with.

Yes, you've made it clear. In spite of vast quantities of government documents removed from his property, no evidence that highly classified documents were ever declassified, lying about the evidence of classified on the property, etc., you think the whole thing is just a conspiracy by the Democrats. You have no evidence, but that doesn't keep you from repeatedly stating so. Funny that you can't see conspiracies in Trump's dealings with Putin, or his attempt to get dirt on Biden from Zelensky, or his undermining the integrity of elections before they are held.

Here's three links showing Trump calling into Fox and Friends and the Hannity program. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rx5hA9G_bac https://news.yahoo.com/president-trump-calls-fox-friends-143632800.html https://news.yahoo.com/trump-calls-fox-news-says-040700550.html Do you have any evidence showing his seven hours a day of watching television consisted or actual news programs?

Except Trump didn't watch the news, he watched the pundit programs that praised his every move.

Wow! Were you unaware that Presidents have always been allowed to work from the White House? And that only Trump spent seven hours a day watching television? I may have watched as much as seven hours of television in one day on infrequent occasions, but I've never watched that much on a regular basis. It sounds mind-numbing.

Really? Why is the murder rate higher in Republican controlled states? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_intentional_homicide_rate

So Republicans should be happy to see Trump in prison and no longer making headlines.

Right. The GOP needs to stop infrastructure spending, support for Ukraine, lower prescription drug prices, and all the other horrible things the Democrats are trying to do.

If you are correct then justice will be served by having the investigation come up empty and no arrest made. If you are wrong then Trump will be in deep trouble. I'm betting it will be the latter. Either way, the investigation should continue until it is finished.

Or the FBI and Justice Department were desperately trying to spare the office of the Presidency the embarrassment of having to raid Trump's home and investigate him for serious crimes. Unfortunately Trump is too much of a buffoon to allow such a reasonable outcome.

Really? Do explain what documents that are clearly the property of the US government Trump is allowed to keep. Be sure to explain why he can keep them in spite of repeated requests to return them, and use credible sources.

Why are you and the other Trump supporters so eager to end this investigation ASAP? Afraid of what else might be found?