DrJack54

Rubbish thread. Perhaps responses written in English language from op might facilitate more helpful response.

Fact is this thread is based on nothing factual or accurate information. In fact based on information over a chat. Then posted "good news for Aussies" .

As we say in au...give me a break.

If some members can actually go back to op. Are you missing something. The basic question was "what's next" ....all the other crap is exactly that. So foolish suggestion was to fly to x, outside Thailand. Take train to y then after border crossing fly domestic to z. Geezus are you serious. Best advice would possible be take break for little while from los. Maybe Vietnam. If op has Thai gf, no problem fly her there, visa exempt. Then bit later back to Thailand when its time frame good option. Don't listen to dills stating you have absolute right to basically live here on TV,s. BTW op guessing your back home? 19 pages have you contributed?

35 minutes ago, kmw said:

20k thb reality is nothing, it's less then a weeks work!!! (In relation to Australian median income), especially for peace of mind, myself being on back to back metv always carry 20k thb or equivalent, never been asked to show though, this being immigration at bkk and cnx,

You are sooooo on the money (excuse the pun). Geezus more often than not I have 20k on me and I live in los. These threads are so much rubbish. As I have retirement extension most likely will never be asked for the 20k.

If I was on VE or SETV...I would for sure have 20k on me. 

As many others have posted on endless threads. Its not about the 20k. Its more about how many "tourist visas" etc you have been living in los. Now along come the nutters saying there is no laws.

Ha...that's seriously funny/stupid

No need to report. Also your extension will just expire. Eventually when back in couple of years you apply for new non-o based on retirement and repeat the process you did prior. As for  visits back depending on length of stay your could come visa exempt or setv. When you come back "for good" you could obtain non o-a if that suited you. Obtained in Australia.

2 hours ago, johng said:

Don't know how much AU embassy charges.. but it would almost certainly be cheaper to get a "residence certificate" from your local immigration office.

Johng. Could you advise what I need to take. I have lease of condo. As for tm30 (think that's the one) I sent my tm30 to imm by mail several years ago and haven't change address in that time. Thanks for your advice in post above.

Op, look in your passport. You will find a stamp for your last 12 month "permission of stay"...it will have " permitted UNTIL " with a date. After that date you are on overstay.

I think this information in the original post is not creditable..

I think members are looking for clear factual info from Thai imm and/or embassies to enable for them to plan future alternatives.

Might help to state which imm office your applying for extension as some are quirky.

This whole thread is just crap. The op stated "where move to now"

What load of rubbish. The letter gig has not even panned out yet. As for next extension can use agent. I posted in reply 3. As for future he can use agent (20k). 

All the advice about relocate to Philippines or Vietnam etc is just bs. He can't even afford other methods of extensions in Los and you suggest to this old poor fella change country. Read between lines of op. Where next! Is this a wind up?

You have plenty of time. Put 800k in your Thai bankbook. You won't need 4 hour trip and until all is settled with the ,"letter confusion" your home free.

 

I doubt if he would tell you that its not accurate, especially on a public forum, as that would then be a criminal offence in Australia.

I've heard this line trotted out before. Wouldn't happen in real world. But all this is off topic, so will leave it. Fact is he needs not even bring a pen to embassy, just pp

OP, is your DEC accurate or just to satisfy thai imm. Only asking as I suspect the majority of statements made are not. I'm au also. 

 

Hello,

Does anyone know if it's possible now to get a Multiple Entry Non imm O (marriage) from Phnom Penh?

I saw on the embassy website that it seems possible: http://www.thaiembassy.org/phnompenh/en/services/1435/21866-Non-Immigrant--O-(THAI-SPOUSE).html

 

But also saw a fairly recent thread (2017) where Ubonjoe says it's a no go: 

 

 

 

Anyone know what the current situation is and/or why it was or is considered a no go for a multiple entry?

I will have the 400k to show in a Thai bank if needed and fancy a trip to Phnom Penh over Laos but don't fancy going if they don't issue them.

I would consider HCMC or Bali too so if anyone has any info about those two embassies for getting a multi entry visa (non o - marriage) that would also be useful.

Thanks in advance

I'm sorry I can't advise definitely. However I have heard many times re Phnom Penh that an agent is highly recommended. If your already in pp then that might be best option. 

As for members correcting me. I already stated, I have not personally applied. Just relating second hand info. As for Saigon if your visa exempt, that's a great chill place. Also consulate good. But again I only ever obtained tourist visa there. Ubonjoe will give definitive advice

Hells bells its not about "funds or means of support," that's just a reason to reject as per OP.

Member this thread is about op.

He could of had a zillion baht on person. Irrelevant. The io right or wrong concluded he was not a "genuine tourist" 

Yes don't jump in and ask for a meaning or definition. He didn't get in. Full stop. Very lucky to get back home country. Stop complain. Accept or FO

 

It is true that I am a "rule of law" kind of guy - I don't break them.  Few would have gone to the trouble I did to stay here with my Thai wife legally (not paying an agent - a cheaper option overall - when I encountered corrupt IOs). 

 

Fortunately there are only a few "problem" points of entry that don't follow the laws.  All the other points of entry are fine.  Chang Mai airport may be OK, given no bad reports from there - but probably not a good idea to fly-in on a fresh rejected-entry, due to not being able to just walk back to the other country if there is a problem.  Per reports here, visitors with the OP's situation have entered by land without issue many times, so best to do what is tried and tested.

 

I have entered from Penang a few times: Penang -> Train -> Enter Thailand -> Yat Yai flight to Bangkok.  It is much less stressful than flying into Mogadishu Bangkok airports, with who knows what arbitrary and lawless surprises waiting, based on the literal-whims of the folks running things there. 

 

But you are correct about the OP not being welcome in Malaysia, due to having an Israeli passport, so will need to enter from Vientiane or another option.  At least he has embassy personnel who care about his well-being - unlike most of us, who would get a list of lawyers and maybe a courtesy phone-call, at best. 

You serious or delusional. You LIVE in Thai in some way out village. Do your in outs that you have learnt over the years. Your advice ( in most cases including the op) means ZIP. 

Address cases such as the op rather than numerous posts about "oh TI and io are so unfair. Geezus reminds me of Australian cricket teams complaining about Indian pitches. As we say in au. Go hard or go home. Stop complain about Thai " non rules" for under 50. It very boring. In every topic you post is same chip on shoulder.

 

And 20 000 Baht in cash  would have been sufficient to prove that ?

Geezus don't members get it. We all talk about suspicion of working. No. 

The reason under 50 want live here ongoing is life style or fell in love or whatever. Here is a message Thai are not looking for that. Maybe in future the retired xpats in same basket. The "chip on shoulder guy" will be along soon. Banging on about the money xpats contribute. Rubbish. Cost benefit analysis...get short term tourists into Thai. India ramping up in future years and of course continued Chinese. Thai don't really want all the failures from him country (most are) coming to live in los on visas that were not designed for that. 

 

Each separate visa and extension have conditions to meet, consistent with their stay-length, as determined by the MFA (visa) and Immigration (extension).

I have come to conclusion you just bang on thread after thread about " there are no written laws". In my extreme post of stating staying in los basically continuously is OK. 

So would someone be admitted with my silly plan in my post. Answer NO. Then you give such convoluted ways of entering los. The op is is flying from distant country and your plan is fly to country x in Asia, get bus to this or that border crossing. I lost you somewhere between kl (which he can't enter and the train trip to thai. Then domestic flight. Ha....is that a joke

 

Because it isn't a one year visit, if it were the tourist would have to do for example 90 day reports.

Oh I get it! So stay for 89 days and have weekend drinking amber in Saigon every 3 months, meaning 357 days in los in a year for a visit. Good plan. Good luck

 

Thanx for clarification, I am going for my first Retirement Visa on this next trip back 'home'.......in any event, I never have less than 2 mill in my accounts, and a steady monthly deposit in another back acct.  We shall see, I am not married to a Thai, just like living in Thailand.

Where is "back home" You might like to obtain a non o-a. That's a nice visa as includes multiple entries. Great if you want travel around Asia etc. Sounds like your moving here. Best thing I ever done. Cheers

 

Actually 12.2 makes it quite clear that this is about the finances following the entry to Thailand. So for this paragraph it doesn't matter what you did the last few years, and i'm quite sure that your personal interpretation of it is wrong.

You assume that the 20k THB requirement is for section 12.9. How do you know this? It is very well possible that these 20k are also the required amount to satifsy 12.2

 

Did anybody ever see the original notice regarding the 20k THB requirement? I would be interested in the original wording.

Sadly i was unable to find it on Google, i found a section on the russion embassy website which says that this was a notification of the ministry of interior from 8th may 2000, but i was unable to find the original.

 

How about you start from the FACT that a tourist can't stay more than 90 days, so a tourist can't stay long term? (With some exceptions)

Why should a tourist visa not be the appropriate visa for somebody who makes several 90 day trips per year in Thailand?

Several 3 month "visits" in a year?Or perhaps you mean 4 three month visits per year.

Umm why not call it one, 1 year visit. 

 

That is the way to do it, show you have varied incomes and always at least  800K when needed for an extension........I think they prefer to see activity.

Umm, think we are on different page. The 800k deposit in Thai bank for min 3 months, has nothing to do with activity. They want to see activity on day of extension. Deposit  ie 100baht. Think your referring to "income method". They don't need to see " varied incomes"