JBChiangRai

I took a friend’s car to my car painter today and out of interest. I asked him how much to repaint the entire BYD Seal in a new colour and he quoted ฿20,000, which is 12,000 less than I paid to wrap it. This guy’s work is superb, I’ve been using him for years and he’s every as good as the main dealerships, often better.

I assume you registered your lease at the land Office. All leases 3 years and over have to be registered and taxes paid on them or they are invalid.

The BYD Seal is one of the cars in the running for Car Of The Year 2024.

Four of the seven cars in the running for Car Of The Year 2024 are EV’s. http://m5.emails.telegraph.co.uk/nl/jsp/m.jsp?c=%40lh593%2FBEKfZ3FMDII2JRAZa0g3JqROZDI%2BaO%2BhA11qkNbddUMnLSDhZ8IfzyF7mC0hH99VA0vWQLBXuFjIRzJw%3D%3D&WT.mc_id=e_DM276039&WT.tsrc=email&etype=Edi_Ele_New&utmsource=email&utm_medium=Edi_Ele_New20240210&utm_campaign=DM276039

We have had a couple of MG's both electric. The MG EP+ is basically an electric station wagon version of the MG5. The MG5 petrol is a good car, but has terrible depreciation, all their petrol/hybrid cars do, their electric cars, not so much. No warranty issues on either of them, both excellent cars.

Maybe useful if you have advanced Alzheimers?

You do have to look at this from the Thai perspective, if someone makes an accessory then it must be good!

My daughter borrowed my car this morning and so I checked, the map on the app is where your phone is, I don't think there is a way to tell where your car actually is.

Posting negatives (no trans etc) says more about you than about what you are looking for. Always look at what you are posting from a 3rd person view and if it doesn’t look good, don’t post it. Do you think you may have offended the trans community this time in the same way you offended humanity in your homophobia before? (Rhetorical question).

BYD launched in Australia during 2023 and the official launch date of the BYD Seal was 1/1/2024, it will be interesting to see how those numbers change this year. I expect BYD to overtake Tesla.

Rubbish. I know you’re from Liverpool, but you really should try to master the English language.

I said "If you are talking about anyone charging more than the permitted 1.25% per month" The key conjunction being "IF"

From what I have read, you mustn't discharge the battery below a certain point when it's cold as you need to run the heat pump to warm the battery before you can drive it or charge it. Fail to do that and you better wait till the weather gets warmer as you're going nowhere.

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I finally got around to loading some apps on my Seal. Netflix now works, Youtube, Yutube music, google maps, GBox (google play emulator) Aurora App store and another (App Manager I think), these latter 2 allow you to install new direct from them over the internet and don't need any special password. On another matter, the SD Card is fine with the BYD camera although sometime it doesn't start, it might be a faulty SD Card, also if you load music on it in the Music folder, it doesn't behave like the USB slot, it's not reliable and won't play a lot of the music. Is it possible to see where the car is on the BYD App? With my daughter's MG4 I can see exactly where the car is and I find it reassuring. I don't call her if it's Payap University and I can see she will arrive in Chiang Rai in about 45 minutes.

Sorry but a survey a year ago is vastly out of date in this ever changing EV market. If you're going to look at numbers, it's more appropriate to take a number much higher than 9.8%, I agree the December number maybe should not be counted but in which case it's more appropriate to take an average of Nov 2023 and Jan 2024 to determine year end market size, which comes out over 18% Regarding my daughter's MG EP+, I rather hope the buyer doesn't complete as I'm sitting on a huge deposit and have the phone numbers of other buyers waiting in the wings. I suggested another way to look at market size, it's currently 21% and by the end of the year likely to be 25-30%. We will have to agree to disagree on 2nd hand EV's. I think the latest models (BYD, ORA, Deepak) are going to be in great demand.

It's not really valid to look at the total sales last year and say 9.8% market share, because the year finished at a 25% market share in December and 2024 opened with a 21% market share in January. We have to recognise that demand here is accelerating. I don't see any reason why the secondhand market should not follow the same model, the difference is there will be a lot more buyers than sellers.

If you are talking about anyone charging more than the permitted 1.25% per month, you need to involve the police, if they say it's a civil matter then remind them it's not, it is a criminal matter and ask for their name and tell them you will take it higher, that will probably change their attitude. There is an authority in Bangkok which will investigate the police, I used to have details but I have long lost them. |If it's a policeman who is the loan shark, go straight to the Bangkok authority I mentioned.

I have the BYD Seal Performance, before that an MG4 (X) and before that another EV. I love the BYD Seal, but which car would I want to hoon around a country road in? The MG4 every time, it has a much firmer, planted suspension. The Seal is faster, more comfortable, quieter, more toys but it's handling whilst good is nowhere near as confidence inspiring as the MG4, the Seal is softly sprung. I would prefer the Seal every time on a long run where my passengers expect me to drive with their comfort in mind (I have great difficulty and lack the self-control to do that).

I think Thailand is going to outperform the West on secondhand EV prices. The reason for that is it is not a small market here, it's currently over 20% of new sales and growing. Because of the explosive growth there is a dearth of EV vehicles in existence 1 or 2 years old, let alone those available for resale. It's very much a seller's market. I did advertise my daughter's MG EP+ for 699k first because I wasn't ready to sell it as my new car hadn't been delivered and I would have used Grab uf I got an exceptional price. My new car came last week in December and I then advertised it for what I thought was a fair market value. I got the price wrong, I should have asked 625k or 650k as the first viewer paid a deposit for full asking and I've been fielding enquiries since. If he fails to complete at the end of this month, I will readvertise at 625k. Yes new ones are being advertised by traders at 699k, what they don't tell you in their advert is you have to take their exorbitant finance or pay an extra 7% VAT, all traders must include the VAT in their final sales price for the revenue department. You have to know your cars with One2Car, I saw a nearly new MG EP at a very low price, it wasn't the EP+ model and they haven't been made for 2 years, I suspect it's an ex-taxi with it's speedo wound back and reregistered on a non-taxi plate. Most of the early sales were as taxi's.

When people opened gas stations, it was a completely new business for them. Adding DC Chargers to gas stations is expanding their existing business in a way that is both expensive and won't give them the same ROI. It has everything to do with what you said about mandating.

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The difference here is the number of service areas. Highway 1 for example has a service area every 5-15km and they have fitted a 2 port charger or maybe 2. In the UK, not only are the roads busier by a factor of 10 or more, the service areas are further apart. Each service area probably needs 100 charging stations, I read last week at least one service area on the M1 had one charging station with 2 ports.

I don't think there is any evidence that EV's in Thailand depreciate any faster than ICEV's. I have sold 2 EV's, Macahoom has sold 1 and we got excellent prices. A quick look at One2Car shows no disparity at all. By the time a car is 3 or 4 years ood, it matters not what month it was registered, what matters is the year. America and Europe are not as advanced in EV adoption as Thailand is, it will come, but I think you can look at Thailand and Norway as being a few years ahead. The UK have made one terrible mistake which is making it difficult for drivers to switch to EV. They haven't mandated that motorway service areas must have DC Chargers. They have left it to the privately run motorway service area companies to make their own decisions and their attitude is we will do it when there are enough EV's, meanwhile people going long distance are waiting for the Motorway Service Areas to fit chargers before they buy EV's. Thailand on the other hand, has service areas every few kilometers and an abundant (currently) supply of DC Chargers for long journeys. Those who don't have EV's often think all the petrol stations need to add DC Chargers when the reality is we will need less than 5% of those in towns to have DC chargers, but 100% on major arterial roads. They look at their local petrol stations, see no DC Chargers and think erroneously QED Thailand doesn't have the charging infrastructure. When we have all gone EV, more than 90% of all the petrol stations in urban areas will close.

The year matters, not the age in months, the comparison is invalid. Glass’s Guide, CAP Black Book all value cars by year. You can’t compare markets in different parts of the world. We are seeing EV sales by legacy automakers are stalling whilst Chinese EV’s are increasing every month. It’s probably reasonable to assume that the same thing is going to happen in the secondhand market, more so because who wants a one year old EV that has a comparable cost with a new Chinese EV.