JBChiangRai

I just renewed my EV insurance, up to 5 named drivers, I added 4 including my 22 & 22 year old daughters, age currently irrelevant.

There is only one vegetable here, it's a Celery.

Shock! Horror! Transam can be sensible!

That my friend is what we call a "cop out". They would go the driving licence route first (IMHO).

So do you see them mandating only fast EV's or BMW M series cars too?

Nonsense. I can see businesses with fleets doing this voluntarily, but governments mandating it, it's not going to happen, it doesn't matter how many children are killed. A similar approach to that with motorbikes might be possible. Age restricted on driving licences (say up to 150 hp under 25 years old). A normal driving licence and a Supercar driving licence, possibly with mandated extra training needed for high performance cars is another possibility. Fitting limiters only to EV's will never happen, it's like saying only the rich can drive fast cars (they buy Porsche's etc). Impossible, political suicide. You haven't thought it through Vinny. Regarding Porsche Innodrive, my BYD has the same thing, Intelligent Cruise Control, it will slow you down at changing speed limits and restore to high speed afterwards. It's here today, but it's nothing to do with restricting power.

I disagree. To do that you would have to limit all cars with high performance. What about all the BMW M variants, Mercedes AMG variants, Ferrari's, Lamborghini's, Porsche's. What you are saying is impossible.

To avoid the risk of a no earth problem, you're better buying this one as you know it's fine.

Just plug it into a normal socket, no need to do anything else. Start off at 16 amps and if you have a problem (breaker trips or you feel something is getting too hot) knock it down to 13 amps. I have one of these with a 10 metre cable we take with us if we're going to a motel or someone else's house.

I think driving a fast car can hone the skills of a driver. It's all about experience. When I got my first fast car I remember thinking it was insane and how could anybody use all that power safely. A few thousand miles later, I had a completely different opinion. A powerful car can be a lot safer, maneuvers like overtaking can be completed much more safely.

Here is a 3,500 baht solution. I doubt you'll ever have a scenario where this doesn't work for you, about 8 hours overnight will take you from 20% to 80% and it's 60% faster than the supplied granny charger. 8 amp, 10 amp, 13 amp and 16 amp selectable.

I'm driven by my head not my heart when it comes to cars. The Atto 3 is more my taste than the M6 but I would sacrifice practicality over looks every time. On the charger you can pay 36-47,000 baht and write it all off when you leave, or you can 10-15,000 baht and only write off 3-8,000 baht when you leave and your next installation will be cheap too. Both give you the same charging speed. I am from Yorkshire, we are like the Scottish but with the generosity wrung out of them.

Why am I not surprised Transman posted this. Mark Mills is just spreading FUD and he contradicts himself continuously. He say's EV's cost the manufacturer a $50k loss per car and that's after a federal credit. But Tesla's sell well and they don't lose money. He says EV;s are complicated, they're not, there's a a dozen modules only in an EV, the newer BYD's have 2 major components a 12 in 1 drive system and a battery. His main issue is implied but unspoken, and that is that China can do it economically and America can't.

All BYD's are LFP Battery Chemistry

I got after-market wheels for my BYD in B-Quik, I would ask them, they can probably look them up.

I think the fast one might be 1.2M until 10/12, you can just pay a 10,000 baht booking fee now I think.

Probably book it now before December 10th, and I would go for the fast one, but then I'm still a teenager at heart.

I missed that, then the Atto Station Wagon is the right choice, I think it's called M6 or B6.

If I were Yodarapper my head would be spinning. For me, the solution is obvious. Typical maximum journey is 185km to Rayong. There are more than a dozen fast chargers on the way to Rayong and lots in Rayong. He doesn't need an extended range vehicle, the standard Atto 3 is fine, but by all means go for the extended if you prefer. It will get you to Rayong with as much again spare. Top up on the way back at any of the chargers on the way back, I would top up at the first one for about 15-20 minutes to avoid range anxiety. Next the issue of the home charger. I would be budgeting 15,000 baht maximum (I may be as cheap as 9,500 baht) for a plug in 7Kw portable wall box, asking my landlord if I could fit a 32 amp socket where I park the car to allow EV charging, it improves the rentability of the property, he would be mad to say no. Perhaps it costs 3-7,000 for that, that is the only wasted expenditure when you move to a new property, you unplug and take the charger with you. You should not consider an ICE car, you've already driven the Atto and know how superior it is to drive over an ICE. I think it would help if instead of bombarding Yodarapper with possibilities and information, we advised what we would do, bearing in mind a wall box is not included.

So it looks like BYD is already number 2 in Thailand. A year ago they were tipped to pass Honda. Toyota better watch out, they have sleep-walked into this coming crisis through poor leadership. Fast forward 10 years, EV adoption is widespread, there are no perceived psychological barriers to entry and there is price parity or EV's are actually cheaper to buy than ICE (if you can still buy them). What do you think will happen to the second-hand market, you can buy an EV or you can buy an ICE with its complicated setup and running cost 4 times as much as an EV? We are fast reaching the point where you would be a mug to buy an ICE (personally, I think we were there a year ago).

I think we are looking at 3+ years down the line for these new blade batteries to appear in the models being sold in Thailand. We haven’t seen the Seal platform 3.0 Evo yet. in terms of affecting resale value, that is going to taper, depending on the age of the vehicle. Anybody who bought the old technology a year before the new technology is likely to be hit, but anybody with a car three years old, I doubt it’ll make any difference whatsoever. That means anybody buying a car now is unlikely to be affected at all.

And buy a celery

You may be right, I hope you aren't, in my opinion Hybrids are a con unless they are plug-in.

His post hasn't aged well. Even 2in 022 when he posted there were lots of charging stations.

Yes I read it, I knew you would enjoy it which is why I posted it.