Chomper Higgot

Opinions differ. Tory statements on withdrawing from humans rights law, proposals to place Government above the law and scapegoating immigrants are all a matter of public record.

Did I say immigrant numbers should be unlimited? I simply pointed out the fact that all immigration is a issue, not simply ‘illegal immigration’. That the Tories have failed on all fronts doesn’t help.

An observation of factual Tory posturing is not a redefinition of Conservatism. .

Odd then that the Government should have set about increasing the income threshold, a many other means, in order to ‘slash’ immigration to the UK. Most of these Government moves aim to reduce legal immigration: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/home-secretary-unveils-plan-to-cut-net-migration

Can you point to where I have given a definition of Conservatism. Listing some of the characteristics of this failing Conservative Government that is itself engaging in internal strife over what the party stands for is not by any means or sense ‘redefining Conservatism’. But please go ahead provide a quote from any of my posts that substantiates your claim.

Well yes, extreme right wingers do scapegoat immigrants.

So ‘the boats’ are the ‘second biggest concern’ of ‘Tory Voters’. Elections are won by winning swing voters, and as you yourself point out, the boats are only the second biggest concern within the Tory base. I expect it has dawned on even those normally reliable Tory voters that the Government has failed miserably on immigration. Oh did I make any comment on legal/illegal immigration?

You are making the not uncommon mistake of grouping all concerns on a subject into the same pot. One voter might simply be concerned about the number of immigrants. Another might be concerned about where the immigrants are coming from. Another, might be concerned about the costs related to immigration. Another might be concerned about immigrants dying in the Channel. The list goes on. It’s very likely they all agree that the Government has failed to manage immigration.

And it also does something around ‘sample size’, ‘confidence’. Your focus on ‘randomness’ rather than ‘representative sample’ further illustrates your ignorance on the subject. But here’s the kicker. Repeated surveys since BREXIT by multiple organizations consistently indicate public opinion moving against BREXIT.

Tories screaming about ditching human rights laws, placing Government above the law and scapegoating immigrants not ‘Conservative’ enough for you?

How about providing some solid evidence of BREXIT being a success? Or are those ‘warm sunlit uplands’ still over the horizon?

Do you have data that demonstrates people who hang up are probably more likely to be one side or the other? Or did you simply dream that up to illustrate your ignorance of the mathematics of sampling?

The Tories have already swung hard right, it’s not working out for them. By all means go further right, it’s a losing formula, go for it.

We know nothing of the sort. We do however know there are repeated reports from people who have been close to Trump that he stinks of leaking diapers. So of course the rightwing accuse Biden of that which they know relates to Trump.

Another repost from early 2020

How many people have you listened to lately?

Still winning? Outside of the alternative reality that is MAGA he’s getting reemed.

Says fan of authoritarianism who goes out of his way to avoid hearing opinions counter to his own.

To be fair, the internal Tory opposition vote is itself split between those in the moderate center of the party who know the Rwanda Bill breaks international law and won’t work and the rightwing extremists who don’t think it goes far enough. The Tories are at war with themselves as the Government stares down the barrel of annihilation at the coming General Election. Here’s a curious circumstance: The Tories know they are going to lose, they know replacing Sunak now isn’t going to win them the election. The fight is therefore over who is going to run the Tory Party in opposition. A large Tory defeat plays into the hands of the rightwing extremists making it very much easier for them to take control of the party after the election while blaming moderates for the party’s losses. Meanwhile, as Tories squabble, the nation flounders. Same same for 14 straight years.

Refer link above.

Here’s what concerns the public in order of importance. We know the extreme rightwing blame immigrants, true to type: ‘It’s always somebody else’s fault’. 14 years of failing government is a far more rational explanation but it’s not one fed out by the rightwing media. https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/wellbeing/bulletins/publicopinionsandsocialtrendsgreatbritain/15to26november2023#:~:text=Main points,-Ahead of the&text=When asked about the important,as the top three issues.

Here’s the best bit. The Tories and Sunak in particular have chosen of their own volition to promise to deliver the Rwanda policy in the face of consistent advice that it won’t work and will brake both UK law and international laws the IK is bound by. It’s a mess of their own making. They could have focussed on something the general public are concerned about, the NHS, the housing crisis, the economy, education ….. nah, they chose the Albatross and strung it around their own necks.

I see my long used observation of ‘rightwing accusation/confession’ did gain purchase then.

I predicted the Biden win in 2020, I’m predicting a Biden win 2024, I predicted indictments against Trump and I’m predicting convictions against Trump. What did I get wrong?

Well if you don’t vote don’t whinge.