Chomper Higgot

Statements in posts supported by verifiable links are verifiable.

Once again you misrepresent the causes of death. People live for decades with underlying health conditions. Obesity and chronic diseases in a population kill at a known and predictable rate. Then COVID came along and started killing people, the cause of death is what’s written on the death certificates and recorded in the compile me death rate data. But there is the other side of your fixation with other people’s health and your clear belief that those suffering chronic lifestyle diseases are to blame for their health challenges and ergo their susceptibility to this virus. Given you clearly don’t regard yourself one of the people vulnerable to the virus your argument is that of ‘I’m all right jack’. Governments are enacting public health measures for the whole of their populations, and very rightly not singling out some as less deserving than others.

It’s a meaningless number unless presented in the context to give it meaning.

You clearly have no idea how scientific research works.

I’ve said many times, I’m very grateful to have spent the period of the pandemic in Thailand.

You mean countries that also don’t have universal access to healthcare and almost certainly no reliable data collection.

You seem to have missed the cultural attitudes Thai people exhibit towards the vulnerable people they know, their parents and grand parents.

Also from the report you have linked: “Further analysis by the agency has concluded that unvaccinated adults are as much as eight times more likely to be admitted to hospital than those who have been vaccinated and that booster doses are 88% effective at preventing hospital admission” Let’s go Darwin.

You need to acquaint yourself with the difference between legal and illegal discrimination. Start with reading up on ‘Protected Class/Group’. Though I believe you probably know how doing so will reveal the holes in your argument above.

Right, so everyone knew hospital over crowding was a problem. But some (thankfully a minority) still chose and choose to refuse a safe vaccination that is demonstrated to dramatically reduce the probability of they themselves adding to the problem of hospital over crowding. Gotchaya on that.

You seem to have misunderstood the ability of others to remember that the anti-vaccine/anti-public health measures messaging was coming out of a particular set of politicians long before any accusation of ‘dropping the ball’ was made.

Except anti-vaxxers, anti-maskers, anti-public health measures people are going about, mingling with others. Some go a bit further: https://vancouverisland.ctvnews.ca/anti-vaccine-protester-spat-at-nanaimo-nurse-rcmp-say-1.5571428

Or psychology

I’m not qualified to address what might be behind someone who has been vaccinated adopting and posting ant-vac messaging,

I really don’t care about your thoughts on your rights to make dumb decisions. What bothers me is your efforts to undermine the rational of science/data based decisions. Gotake your chances with Darwin by all means, but quit encouraging others to join you.

Erm Bht 176.7. Don’t spend it all at once.

‘Could have’ Bht 400,000 between 2,264 families = Average payout Bht 176.7

Getting back to the topic under discussion. Yes very many people are tired of all this. They can also see very clearly that a small vociferous minority of free loaders have not done their part to bring this pandemic under control. Macron has very rightly identified his priority to help those who are doing their bit in the fight against the virus and not pandering to free loaders. Same as it ever was.

What pro-vaccination politicians said about the vaccine never prevented or encouraged anyone from getting vaccinated (and thereby dramatically reducing their chance of serious Illness, hospitalization and death by CIVID). It’s a dead cat argument aimed at distracting from what anti-vaxxers did say that did discourage many (to the cost of their health and life) from getting these safe and effective vaccines.

I’m only surprised anyone believing Q-duff reveals themselves in public. On the upside, at least it’s obvious who to avoid.

And yet the science and the data says otherwise.

OK, let’s not argue and agree the statements were ‘politically beneficial’. Now explain how those statements prevented or discouraged anyone from taking the vaccines which have been proved to be safe and effective in saving countless numbers of people from serious illness, hospitalization and death, together with the immense costs in human misery and impacts on health services ? Focus hard before answering.

FACT. The vaccine dramatically reduced serious illnesses, hospitalizations and deaths. So what ‘most thought they were buying’ turned out to be true. But do get your point. What might have been said in error about the vaccines is all you’ve got. Or rather, one side of what was said about the vaccines is all you’ve got. You don’t address the other sides outright lies and Q-duff misinformation.

Get over it already. Tge vaccines have saved countless people from serious illness, hospitalization and death, together with the associated costs in human misery and impact on health service. The vaccines have done this effectively and safely (ad nauseam if you like). Why not focus on the misinformation that has cost lives?!

Who gives a flying care? None of those comments caused anyone to not take the vaccine (unlike the flip side of the vaccine misinformation that was and continues to be spread). The vaccines are safe and effective, they have saved countless numbers of people from serious illness, hospitalization and death, together with the associated costs in human misery and impact on health services.