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That didn’t take long: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jan/13/veterans-ask-queen-to-strip-prince-andrew-of-honorary-military-titles

Endless booster shots for every is a figment of your own imagination.

No it’s not. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109281/covid-19-daily-deaths-compared-to-all-causes/

Neither, but if you think the ‘court of public opinion’ doesn’t exist and doesn’t matter, watch what happens to Prince Andrew. He’s already losing his positions as head of charities and foundations. He’s in a world of hurt right now and almost all of it relates to the impact of this case on his public image and the image of an institution into which he was born.

He’s not being tried in a criminal court (well not yet anyway). He is however on trial in the court of public opinion and his efforts to avoid a civil hearing, failed as they have, are not helping the commonly held verdict against him.

“So the number of "from Covid" deaths would be about 32,500 in the UK and the "withCovid" would be 150,000 if that is correct. “ The UK’s ONS, who’s job it is to collect and present the data have stated the actual death count exceeds 175,000. Perhaps you’d like to explain the disparity between your statement I have placed in quotes above and the ONS data. The UK’s procedures for recording cause of death are available and you might want to make reference to them when making your reply.

You get your views on COVID from Zero Hedge. Righty-o! (Pun intended). https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_Hedge

Well I agree, accusations of trolling are not acceptable without good evidence to back them up. I do still caution everyone on sharing personal information and especially anything to do with people you care about. I’ve too often seen such information abused.

Selectively misrepresenting facts again. Vaccinated individuals are dramatically less likely to ‘Contract COVID’ then wind up in hospital or dead with the diseases COVID causes, than are unvaccinated individuals. But of course you don’t do anti-vaccines misinformation, you just consistently selectively miss out the benefits of the vaccines.

Perhaps, and it’s just a thought, you should consider the merits of leaving personal information out of discussion. I can assure you doing so will not prevent some attempting to introduce their assumptions of that which is personal to you, but their attempts will be baseless. If however you introduce a personal detail it is only to be expected that others will discuss that which you yourself have introduced.

Perhaps not a surprise, It seems the UK Government couldn’t tell the truth on this: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/11/uk-covid-death-toll-ons

This lie ‘Deaths within 28 days/road accidents etc counted as COVID deaths’ has, as I have demonstrated with links to reliable sources, been wide spread in the UK and the US. And has been debunked on both sides of the Atlantic. Now we find it being spread, and swallowed, Germany too. What is it about utter and transparent nonsense that people swallow it so easily and then stick to it when shown that it’s nonsense?

I’ll ignore all your emotional nonsense accusation in the above and go to this: You’ve stated ‘[obesity] is embedded in the culture’. Your starter for ten, explain what this ‘Culture of obesity is’?

So is the CDC, but simply mentioning the CDC (or RKI for that matter) in a post doesn’t not provide verification of anything else in the post. Refer my link above to the UK Office of National Statistics to get an idea of how to provide verification of a claim. Provide evidence to back up your claim! Before you do, have a read of this: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/verify/covid-deaths-car-crash-comorbidities-coronavirus-death-total-counts-john-hopkins-study/65-e3842ed2-f753-4a15-8b97-c2ae75c2b2ce The self same garbage ‘car accidents counted as COVID deaths’ is spread in the US and debunked in the US. But you think it’s true in Germany. Present your proof.

I haven’t commented on the link between obesity and COVID outcomes. My response you you is in respect of all the other nonsense in your post. You’ve packed it with enough nonsense to warrant disregarding the whole, hence my suggestion you consider starting a thread on your misunderstandings of the issues around obesity. But, full marks for trying to distract from the Government’s multiple failings in the fight against COVID.

*Deleted post edited out* Demonstrate your claim to be true with reference to the official procedures for identification and recording cause of death and I will remove my confused emoji. Before you start, the exact same claim has been made by purveyors of false information regarding the recording of deaths in the UK. A claim that has been debunked: https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/whetherthosewhohavediedfromacaraccidentwithcovid19willbecountedinonsstatistics

I phrased my question in response to the content of your post.

Perhaps you’d like to start a thread on your misconceptions surrounding obesity.

And this is the whole point. Clog the conversation with data then misrepresent what the data is actually saying.

This! Anti-vaxxers frequently demonstrate two traits.. 1. Their inability to understand short reports or the simplest of statistical data. 2. Their adherence to cookie cutter copies of pre-canned misinformation they consume elsewhere then blindly repeat. Brace yourself for more of the same.

It’s not “about openness and transparency from a very large multinational pharmaceutical company”. Pfizer we’re not respondents in this case.

Let’s go Darwin.

From the article you have linked: “There are 123 people with COVID-19 in hospital, including 12 people in ICU and one requiring a ventilator. Of those hospitalised, 73 people are fully vaccinated, 12 are either unvaccinated or partially vaccinated, and 38 have an unknown vaccination status.” First observation, the vaccination status of 38 of the 123 cases is unknown. So before you start calculating percentages to make your argument over 30% of the data set is uncertain. Moreover, there is zero data on the vaccination status of the 8 people who are reported dead. But such obvious gaps in the data didn’t stop you reaching for your calculator, so you gave us: “60% of hospitalized ignoramuses are fully vaccinated.“ Firstly let’s correct your math, 73 fully vaccinated out of 123 total cases is 59,3% (rounding up to help your argument is a tell). Let’s assume you don’t understand uncertainty created by missing data and go with your inflated 60%. From the article you linked and are basing your argument on: “Currently 92.7% of eligible South Australians aged 12+ have received their first dose of the vaccine, 88.5% have received their second dose “ If the vaccines were having no positive impact the percentage of fully vaccinated patients in hospital would be 88.7%. Forgive me if pointing out the gaping holes in your understanding of the information in the article you choose to post causes you any embarrassment, it’s not personal.

Infection and outcome of infection are not the same thing. It’s not vaccinated people who are filling up ICU units. Despite their lower absolute umbers, it’s the unvaccinated that are winding up seriously I’ll in hospital: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/23/covid-patients-in-icu-now-almost-all-unvaccinated-says-oxford-scientist ‘Let’s go Darwin’.

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