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I’d call that the kind of simplistic reductionism that is a foundation of racism. That aside, why do you ask?

You dodged it.

You should open a thread on the topic. This isn’t it.

But you judge others on the basis of their non-Buddhist religion beliefs. Did the significance of that escape you?!

I don’t agree with that particular list. Again, for the forth time: Do you agree there are statements and ‘go to arguments’ that are characteristic of racists? Or is it your contention that nobody can conclude another person is a racist on the basis of the statements and arguments they put forward?

Oh, so now you want to apply the list you yourself have been arguing against. Try this for size (third time of asking):

Nonsense. Black immigrants arriving in the UK were overwhelmingly coming from the Caribbean, famously well mannered, polite, Methodist and hardworking. You are using pejorative stereotyping to defend the overt racism of the 1950s. You could save yourself the embarrassment by simply stating ‘yes that was an example of racism at that time.

Please, let’s have less of this feigned ignorance. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_far-right_groups_(1945–present)

The guy who had charge of the National Guard certainly saw it coming, and did nothing about it.

It appears she’s ducking out of this week’s PMQs.

That’s a simplistic view. Very many men have sufficient personal wealth not to work. One of the outcomes of the pandemic was an increase in people considering alternative lifestyles, some folk decided they didn’t ever want to work in an office again, some folk decided they didn’t want to work full time, others decided they just didn’t want to work any more. But it’s not a new phenomenon, here’s evidence it was happening back in 2016 https://www.npr.org/2016/09/06/492849471/an-economic-mystery-why-are-men-leaving-the-workforce I doubt this is a surprise to many expats here in Thailand.

Be patient, he will be.

I wonder if they are still on reserve service. If do recall them and order them home.

*Deleted post edited out* There’s plenty of other things happening. But that doesn’t prevent Trump being held to account. And it certainly doesn’t distract you from defending Trump’s corruption.

It was reported at the time.

Oh I do hope so.

Evil.

Yes you are correct, many, I would say very many have changed their behaviour, some have gone as far as to change their thinking too. But very many have not, very many people still carry with them the racism of the society they grew up in. We frequently see examples in posts on this forum. Very few British people are openly racist. (I’ve underlined that so as to ensure my views are not misrepresented). However, far too many give scant attention to how racism occurs and goes un challenged, or is used as a tool in political and public policy campaigns. On top of that there still remain overtly racist political groups that have significant public support.

Please address this question:

Making sweeping generalizations about a nationality - Is certainly, stereotyping that group, so it fits right into the mindset of racism. The portrayal of non-white races as jolly smiling people, is absolutely a historical racist trope. All peoples have ‘smiles’, defining a racial group as ‘smiling’ is reductionist and reductionism is definitely a tool of racism.

Good for you, but you have no logical argument to preclude the racism that existed during the lives of people engaged in this discussion. It is a prime example of the background racism that influenced the minds of very many people living, and importantly voting, in the UK today. Racist tropes have been used in UK political campaigns within the last decade, they played particularly well to the demographic that grew up with overt racism in British society, of the kind you feel it unnecessary to discus.

OK let’s accept at face value your opinion is that particular list is nonsense. Do you agree there are statements and ‘go to arguments’ that are characteristic of racists? Or is it your contention that nobody can conclude another person is a racist on the basis of the statements and arguments they put forward?

No. I’m talking about people who where born and grew up in the period after the late forties, through to the late 80s, as I clearly explained. I’m pleased to see you accept racist attitudes were the norm back then. Now all you have to do is grasp the idea that people who grew up at a time when racist attitudes where the norm in the society they were growing up with will have to some varying degree taken those racist attitudes on board. We frequently see examples in n discussions in this forum. “The terrible dark old days of the National Front and British Movement and Pakistani bashing are long gone and its new generation now ” Yes I absolutely agree, terrible dark days but I do not agree ‘long gone’, they are in the living memory of members of this forum and we see far too many examples on this forum that those racist attitudes have left their mark. Yes I agree, the younger generalizations were brought up in a multi cultural society and not exposed to the racism of the ‘recent past’. Have you noticed, the people who often express racist views on this forum also frequently express derogatory views on the young. There has been a generational change, but the older generation are still around, some still expressing racist views, a minority expressing vile racist views.

Well yes, the idiot Budget has been ditched.

I look forward to discussing Labour when Labour are the topic of the thread.