Chomper Higgot

The next hurdle is the upcoming bi-elections, and yes, then the Parliamentary Privileges report. Under the rules, as they stand, Johnson cannot be challenged for another twelve months, but the rules can be changed. The Tories now have a leader who does not have the support of a significant number of his own MPs and dwindling support amongst the public. The economy is getting worse, inflation is getting worse, poverty is getting worse, Brexit is getting worse and Johnson is bereft of any policies to fix any of it. Nobody does an internecine knife fight like the Tories. The clock is ticking.

My side punt was he’d survive and in the near future call an early election. I’m sticking with it.

Johnson has survived the leadership vote 59% to 41%. Now the fun starts.

Once again you are posting your ‘stuck in the past’ off topic nonsense. Refer top of the thread for the topic of discussion.

How’s it bad for the Labour Party? This is bad news for the Tories whichever way the vote goes.

Excellent news, well done these veterans.

Let’s see who it is possessed of a myopic view.

The ‘letter threshold’ has been passed, the vote will happen this evening.

The Guardian article provides quotations from members of Johnson’s Government and leading Tories that indicate a their belief a leadership challenge is inevitable. How do you evade that?

Did you miss the subject of this discussion? You’ll find it at the top of the thread.

But will the Tories replace him? I have my doubts. My side bet is Johnson scrapes through a leadership challenge then within a couple of months calls an early General Election. The economy is getting worse, the Tory Brexit mess is biting harder, inflation is getting worse, poverty and the income gap is getting worse, the prospects of Tories winning the next General Election are getting worse. What a right Tory mess this is!

The title of this news could equally be: ”Putin tells the West what he fears most”.

The problem is, who are they going to replace him with? Worse still, Johnson winning the vote as he continues to lose the support of the public. A right Tory mess.

You’ve not heard of VAT, Duty, or Energy Taxes then? Regardless of when housing, education, health services and welfare were brought into place they were all brought about by Liberal/Labour Governments and all have been continually underfunded by Tory Governments. Your claim that the Tories look after the poor with these programs is a misrepresentation of historical and current facts.

The poor pay higher taxes wrt income than any group in society. Welfare benefits brought into being by Labour and Liberal Governments. NHS brought into being by a Labour Government. Public Housing (Addison Act) by a Liberal Government.

Sorry, but it is not ‘an opinion’ that Johnson is a ‘serial liar’, it’s a matter of public record he is.

There’s not many having gammon for lunch these days, most can’t afford it.

It’s also a result of the ‘Democracy is dead/all Politicians are liars/all Politicians are in it for themselves’ narrative. It’s a narrative that discourages participation and voting. Politicians, Politics and indeed democracy has its faults but it’s the only way ordinary people have any chance of getting any form of representation. Participation and voting are the means to be heard, hence the efforts to discourage participation and voting.

I had lunch last week in Nottingham with a former British Thai resident who used to say exactly the same thing. He packed his bags and came back to the UK when he needed the NHS.

There are two bi-elections coming up that will play a part in the decision the Tories are trying not to make.

Disenfranchising the poor and marginalized has become a matter of mirth, what a spiteful and bitter place the rightwing had become.

That’s an exaggeration, although admittedly only a slight exaggeration.

Because voter identification requirements disproportionately disenfranchise the poor and marginalized members of society. Refer paragraph “Voter identification in polling stations‘ in the attached link: https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/who-we-are-and-what-we-do/our-views-and-research/our-research/public-attitudes

I was in a Tesco Supermarket in the UK this morning, a number of people were bitterly blaming Joe Biden for the UK’s inflation. I heard similar in the Netherlands a couple of weeks ago.

Johnson has fallen foul of the old political adage ‘you can fool some of the people some of the time…’. His lies have caught him up and his contempt for the public is on full view. It’s not the ‘boos’ arriving at the Queen’s Jubilee that matter, it’s the constant disgruntled complaints that can be heard in the shops, on busses, in the pub, anywhere where people have a chance to vent their thoughts. The public know what a lie is, they know what a liar is and they know truth matters. Of course Johnson was booed, I’d be surprised if he was not.