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Is having a person blacklisted something a disgruntled, wealthy and very vindictive former employer would be able to do to someone just to hurt them (even if they had no legal basis for doing so)?

Wait...TIT, I think I just answered my own question...

OK, that makes sense, thanks.

My new employer said they will give me a hand at the immigration office in that province and get things straightened out on Monday.

Fingers crossed it will go smoothly. After it's sorted, I will focus on step 2: getting some money back out of the @#*@*@&!

Just got an email from the Sportsman, time has changed to 7pm.

...and also roasts will have finished by then, but normal menu will be available.

Sorry about that!

If you have proof that you were employed (salary slips, tax paid etc) in conjunction with the wp obtained by them this in its self constitutes a contract even if it is not in writing. Hot foot it to the labour department.

Thanks, yes I have over 2 years of payslips/tax records and copies of both WPs I have had with them. I'll go on Monday!

I think a contract is one of the required documents to get a WP. It was probably in Thai, and they had you sign it along with a bunch of other paperwork.

Even in some aboveboard places, the contract that they send to the Labor Office is not the same as they give you. It's just easier for some places to send in a proven generic contract.

Strangely the boss always made a deal out of not giving us contracts. He claimed it was all based on 'trust'. Ironically enough. Maybe there was some generic Thai one for the sake of WP purposes. The argument here is that he is taking my salary and want to take more to cover the cost of my WP - even if there is some generic contract, I am sure that would not be one of its conditions.

Your Visa Situation -- More importantly is your status. First of all, your work permit is not related to the visa. The WP's cancellation has no bearing on your visa. Your employer cancels the work permit with the Labor office and then notifies Labor and Immigration that your employment has been terminated.

Regardless of whether these notifications take place, your legal basis to remain in the Kingdom ended with the end of your employment. You must either obtain a 7-day extension from Immigration or leave the country immediately to obtain a different visa. If you can secure new employment within seven days you likely can avoid the out-of-country trip, but otherwise you'll need to either get a Tourist Visa or return on a visa exemption stamp (15 days by land/30 days by air.)

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Thanks for the advice there.

I find WP/visa issues really confusing (don't think I am alone)

It seems that the two above statements are kind of contradictory...maybe I am missing something obvious.

If the WP's cancellation has no bearing on my visa, how come my one year visa will suddenly end with the termination of my employment? It's OK, kind of a rhetorical question there...don't get it, but I can accept it for what it is!

Thanks again!

Its unlikely you will use them for references so I wouldnt pay them anything.

He's keeping my months salary, plus some other money he owes me, so paying cannot be helped.

Unfortunately, he was not willing to part with my passport, so I had to literally snatch it away from the sneaky wretch.

He did lose a bit of umph when I mentioned the legalities of what he was doing!

Obviously he's not going to pay me this month, so I might write him a letter stating that I am reporting it all to the labor department.

I have just never signed a contract with that company, though I have always had a work permit from them.

Really? That's interesting...thanks for the info.

Thanks, those were similar to figures I have heard from others too.

I don't have a contact (EDIT: should read CONTRACT) with anybody at all, so going to the dept. of labour about not being paid is not really an option.

I think that they (the agency) are planning to make the cancellation arrangements on Monday, from what I gather.

My next employer has already said that making the new WP won't be a problem and I wont have to leave Thailand or anything, apparently they have confirmed this with the local immigration office, but who knows what that means in reality!?

Thanks again Mario2008

ok, this is a really long story, so i will chop it down to bare minimum (yes, there IS a lot more to it, obviously)

I quit my job, rather suddenly, but with good reason and gave as much notice as was humanly possible.

my passport with new non im B was in the possession of a 3rd party agency who had just arranged my WP.

when i went to get it, they had just couriered it to my office.

as i arrived back at the office, my boss had it in his hand, and was about to lock it in his drawer.

after a long and heated exchange, i basically snatched my passport off him, as he was trying to get me to pay him 66,800 Baht for the work permit and visa extension. (when i quit, i told him he could dock me the money for the WP, i didnt think it could possibly come to anything like that amount!)

the whole scene was very ugly, shocking and really quite unbelievable, but i'll spare the reader the details.

he was very adamant about not returning the passport until i paid this sum. even though most of the sum would have been covered by my last months salary (and another sum of money he owes me), which of course, he is refusing to pay me.

(i have no legal contract with this 'man')

he showed me the receipts (3) that amounted to 66800. he is Japanese, and close with the Japanese agency (who behaved very suspiciously when my GF and i went to get my passport) and i reckon it is not beyond the realms of possibility that the receipts were fixed, but i don't have a copy of them unfortunately.

I have never done anything wrong to this person in over 2 years of employment (in fact i have gone above and beyond the call of duty for him), but i feel he treated me like a criminal. the whole way he dealt with the situation was very dishonest, unprofessional and childish. and he was shaking with fear the whole way though. had he dealt with it another way, there may have been no problem.

i got there just at the right second, as he was clearly waiting until the last day of the month when i would have been expecting a paycheck, to spring this on me.

anyway,...

is the sum off 66800 baht legit? it was for: WP, visa extension (1 year), and something else that stupidly, i am not sure of (possibly WP cancellation?)

before it kicked off, he said my WP would be canceled on june 1st. is it right that i have then have 1 week (I'm from UK, heard that its different for different nationalities?) to get my stuff in order (leave Thailand and come back on a new visa, OR get my new employer to fix my new WP on my old visa within a week).

If he doesnt cancel the WP, will i have problems? (i guess he will, as he would be breaking the law i guess)

also am i allowed to name and shame the guy/his company/the service they provide (really is scum of the earth, not necessarily for this, but for a world of other reasons i wont go into now) ;o)

sorry for the long and garbled post, congrats if u made it through!

thanks for the replies

i will check out Johns place, sounds good!

i will probably rent a place in the 'town centre' at first, or within a 15 minute motorbike ride to it. yet to find a house though...

cheers.

Hi,

Looks like I will be moving down to Pranburi with the GF in the next week or so (can't wait to finally get out of BKK!)

Have had a look around the town and countryside around there, seems like a place we will be comfortable (can always zip to Hua Hin for a cheeseburger!)

I saw a couple of westerners there when I was checking out the Tesco Lotus, and was just wondering if anyone's living down there are if there any spots to meet up for the odd beer and chin wag? I can do healthy too, into weight/martial arts training and fitness, so if anyone down there is into any of that, then that would be good too.

Cheers.

Apologies if the OP was unclear...

UFC 114 is Rampage Vs Rashad, showing this coming Sunday May 30th, 4pm, at the Sportsman pub in Bangkok.

Unless the owner of the pub says otherwise, in which case, I'm sure he or I will post it here.

If all goes well, he said it could be a regular thing.

Are you serious!? I found that place really disappointing! (did go there a while back - might have improved, but seriously doubt it)

Have you tried the chippy on soi 23 (near bottom of cowboy)? Some people say its gone downhill, but was OK last time I went...

Or my personal favourite (and one of BKK's best kept secrets, but i'm leaving the smoke soon so nevermind), the little Thai style (but farang food) restaurant on soi 11 opposite cheap charlies, prices raised a bit recently, but still best fish and chips I have found in in BKK. Also have tacos, great steaks, and kebabs if i remember correctly.

Anyone know any others?

If you taking orders then

-Some food and pretty girls would be great

Hah, that was your post number 555, and a rib-tickler it was too!

'Roast' is food where I come from!

I suppose it could refer to other things, is that what you want the pretty girls for? Speaking of which, it's a bar on Sukhumvit - there is a fair chance that there will be some girls there! Pretty though...ummm, maybe that's where the pints come into the equation! We'll see...

Fight fans,

The owner of The Sportsman pub on Sukhumvit / Suk.22 has kindly offered to show UFC 114 on a ridiculously huge screen and in high quality this Sunday from 4pm.

Roasts, pints, and ground 'n' pound!

What more do you want?

Fight fans,

The owner of The Sportsman pub on Sukhumvit / Suk.22 has kindly offered to show UFC 114 on a ridiculously huge screen and in high quality this Sunday from 4pm.

Roasts, pints, and ground 'n' pound!

What more do you want?

My mate sent me an email the other day saying he had just fostered a ginger kid. Got 'im in the head with all 6 cans!

Ooops, didn't see the joke/puzzle forum...sorry

Hi all,

I'm in a tricky situation with my cats. They are about 9 months old (rescued from the street at about 2 months old) and are sisters.

I was planning to wait until 12 months to have them spayed, and thought this would be fine as they are always confined to the apartment (ample room for the 2).

It seems one night, one of the cats got out, and returned the next morning pregnant (this was about 8 weeks ago now, so she is ready to pop any day soon). OK, far from ideal, but I can deal with it, I suppose.

Suddenly, her sister looks pregnant too! I have no idea how this could have happened as she has never 'escaped' to my knowledge, and the transformation seems very sudden, whereas with her sister it was slow and obvious. She suddenly looks bigger and her nipples have become more pronounced.

Wishful thinking that it's some kind of sympathetic pregnancy symptom syndrome she is showing for her sister? Or did some tom break in and have his wicked way?

To make it all worse, we are (also quite suddenly) due to move out of the city and into the country over the next 4-5 weeks.

I have read up on the net as much as I can about caring for newborns and moving with cats, just wondered if anyone has any advice, as I am beginning to feel at a loss as what is best to do.

I don't really have any specific questions, but if anyone has any suggestions as to how I could best approach this situation I would appreciate it.

Thanks in advance.

Thinking of moving down to P.K.K. province, probably the amphoe mueang area, anyone know if there are any ex-pats down there? Decent restaurants/supermarkets/etc?

I know Hua Hin and Cha Am pretty well, but haven't been further south yet.

Considering a job offer there, and more than ready to leave BKK!

Thanks.

hi,

i am thinking about maybe moving to Kanchanaburi and though i have visited many times, i have never looked around for longer term accomodation.

was just wondering if anyone can throw a ballpark figure for renting a small house (2-3 bedroom and garden, a/c would be good, in or near tha muang area).

thanks

great, thanks for the replies!

apologies, looks like its gonna be an afternoon session as my mate cannot wait....depending on DL time, looks like we'll start about 3.30ish

Anyone interested, we are planning to watch Daley smash Koscheck's face (UFC113) at the 24 bar from about 7pm tonight (Sunday).

Bar is located in the alley between sukhumvit soi 7 and 5, it's a Thai restaurant/karaoke joint halfway down the alley on the left if coming from soi 7.

About the cheapest beer in Suk, 80B for a big Singha, 70B for big Leo!

This is all dependent on the download going to plan, if anything changes will post updates.

C u there fight fans.

hi,

anybody know a shop that repairs acoustic guitars?

i have already taken it out once to find that the shops i went to don't do repairs, so if anyone knows some place that can do repairs for sure, that would be great.

(it's an Ibanez electro-acoustic and the input for the cable is broken and needs to be replaced)

TIA

Yet another awesome fight card, so is anywhere gonna show it?

Not sure if fight night still takes place at Temples soi 11, so has anyone else got any plans to show it?

If not we will probably have a copy of it on Sunday so just need a venue with a big TV and cheap beer!