HashBrownHarry

3 minutes ago, Peter Denis said:

You were not fined because of 'late reporting'.  It actually does not matter WHEN you file your TM30, as long as it is done BEFORE you visit your IO.

You were fined because there was NO current TM30 filed from the place where you were staying at the moment you visited IO.  If it had been done even the day before, you would not have been fined.

I beleive this is incorrect, you're suppose to register within 48 hours upon arrival at abode.

1 minute ago, Peter Denis said:

IO is not interested in your TM30 history.  If your IO enforces TM30 compliance (not all IOs do) they will only be interested when at the moment you visit them for a service that needs your address (e.g. an extension of stay) that a current TM30 has been filed from the place where you are staying.

So the notion of 'late reporting' is void.  Either the last - i.e. a current - TM30 has been filed from the place where you are currently staying or this has not been done.

When your IO enforces TM30 compliance, YOU might be fined (800 to 1.600 THB) for not being in compliance.  Also the 'owner' of the place where you are staying (hotel, guesthouse, girlfriend's house, rental condo) might be fined.  That fine amounts to 2.000 THB per night/foreigner not reported within 24 hours of arriving at the place of stay (but I have never seen any reports of that actually being enforced for not reporting a foreigner staying at the premisses).

I've been fined twice, 1600baht eat time.

As mentioned i never normally bother but occasion #1 i bought a bike and needed a cert of residence which could only be obtained after TM30 complete and occasion #2 to get my ducks in a row for the current situation.

So the notion of 'late reporting' is not void as you suggest.

Just now, Peter Denis said:

This is not correct.  There is no need to visit IO to register on the IO TM30 website.

ok, then i stand corrected.

2 minutes ago, Peter Denis said:

There is no problem doing it two month late.

The ONLY time TM-30 compliance might be checked, is when you visit your local IO for a service that requires your address (e.g. an extension of stay).  And in case IO checks it (some IOs don't enforce TM30 compliance) they are ONLY interested whether a current TM30 has been filed from the place where you are presently staying (they are not interested in your TM30 history).

>> I have PM-ed you a step-by-step instruction on how to register on the IO TM30 website and file your TM30s on-line.

To access your PM-messages just click the letter-icon next to your profile when logged-in to the Forum.

there will be a fine for late reporting ( for the house owner of where you're staying ).

18 minutes ago, ChomDo said:

I was going to post a new topic about the TM30 but then I found this thread so maybe someone can answer my question here. I didn't want to change the topic from the OP's question but it seems like the issue is already been sorted out thoroughly.

 

So I was wondering if there's any point doing the TM 30 about two months late? I've never done a TM30 but now that I see it might be asked at the immigration, I would like to try and do it online. I arrived back to Thailand with SETV in the beginning of February and had a flight back to Europe in May. Now that flight are cancelled and the immigration is playing games with us, I feel like having all the possible papers just in case. But is there any benefit of having a TM30 done two months after you arrived or would that just be even worse? My normal +30 days extension is due in a few days and then the extra "covid extensions" would start in May (the one that needs all the paperwork).

 

I've never been asked to show a TM30 in any situation nor had I even heard of it since a while ago but this would be just in case of the "+30 day covid extension" being enforced in May (of course as we know from the news, all of that nonsense should be over any day now, but I just don't believe it before it's official). 

I normally never bother with TM30 but as like you i though best to have all ducks in a row during this current situation.

Before you can do it online you must go to immigration and apply for user name and password, you'll get that in about 5-7 days, then subsequently not need to visit immigration to register address.

49 minutes ago, jossthaifarang said:

Surely deeds to a property that you own with your name on it would suffice? Or the blue book with your name in it, then they just need to verify your name with passport/drivers license.

So people are expected to travel about with property deeds?

Doubt that's gonna happen.

4 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Even if they did, or we did, I am sure everyone would be more than helpful to the individual/s in there time of need and do what they could to help instead of panic unnecessarily.  So many negative people in the world, life must not be too happy for some I guess.  Enjoy what you have, make the best of it, no one has chosen what we have been dealt.  

You're sure in this time of pandemic and fear everyone would be willing to help, i don't share your optimism.

Just now, CharlieH said:

Depends if/what parts are needed usuallly.

Well that's another thing i was not impressed about.

When i drove to the garage a girl came out and tool photo's of the boot that was damaged, never opened / closed it to see if the locks etc still latched, never got under the rear bumpers etc to check for other damage, just a few photo's and then said she'd call when ready to repair.

Don't know why not a proper inspection by mechanic / fitter and i'm pretty sure in 6 weeks time ( or whenever ) it'll be a case of not having parts and  'order from BKK mister'

Bit of a shambles really IMO.

2 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

That 6 weeks is the norm around here from what I see.

Oh wow!

There's a couple of other comments on this thread that suggest way shorter periods than that?

Backed into a tree about 2 weeks ago, agent up next day for all the formalities.

Day after went to the garage and told it'd be about 6 weeks before they could repair, so i'd say NO, not all that impressed tbh.

1 minute ago, digbeth said:

apparently they are checking Thai workers for ID and letter from businesses within Pattaya for reason for them to be there, like manning the shops...

 

residents should have ID showing Banglamung address... but the problem even for Thais is that not many Thais even with those with houses in the area actually move their address 'here' and how many of us actually have the Pink ID, I doubt they'll accept passport as prove that you're a 'local' 

A driving license will have you address.

Also your TM30 receipt will have your address.

3 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

I would like to think they would contact the proper folks to have come take a look at you, and of course ensure you isolate yourself in your room.  Kind of important for the building folks to know if there is a case, even though they should not know who it is, in order to take additional steps as necessary.  But then what do I know.

Would they not figure out who it was when " the proper folks " come to have a look?

Just now, Susco said:

I quoted my result on the dimensions the poster provide. It is impossible to calculate the volume of a well. because nobody knows the underground stream

correct

3 minutes ago, Susco said:

only good for a tank, pointless for a well

39 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

Doesnt really matter what it says, what matters ultimately is who you encounter and how he interprets it, you can argue later from the cell or ATM 'til your hearts content.

 

you willing to pay the fine?

1 hour ago, OneeyedJohn said:

I have a well that is more than 2 metres diameter and 13 metres deep and is half full, so how many litres of water do I have.

Depends on the water table, well could be 150m diameter and 13 meters deep and still 1/2 full ( or empty ).

1 hour ago, tropo said:

All of what you offered in your previous posts was completely irrelevant.

 

Yes, let's hope it rains soon.

 

 

Irrelevant to you coz you don't understand.

On 1/17/2020 at 8:25 PM, Ireland32 said:

I give my ex , 4,000 b she wanted 3,000 , I help a lil bit with School stuff, it’s private, she lives in Moobaan Nowhere

4,000 a month is almost nothing, do you have a break down of what that's spent on?

14 minutes ago, morrobay said:

On the other hand Pattaya could be reset/improved. There has been oversupply, over development. So in future with better exchange rate, less traffic, less low end tourists/secondhand cigarette smoke. And so on. In a year it very well may be better here than before. You don't like Thai food 7 days/week ? You think supermarkets are going to disappear??. I dare say your going off the rails with your negativity Bud. 

Totally agree.

Look how much Patong improved after a tragic event.

Just now, Peter Denis said:

When filing your TM-30, one of the inputs you need to provide is the unique number of your TM-6 entry/departure card.

Since it is a unique number obviously there is no drop-down menu for that entry.

Ah understand now, my bad!

Apologies.

22 minutes ago, Peter Denis said:

@Surelynotreferred to the fact that there is no drop-down menu for the required TM-6 entry/departure card number, as that is a unique number which you have to look up on the TM-6 departure part of the card which you received when entering Thailand

Look at thread topic, can't see TM6 mentioned, can you?

8 hours ago, tropo said:

 I'm testing my flow rate with a 2 litre jug and a stop watch to get a rough estimate of how much water comes out of a faucet in an hour, to get a rough estimate of how much 500L of water use is. 3 x 5 minute showers would cost about 250L at full pressure. That's accurate enough. My numbers are not correct or incorrect. They are intended to be a rough estimate. Let's say +/- 5%.

 

The best test would be to fill my 120 litre drum and see how that corresponds to the water meter reading. That will tell me if my water meter is calibrated correctly.

 

I never considered my water use to be high until some people here made some comments about it, so it got me thinking. I'm at the end of a 3 year lease, so it's a bit late now.

 

As it has hardly rained for months, I'm more concerned about having water rather than how much I use.

your last sentence is all i agree on.

Let's hope it rains soon.

2 minutes ago, tropo said:

LOL. It's close enough. What would be the point of more accuracy? Why would it matter if I have a shower with a flow rate of 977L per hour, or 950, or 850. I don't normally use it at full pressure anyway and definitely not when I run it through the heater.

 

I have a 120L drum I could test against the meter, but I'm not that motivated. We have nice clean water at good pressure, so we're happy.

What would be the point - the point would be that it would prove the numbers you have posted are incorrect.

So long as you're happy tho, that's the main thing.

Hope the water does n't run out for you there.

Stay safe!