Walker88

Interesting to see the delusional maga types come out, tossing out epithets about "Marxist/Stalinist/Commie/etc.", with no understanding of those ideologies nor the reality of successful Dem-led Capitalism. In case you missed it---which you quite obviously have---GDP growth under Biden-Harris is tops since the late 1990s under Clinton. US GDP growth since 2020, when Biden took over after the felon left a Recession and 6.8% UE, is three times the average of the other G7 nations. The US' poorest State---Mississippi---has average income higher than the average income of folks in the UK, Canada and Germany. More Americans are employed today that at any time in the history of the country. The first chip plants in decades are being built in the US. Infrastructure rebuilding isn't a week that never comes, but a reality. 800,000 new manufacturing jobs have arisen under Biden's term. Even the trade deficit with China has improved. The last guy was a disaster: lowest average GDP change of any Presidential Administration since Herbert Hoover...the first President since Hoover to leave office with fewer Americans employed than when he took over. What he added to the National Debt ($8,400,000,000,000) exceeds GDP change over his term ,meaning even his mediocre performance was debt-fueled. Oh, and the felon went all Socialist by handing out $tens of billions to US Farmers after he ruined their market by putting tariffs on Chinese goods, as the Chinese retaliated by shifting ag sourcing to Brazil and other SA nations. The stock market---at an all time high under Biden-Harris---has always done better under Dem Administrations than Repub. Also, not a single Republican Administration since the (R) founding has avoided starting a Recession. Not a single (R) POTUS since even when they were real Republicans, and not a fanatic cult like now. Bush left Obama the worst crisis since the Great Depression, and the felon took Obama's growth and 4.8% UE and left Biden-Harris a Recession and 6.8% UE. I understand the last few years have been difficult for Maga types, as few have the kind of marketable skills required in the modern economy, but for those with skills and talents, the last 4 years have been better than ever. Note the Red States than lean toward the pie-in-the-sky lies of the felon: most all are net takers from the Federal Govt, vs net givers in Blue States like CA, NY, NJ, MA. The largest 'employer' in Red States like KY, WV and TN is Social Security Disability Insurance. If not for the Dem Blue States, Magastan would make the economy of Venezuela look like an economic juggernaut. I suspect that if somehow the felon wins, the economy and USD will tumble, and Blue States that carry their own weight might even secede. I could see something similar to West Pakistan and East Pakistan after Partition in India post-WWII, with CA/OR/WA in the west and NJ/NY/New England in the east seceding and forming independent nations. Poor Illinois, stuck in the middle of abject failure that is magastan!

If your uncle showed up at a family gathering and spent 12 minutes talking about Arnold Palmer's junk, you would 1) get the kids out of the room, 2) check to see if he has taken his meds, 3) maybe just end the family gathering and go home. His goobers, however, love that sort of thing in their candidate for the President of the United States of America, the man with the nuclear codes that can launch upwards of 7800 warheads via missiles, bombers and submarines, the person who represents the US' face to the rest of the world. One poster in another thread praised the felon and his Palmer 3-wood talk as funny and 'blue'. Oddly, on actually significant issues like healthcare, the felon---after 9 years claiming 'within two weeks'--has merely a 'concept of a plan', but instead of moving from concept to actual plan, he prefers to devote his thoughts to Palmer's junk---and that gets his cult's votes. Go figure. I guess many also like the idea of 'military tribunals' for critics, as the felon claimed he would do against former Republican Rep Liz Cheney, because she dared to do her job and follow the oath she took to the US Constitution. Civics and US fundamental ideals are not something which the typical low-IQ, poorly educated felon supporter knows much about. Like their bloated messiah, most are never-served cowards who hope to live vicariously via their cult leader getting back against all the bright and successful people in life who have made his cult members feel as inadequate as the felon himself feels about his own micro junk. Somewhat ironic is that the felon's campaign---in documents provided by Stormy Daniels' current lawyer to MSNBC talking head (and Rhodes Scholar) Rachel Maddow---has tried to pay Daniels to refrain from any further comments about her former short term sex partner and his microjunk, but the candidate himself can spend 12 minutes of one of his last campaign. speeches discussing Arnold Palmer's junk. Go back to a simpler, gentler, saner time---such as 2014---when the Presidential nominee of a major political Party did not talk of holding military tribunals for critics, or say the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs should be executed for disloyalty---not to the US Constitution, but to the President, or call critics and political opponents 'the enemy within', or discuss the size of the appendages of sports stars. That used to be America, but it's been sullied and debased by one man and his cult of low-life losers. No doubt our now peripatetic truck driver and, well, not the brightest bulb, will justify and rationalize all of the felon's rants, bizarre twists and 'weaving', unable to see that his love muffin is batshoot crazy and a threat to everything decent people (aka 'suckers and losers') spent the last 250 years fighting to defend. It's been stated before, but never better than what H. L. Mencken said way back in 1920: "On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron." What Mencken left out was that the moron would also be a vindictive dictator wannabe, who is quite likely a psychopath (traits of a psychopath: a charm that fools the vulnerable, lies as easily as one breathes, thinks rules apply to others, but not self, feels no guilt, has no empathy).

Actually, there is a thread on the Forum noting the felon's "Palmer Envy". Twelve minutes of his rant devoted to something heretofore no one ever knew, much less thought about. Stormy told us why the felon might be so obsessed. I guess the guy with the tiny mushroom attracts others so limited by the impish Universe, just as he collects all the Incels, QAnons, racists, misogynists, Neo Nazis, white supremacists, and those with IQs a std dev or two left of the mean on the IQ Bell Curve. Anyway, given your own physicality, or lack thereof, you're among 'friends' in the cult of the penis-ly impaired. No doubt the felon's next grift will be some sort of concave mirror to distort reality for the ungifted.

Can you imagine the outrage...no doubt with Fox (Comedy Channel?) news running "BREAKING NEWS"....if Harris went into PA and spoke of Jayne Mansfield, born in PA, saying: "What a rack she had!" The felon has dropped the bar so low that no crime, no bizarre 'weaving', no lie, no claims of arresting political opponents and critics and having them face a military tribunal (e.g., Liz Cheney), removing broadcast licenses of major networks for being critical of the petulant child (CBS AND ABC), move the needle on him. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I don't think the size of Palmer's junk is an important kitchen table issue two weeks before the election. I suspect the felon, who was described by Stormy as "Not freakishly small, but well below average" is revealing through his dementia/dis-inhibition, his own "shortcomings" and insecurity over such a little thing.

The guy spent a good deal of his latest bizarre campaign rally talking about the size of the male appendage of the late golfer Arnold Palmer. I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that the size of Palmer's chimbo is unlikely to be a "kitchen table" issue important to most Americans. I don't know the mindset of the average maga cult member, but as little respect as I have for them, I still do not think Arnold Palmer's length and girth are preeminent in their minds. Now I do understand why, even if whatever tales the felon was trying to quote about how Palmer was hung are apocryphal, I can guess why such things would resonate with the felon, given what Stormy said ("not quite freakishly small, but well below average"), but such things are probably not swing voter issues.

Harvard or Stanford degree? (Both, here) I voted for Harris. I would be happy to compare degrees and GPAs with you, or sit down to a controlled IQ test. Heck, I'll even spot you 20 points on the IQ test. Okay, I'll spot you 50 points. Might as well be fair.

Goodness! Is there any Kool-Aid left in the barrel? US GDP growth under Biden since 2020 is three times greater than the average G7 nation. The US' poorest State---Mississippi---has average income higher than the average income in the UK, Canada or Germany. US stocks are at at all time high. Infrastructure rebuilding is not a week that never comes, like under the felon, but a Bill passed in a bipartisan manner and now fixing roads, bridges, commo, airports, etc. The first chip plants on US soil in decades are being built under Biden. More Americans are employed today than ever, while the previous guy was the first President since Herbert Hoover to leave office with fewer Americans working than when he took office. Crime is down under Biden. Example: a medium sized city---Boston---suffered 2 murders only in the first 6 months of 2024. Your graph has the headings in error. Repubs want to control women's bodies, which hardly suggests 'freedom'. It was the felon (under indictment for his actions) that attempted to subvert free and fair elections. Is "real journalism" Fox, which lost a case and had to pay almost $800,000,000 for defamation and lying about voter fraud and voting machines? "Ethical judiciary"....do you mean like Clarence Thomas? Justice Alito? Free enterprise...note the US GDP figures, which under Biden have been much better than under the last guy. As for Moral Standards, I have to assume that is meant to be a joke. If Harris loses, it will be impossible for the US economy to sustain the same level of growth as has occurred under Biden-Harris. The crazy tariffs the (R) candidate has in mind will cause massive inflation, even worse than when he ran up a 41% increase in total US National Debt vs the first 240 years of the nation. Of course, his 'concept of a plan' is probably----many people are saying---the best anyone has ever seen. LOL.

Obviously if the felon wins, it proves Americans are not only morons, but they want to hurt themselves. Look at reality. Note a few things mentioned in the Economist magazine. ---US GDP growth since 2020 is 3 times the average of other G7 countries. ---The poorest State in the US---Mississippi---has a higher average income than the citizens of Canada, the UK, and Germany. ---The stock market closed the week at an all time high. Now if you want 200% tariffs and fascism (just listen to what the felon and his buddies like Flynn...neither is kidding about 'military tribunals' of critics), then the felon is your guy. If you like freedom and the ideals upon which the US was founded, you'll vote Harris. If you like fascism, plus want to shoot yourself in the foot, while your foot is in your mouth, and your head is up your arse, you'll vote the felon.

Sorry, OP, there's still more to come....but there is an expiration date. In the next week or two the felon will begin to pound the table on the fake issues of voter fraud and 'rigged election', whining like the petulant and entitled child he is and trying to fire up what remains of his cult. He is cancelling events now, so he will be less visible into November, but you can search YouTube for his Greatest Hits, such as Hannibal Lecter, sharks circling a sinking electric boat, windmills causing cancer, Harris "banning cows", and his famous 20 minutes of swaying to music, or exhibiting the 2024 version of The Jerk (a 60's dance), albeit with the felon's bordering on x-rated. One thing that might save you....the guy has no money---schlepping sneakers, Chinese-made Bibles and watches, "commemorative coins", crypto, etc. suggest his pockets are empty---so his frivolous post-loss election challenges might not happen because not even Elon Musk is going to pay legal bills for a 78-year old, cognitively impaired old man, whose 2020 challenges gave him a 0-59-1 record. Of course he will call his goobers to DC again on the day VP Harris will certify the results of her own victory, but this time the sitting President won't just watch the insurrection attempt on TV, but he'll call out the National Guard to take on the terrorists and crush them. After that, the only news of the guy is likely to be reporting on his various trials, and if/when found guilty, his perp walk off to jail for the remainder of his miserable life.

There’s a former professional wrestler and now actor named Dave Bautista (whom I’ve only heard of now), who made a rather funny and strikingly accurate video of the real effeminate nature of the convicted felon, who happens to be the Republican candidate for President. Alpha Male the felon is not. Bill Maher has long called the felon a “whiny little b-word”, and even a casual glance at the felon’s social media accounts proves Maher is spot on. Males who view the felon as some actual tough guy and Alpha role model obviously are down a few quarts of testosterone, and maybe it’s time they found another role model. Even Pee Wee Herman would be a quantum leap closer to true Alpha-ness. It's not surprising the felon owns such demographics as Incels, the poorly educated, QAnons….not to mention misogynists (who fear women because the Universe impishly left them ‘shortchanged’ like the felon, according to Stormy), racists, and white supremacists (who try to valor steal off actually successful people who just happen to have skin of a similar shade....well, at least without the felon's probably soon-to-be-grifted Mango Orange facial creme). Anyway, here’s the video made by Bautista, which debuted on Jimmy Kimmel Live.

Traditional values? ---serial philandering ---pathological lying ---corrupt business practices ---charity fraud ---misogyny ---self-aggrandizement ---vindictiveness and retribution As for crime, it is down under Biden, especially capital crime such as murder. Of course the felon himself is doing his level best to spike crime figures, but it seems overall, criminal behavior outside of the felon is down. Oh, and pray tell how the felon will get prices down? Tariffs of 200% To use a Bill Maher meme of "I don't know it for a fact; I just know it's true", I would bet the average felonista has an IQ 20 points below the US average. The felon owns those who lost the Birth Lottery. A stunning statistic from 2016 showed just who supports him: he won 85% of all US Counties in 2016, to HRC's 15%. His 85% of all Counties represent 38% of US GDP, while HRC's mere 15% represent 62% of US GDP. Do the math and that says areas that voted HRC are 9.25x more productive than areas he won. If the US was merely magastan, it's economy would make Venezuela look like an economic juggernaut. Without the Blue States, the Red States would go all Cormac McCarthy hellish dystopian.

Oh my! That's some next level conspiracy moonbat-ology there, fella. (Unless you mean the Culinary Institute of America.)

I guess it depends on one's personal interests. Personally, I would never watch a superhero movie, and don't understand why adult males are their main audience. While I'm also a dyed-in-the-wool lib, what are called 'chick flicks' bore me to tears. That being said, and factoring in my personal interests, I enjoyed Oppenheimer, though not the first time I watched it. Second time was much more enjoyable. There is a scene, perhaps using a little poetic license, where Oppenheimer stands with Edward Teller, after the success of Trinity, watching the two bombs loaded onto a truck and driving off to eventually be sent to Japan. The scene is minimalistic...just two people, one truck heading down a winding and bare dirt road, carrying two small bombs, with the viewer knowing full well what will happen. I remembered a quote from Freeman Dyson about the Manhattan Project: "The technical arrogance that overcomes people, when they see what they can do with their minds." (I'm making no political statement here, just describing a scene that culminated from the greatest collection of human intellect in one place at one time since Oldavai Gorge.) In a totally different sphere I enjoyed The Big Short, and a more serious take on the 2008 Financial Crisis, Margin Call. Great acting in both, but in Margin Call the actual flavor of working in a Wall Street trading room is portrayed to perfection, as is the callous and Machiavellian nature of management in WS firms. Margin Call stars Paul Bettany, Stanley Tucci, Kevin Spacey, Jeremy Irons, Demi Moore, Simon Baker and others. Bettany and Irons slay their roles. Finally, an old, late acquaintance penned a trilogy of books, the first was made into a film starring Jennifer Lawrence and Joel Edgerton...Red Sparrow. Very accurate portrayal of espionage work in denied areas, such as Russia.

Short people also have bad genes. Should we deport them? I guess some already deported themselves and now live in Thailand. Good thing I take my own air from a higher altitude, above the shorty riffraff.

In an interview of Fox (Comedy Channel?) on Sunday, discussing political opponents and critics, the felon said he would 'use the National Guard---and the military if necessary---to round them up'. That would seem---to rational people---to be the textbook definition of fascist. The famous Maya Angelou quote comes to mind. If there is a silver lining in that cloud, it is that all the felonistas in Thailand, seeing the US will have become the fascist utopia they dream of, likely will head back home and stop sullying the good name of Thailand. The felon vs the prosecutor is not about policy differences; it is literally about fascism vs freedom. Every actual patriot who served, who went into harm's way on behalf of the US (you know, us 'suckers and losers'), knows this reality. Goobers and felonistas do not.

Wow, so much virtue signaling in one thread! No doubt there’s a special place somewhere up there in a floating celestial country club ready to welcome all those pure-of-mind-and-body types visiting this thread. And who knew there were so many guys who came to Thailand as single men just for the temples! Pay attention TAT; you’ve got your draw. Wats and wats of them! As a lad back home, I did a good bit of dallying with the fairer sex. At university, working as a lifeguard at a large ocean beach in uni summers, and then when I entered the workforce, I certainly had more than my fair share of lovelies. I guess that is largely okay, save for among those who subscribe to certain superstitions about a final accounting for one’s life and dallying when one cannot pretend it’s love and intended on procreation. Since they were ‘my people’ and on home turf, I guess that’s respectable, like a Thai politician with a mia noi and a uni student on the side. Of course, there were a few visiting foreign students, too, whom I experienced back home…did I commit an infraction with the Danes and Israelis and French? If so, mea culpa. I didn’t have a rule book. I even went across racial lines. Bad boy! On my visits to Thailand, I guess I brought my complete lack of sanctimonious Kristian morality with me, perhaps painfully unaware that one accumulates bonus points in life for abstaining from pleasures of the flesh. I guess I’ll have no points to cash in when I take my last breath. Woe is me! What will I do in the box for all eternity! Now my experience---which seems to differ markedly from many here---is that it is as easy to experience carnal joy in Thailand as it was back home. Who knew people might be the same worldwide! Who knew people far and wide like to dally and release oxytocin! Where I’m still puzzled is the difference between women who will accompany me back to my condo, or me to theirs, on a first date, vs women who expect to receive compensation for doing the same. Horny is okay, but capitalism is bad? The difference is probably too subtle for this obtuse guy. And is 2nd or 3rd date better and acceptable? Since “love” is chemical based and largely undefinable, who’s to say when we dally out of love, and thus pass the border into the zone of moral rectitude, vs instinctual rutting? Experts, self-proclaimed or otherwise, please chime in!!!!! Now I’ve not settled down with a Thai woman, despite the fact I have now chosen to live here and operate a business. If I ever decide to settle down, I really could not care less what the woman’s past is….brain surgeon, 7-11 cashier, or bargirl. I’m not a virgin, so it would be hypocritical of me to expect she should be. Anyway, I remember when I dallied with a virgin or two back when I first began to play the game of life, and it wasn’t exactly breathtaking and romantically memorable. Also, I know full well I was born lucky, and never walked in her flip flops. I cannot judge what she has done nor why, I can only take a chance on what she will be, and how she will behave from the point we commit solely to each other. I really don’t think her past has any bearing on how she will behave in the future. Marriages of all types are hurt by infidelity, no matter her profession...lawyer or demimondaine. I’m also confident enough in my own masculinity that I wouldn’t worry if some previous partner provided her more pleasure. I would just do my job in the best way I know how, and ideally, we’ll both enjoy. Anyway, you do you...or is that onanism?

I stand corrected. No doubt most people smoke weed purely for its enchanting flavor and bewitching fragrance. Now kale and Brussels Sprouts, I might stick with nobody consumes those for the taste. As for alcohol, go get yourself a bottle of the Elio Altare Barolo in my image above. Now THAT's enchanting! And no need to get a buzz, something I do not enjoy no matter what caused it. As a high school student I tried weed a few times. Never found the high appealing, nor the comments of the high particularly profound. I also noticed a statistically significant link between weed smoking and consumption of Nacho Cheese Doritos. As my friends continued to use it, I was the guy who passed the joint from one to another (but did scoff the occasional Dorito). I'm sure it is purely anecdotal and no doubt an outlier, but of my group in HS, two of us refrained from weed. One became a successful surgeon, I retired young after a (second) career as a hedge fund manager, and my other friends, who became regular pot smokers, worked odd jobs in gas stations, as truck drivers, paint store salesmen, car rental officers, and similar jobs. It seems the weed might have sapped them of ambition and using what were once considered elite intellects (though I know users here are all wildly successful multi billionaires, Nobel Laureates, crypto magnates, Silicon Valley moguls, etc.). To each his or her own. I accept my wine enjoyment is a vice my body would be better without, but it gives me pleasure while passing from cradle to grave. Others are welcome to enjoy their THC buzz. We all end up as dust anyway, no matter how we get our kicks.

We all get one body, and we each decide how we want to care for it or abuse it. Some drink to excess. Some smoke cigarettes. Some eat way too much. Some avoid any form of exercise that would keep them fit. Some smoke weed. Some get tattoos. If I have a vice, it is wine and beer. A cold beer after a hot day tastes delightful. A nice wine with a meal, especially if shared with my girlfriend or friends, is one of my great pleasures. I do not like weed, and do not like to be high, whether on drugs or booze. I'm quite fit from the gym, choosing low body fat and muscular definition over a sweet tooth. I find tattoos both a fad and unsightly, noisy even, but to each his or her own. I know 'no booze' is best, but my choice and my body means I will enjoy the pleasures of a good wine and suffer the consequences if there are any. What is life without at least one vice? Smoking weed or eating edibles purely to get a buzz is not something that appeals to me in any way. People like me drink wine and beer because we enjoy the taste. Nobody smokes weed purely because they like the flavor. So there's your answer from one poster, OP. Attached is a photo of some recently enjoyed wines. One is rather pricey, one quite modest, and two mid-priced. All are delightful. Life is too short to drink bad wine, and to the best of my knowledge, money is useless once one is in the box or the urn. Cheers!

Guys with small chimbos tend toward misogyny and some silly fantasy of their inherent superiority. Recalling the insight Stormy gave us re the candidate who is a convicted felon ("Not quite freakishly small, but well below average"), it's no wonder he is so intimidated by women, especially women of color. It is patently obvious VP Harris is the far more intelligent of the two. Too late for the misogynists to edit their posts here, so it will be clear for all eternity who got shortchanged by an economical and sometimes impish Universe.

I agree the truth hurts sometimes.... Why does Fox have the highest viewership? Because it is specifically geared toward those who sit left of the mean on the IQ Bell Curve. You might still be able to find the original Business Plan of Roger Ailes on the web. His argument was that most MSM was too intellectual for those with lower IQs, but a network aimed at the dumbos could attract a sizeable audience. He also argued that while such people tend to be less successful and have less discretionary income, they represent an attractive demographic in their totality. So boasting Fox has such high viewership just reminds people that many folks sit left of the mean on the IQ Bell Curve.

Oh, shucks! There goes my KKK Nostalgia Tour (Kabul, Khost, Kandahar).

Personally, I rule out listening to any deity, if he had 33 years to say owning other human beings is bad, but instead went off on tangents about gambling in church or spent his time doing parlor tricks with loaves of bread and fish. Penn and Teller can top whatever tricks that guy did. If slavery is part of some Master Plan, maybe it's time for Plan B? When I glance though what are considered by their various cults 'holy books', and I see I am more moral than anybody's deity, I realize the bar for deity is set really really low. Good thing the US Founders went out of their way to separate superstition from State. By the way, "morality" emerges from civilization, not any deity's admonitions. I don't think Moses came down the mountain with his stone tablets and said, "Bad news, guys. No more killin' and stealin'." Deities are only good for useless and superfluous rules, like demanding you worship them, thank them for everything, give them at least one day a week, or where you can or cannot put your male appendage. Also, why all the fuss and fanfare about virgins, as many faiths champion them. I think too many guys are worried 'she' might know you aren't packing anything impressive down there. Frankly, when I was just entering the mating game as a teen, I remember what engaging with a virgin was like, and I would not want to experience that again. Give me a woman who knows what she likes and how best to achieve it. Keep your own handmaiden barefoot and pregnant if you want, but in 2024 society has to be open to utilizing all of its resources, no matter what chromosome combo they have nor how genes express themselves in appearance.

You have to understand the typical maga is a loser. They need excuses for their failure in life, and conspiracies are an easy way to absolve themselves of any responsibility. The felon and people of his ilk have always known about the weaknesses of the forlorn, and they know how to exploit it. They give their cult exactly what the losers want to hear. EVERYTHING is always another's fault, never their own. Give him a chance, and he'll clear the decks and it will be biscuits and gravy into some eternal golden future. The felon himself follows his own rule: nothing bad is ever his fault, and anything good is always to his credit. With a certain segment of birth lottery losers, that is a recipe for success. I don't think he has enough disciples this time to win, as people with marketable skills have done quite well under Biden-Harris. Also, so outlandish are some of the conspiracies becoming, that those in the fever swamp only knee deep are slowly walking out.

You don't give matches to a baby, a bottle of Jack Daniels to a recovering drunk, nor facts to any goober who uses the term "Deep State". Those who use that term broadcast to the world that they are a loser and have never even gotten a whiff of power or financial success. Most are also QAnons, believe in 10' shape-shifting lizard people from the rogue planet Nibiru, are 911-Truthers, Lunar-tics, and probably even think Hugo Chavez rose from the dead, wrote special code that he uploaded to an Italian satellite that subsequently altered Dominion voting machines in 2020 (per the felon's crack lawyer Sidney Powell). Just say..."I respect your opinion, no matter how moonbat-ish it is" and then hand them some animal crackers (which in Springfield, Ohio no doubt constitutes 'pet eating').

The felon has given new meaning to the term "Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory". The reason this indictment was released is BECAUSE the felon got his lackey Supreme Court to broaden the concept of immunity for a POTUS for official acts. Judge Chutkin released it, because after Smith edited it in light of the SC ruling, all that is left is criminal behavior that absolutely is not an "official act". Had the case not been appealed to the SC, it is unlikely this ever would have been released until trial. Delay delay and delay, plus the SC appeal is the reason it is coming out now, 30-odd days before the election. The felon is the witch, if there even is one in this hunt. It is interesting that so serious were the attacks the felon made against his VP Pence that the Secret Service warned the Pence people that security had to be increased specifically because of the felon's Tweets and public statements threatening and disparaging VP Pence. As noted in the indictment, when the felon was enjoying the insurrection on TV, and was told the VP's life was in danger, a person in the room with the felon stated under oath and penalty of perjury that POTUS said "So what". Also, the pointlessly redacted names of his "daughter" and "son-in-law" are part of a passage where the felon told the two, "It doesn't matter if you win or lose; you still have to fight like hell". The indictment is quite damning, and since the witnesses were 1) members of his own Administration, and 2) under oath and thus under penalty of perjury, it carries a lot of weight. The guy is toast.