DonniePeverley

Why didnt she pay ?

Hat Yai. I thought i might get a new experience there. But the city is dull beyond belief. Evening time you had boat loads of malaysians turning up to get cheap massages. What on earth was that about ?

Over on the pattaya addict forums many are suggesting the new wave of STD's women are catching are coming from India. I am aware there has been investment in Pattaya from indian business men to cater for Indians, but they've basically taken over a city. And if you continue to just let them enter without restrictions it won't stop at Pattaya.

Zero shame. You can clearly hear them bargaining too .... 6 guys pressuring one lady to give them a discount. Total 3000 for 6 guys (thats the final price to include everyone). It's sleazy and disgraceful. The prostitute in general will agree as it's money, and she may not get any more transactions that day. Imagine being the 6th guy though, or the guy that picks her up after she returns to the streets after being with them. Christ.

The resentment comes from the sheer volume of numbers. Tourism spend is actually down, despite last years massive number of arrivals (almost record breaking). One or two credit card companies have said spend was up, but that doesn't give an overall figure. Spending with inflation will always look rosier. Thailand also used to gain 2000 Baht from issuing visas to Indians. They removed that. Try working out 2 million times 2000 baht. That's a big hole to fill. The issue if you allow in so many cheap tourists, whilst you may think it looks good, you then see the knock on effects - with many looking to work, over stay, but crucially you cannot get past the low spend and behaviour. You are changing the landscape. Malaysia recently reversed it's own visa policy for Indians, taking a more strict approach after many over stayed and began to work.

Pattaya has now become India.

Opening up visa free to Indians was a long term error that may rank up there as one of the most errornous decisions in the history of Thailand. That one stroke will change the dynamic and look of Thailand for years. An absolute abhorent decision that will have knock on effects for years. The visitors that come to Thailand are extreme low spenders on general, yet their massive numbers, behaviours, will turn away other tourists. India's GDP per person is infinate lower than Thailands too. Vietnam has the rite model. Whilst they want Indian visitors, they need control. So they make sure Indians get a visa, and have accomodation booked in their name. In Thailand it's a free for all, with indian men sleeping 10-15 to a room. On a side issue i have never seen hornier men than indians. Absolutely can't believe it.

If it's being ran by criminal enterprises then yes it's dangerous.

Thailand is exporting alot of Russian oil i believe rite? That would be rough on them.

Price has barely dropped though, so it's not being passed on. Secondly, these stimulus idea from the previous PM Sretta, including removing visa fees that were being collected from Chinese and Indian visitors especially, was a big massive loss of income.

Another British guy smuggling cannabis out of Thailand. This is out of control now. The absolute garbage reputation Thailand is taking with international headlines like this is out of control. This was once a proud country that the world respected for it's hard stance on drugs. It's honestly becoming the gutter with all the headlines. Surely they need to be better detection at their home airports. Second, they really need to seriously look again at the marijuana laws bought in. Already i know many chinese tourists, families, decent folk looking to other places like Vietnam as they don't like whats going in Thailand.

Yes but the quanity is so massive that it would clearly show on a machine.

Or maybe turning a blind eye, as it's not their problem if they're buying it and taking it out of the country.

How is this volume not spotted on leaving Thailand ? Happening too many times now. It's been clearly obvious now there is an element from the UK that is importing huge quantities back.

I've noticed a fair few British tiktokers have vanished from Thailand. It was clear what was going on come to think of it.

He's a white guy .... so i am guessing the media saying mental health ? The usual lot and racists British guys in Pattaya were desperate for this to be a Muslim. Sad .

Anything to stop Russian takeover of Phuket

Why not ?

It's expensive to set up. Will the cheap chav Brits, cheap indians, tour groups from China really be lining up for this ?

Why the defensive responses? I kept an eye on it last year as i was thinking of renting there, and it was up there as one of the most polluted cities for a few months.

I should stress it tops the list for a month or two.

Things you have to remember : 1) If you pay her no money, would she move on? These girls aren't university educated, low income, so having someone who can take care of them is important to them as much as physical attraction is to you. 2) I think deep down you know if you do not provide for her, she will move on. 3) You have to be cautious that this 'investment' won't mean she will stay faithful. She may well have others on the go, and any could pop up just like you. And trust me when you are dishing that kind of money, you will demand loyalty and it will mess you up a fair bit with the trust. 4) I would take no notice of the 'she is being nice, she never asked much before, etc' - even the biggest scamming girls will play the long game like this. I say keep going, but keep your guard. Have your fun, but knowing full well this may not last forever, especially if it is not built on love, and as much as you suspect if you do not pay the 30k she will end it.

India is one place that is very dangerous for women. Literally terrifying if you are a single women there and going around. There is some sort of animalistic pray that men have towards women there. Unfortunately Thialand has opened up visa free to many of these individuals who continue to behave this way. Not all, but some.

They were no where near walking street or any of the red light district. Not everything in Chon Buri is walking street, so don't be one of those. There is some very good international schools, top housing there too. But the harassment from seedy tourists around Pattaya, who view any women walking as a prostitute is an issue.

The worlds most polluted city does strike fear into you though. Do school not give this period any time off? Instead of during the summer?